If anyone still has interest (NHL season)

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Well the "my penis is bigger than your penis" pissing match between the NHL and Players Association (abbreviated ASS from now on) has taken a short term turn for the good, but in my opinion a long term turn toward armageddon. It looks like from everyting I am hearing that the NHL is willing to back down even further from what they are already conceding. Ecklunds blog reports that there will be a split deal among the NHL and ASS, his story makes sense, but I am hearing something completely different. It would appear at this point the NHL (despite what is said in the media) wants a season bad enough they are willing to gamble the games very future for it. I am to the point where I prefer the season is cancelled and the players have to come back for less next season, but it's just not gonna end that way. The fans will suffer through the first part of the week before an announcement is made, but it looks at this point as season is a heavy favorite over no season.
 

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To be honest, I don't miss it one bit.

I didn't miss baseball when they where gone, and football took some getting used to, but that didn't really bother me after a while, either.

I think most people watch sports, "because it is there".
 

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yyz said:
To be honest, I don't miss it one bit.

I didn't miss baseball when they where gone, and football took some getting used to, but that didn't really bother me after a while, either.

I think most people watch sports, "because it is there".
I feel exactly the same way. I didn't even want baseball to come back 10 years ago. I hope NHL goes away, and if the NBA acts up - I wish them gone as well.

Football would be tough, I admit - but I'd let them go too if they behave like this.
 

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I still have this twisted thought in my head that NHL will be played this season, personally hope that not.

local team HIFK ( see avatar ) has six nhl players and transfer windows are closed allready for this season. Start of NHL would pretty much fawk up this season, we would loose goalie Vokoun, defence men Zidlicky and Lydman, forwards Jokin, Ruutu and Pirjet?. All except Vokoun are former IFK players, that's why they got deal here.

And about missing NHL ? To me it's not a fan thing that much, even i support Red Wings, it's more like a habit that is easy to kick off. Even local hockey is more important.

But from a betting view, i think that NHL hockey is still best sport to bet on.
 

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no NHL......Canadians in mourning!

be lucky if NHL comes back next season!
 

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I LOVE IT NO HOCKEY THE ONLY PEOPLE HURT BY THIS ARE THE DENTIST'S UP IN CANADA WHO REPLACE THE TEETH OF THESE MORONS.WHY DONT YOU HERRING CHOKERS GO OUT AND MAKE SURE YOUR OUTHOUSE DOESNT FREEZE UP IT SUCKS PISSING INTO A BUCKET OF FROZEN ICE :mj07: IT MUST SUCK BEING CANADIEN AND THE ONLY THING YOU HAVE IN YOUR SH-T LIVES IS A HOCKEY GAME.SORRY SUCKERS NO HOCKEY FOR YOU

I WONDER HOW MANY HARVARD GRADS ARE THINKING ABOUT THE HOCKEY SEASON WAKE UP YOU IDIOTS HOCKEY IS DONE IT ISNT EVEN THE # 4 SPORTS HERE IN AMERICA ANYMORE IT WAS REPLACED BY BEACH VOLLEYBALL WOMENS OF COURSE
 

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kickserv, season is not yet cancelled and negotiatons will go on tomorrow and tuesday should be the final ddd. maybe.
 

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I have to say I am a bit surprised that no deal has been reached, I honestly thought both sides would come to their senses and work out SOMETHING, but it is apparant I undersetimed the stupidity of both sides. I am now about 75/25 that they are gonna cancell the season, and I honestly didn't think they had it in them. Congrtulations boys for being bigger assholes than anyone thought possible. I think this should go into Beantownjim's thread about alternative Grammy awards and the NHL and NHLPA should be given the Axl Rose award for tossing away more than they will ever get a sniff of again. Way to go idiots, nothing like millionairs and billionairs fighting over how to split up the working mans 80 bucks.
 

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right now listening hockey news and reading blogs and forums, no one knows. i still think that they will play short season because that way next season would be ready to play when it is supposed to start. if season is cancelled this starts again september.

that is the only reason i think season would be played. from a sports view short season is so BS as can be.
 

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I mean holy crap how many "deadlines" can be set? This is so ridiculous I'm tired of hearing about this....oh a new deadline....then another, then another. So retarded. The NHL and PAssoc are all a bunch of assholes.
 

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Great article IMO:


NHL's blame game

By Dan Wetzel
February 14, 2005




The fact that it has seemed inevitable the NHL would lose the entire season over its labor impasse should in no way lessen the outrage, or temper the anger, now that the deed apparently is about to happen.

According to reports, there will officially be no hockey this season after a Tuesday announcement ? no Stanley Cup, no overtime heart stoppers, no Game 7s ? and the list of guilty parties is as long as it is damning.

It starts with commissioner Gary Bettman, the most hapless, hopeless executive in sports, who in 13 years in charge of the NHL has succeeded in little more than driving the once-proud league right into the grave.

It moves onto a collection of owners who care little about the game, about the fans, about the tradition ? franchise killers such as Bill Wirtz in Chicago who care only about bottom line.

They (and their stooge Bettman) pursued reckless expansion for the sake of franchise fees, never taking time to realize it was a recipe for disaster. They (and their stooge Bettman) priced out families in pursuit of corporations. They (and their stooge Bettman) showed an utter lack of understanding for the sport, allowing neutral-zone traps, oversized goalie equipment and bear-hug defenses to suck the excitement out of the rink.

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And it must include the players, who can't be faulted for taking over-valued contracts from naive owners who spent like drunken sailors, but now have to wake up and realize the gravy train is over and a salary cap is necessary.

"I feel bad for the people who love hockey," said Adam Sandler, the movie star who loves hockey, on Friday. "I hope it gets rocking again as soon as possible."

Sandler was at the Super Bowl promoting a football movie ? "The Longest Yard" ? with co-star Chris Rock, who was also asked about the hockey disaster.

"All of Harlem is in tears," Rock deadpanned. "I remember growing up playing pick-up hockey games. ? My dad and I having sticks and pucks. ? It was a magical time."

Funny stuff. Telling, too.

As sports in North America continues to thrive and grow to the point where Hollywood must come to the NFL to promote itself, hockey is little more than a punch line, an obsolete joke years in the making.

The fact is there are millions of people who grew up playing pick-up hockey, attending games with their dad and enjoying the rich history of a sport where the athletes literally walk on water.

You wonder if anyone involved with the NHL remembers any of that.

It surely isn't Bettman, who famously never attended an NHL game before the owners hired him to be the marketing whiz who could make them billions of dollars. One of his first moves as commissioner was to eliminate the traditional names of the conferences and divisions (Campbell, Norris, Adams) and replace them with the generic (Eastern, Southeast).

To Bettman, a name such as Clarence Campbell meant nothing. Thus, he seemed to figure, it was nothing.

We should have known the league was doomed right then.

What the NHL has become the last decade is a clutch-and-grab, over-expanded, rivalry-poor shell of itself. Too many arrogant businessmen looking for a buck (or a tax write-off) were brought into the league in place of sportsmen. Too many franchises were put in any outpost with two Winn-Dixies and the expansion fee, regardless of competitive commitment or business realities.

Since the mid-1990s, the NHL's game plan has been simple. The old fans ? the core fans and the rock of the league for nearly a century ? no longer mattered as the league embarked on the pipe-dream pursuit of new consumers, new pocketbooks and new corporate cash.

The result was Armageddon.

In trying to get bigger, the league got smaller. In trying to draw in the new, the league turned away the old.

By listening to accountants and lawyers and marketing gurus, the NHL essentially no longer exists.

A league that survived wars, cultural changes and Don Cherry's wardrobe is now dead because of the modern meddling of too many owners, executives and agents who never understood, let alone respected, its soul.

There will be no National Hockey League this year.

No Stanley Cup. No overtime heart stoppers. No Game 7s.

A great sport has turned into a Chris Rock joke while the suits continue to point their manicured fingers of blame at each other.

Dan Wetzel is Yahoo! Sports' national columnist. Send him a question or comment for potential use in a future column or webcast.
 

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it was about Bettman to have press conference tonight at sometime, as i said not confirmed information.
 

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Can't say I have seen/heard of that, I think they will wait till tomorrow to actually announce anything. Last solid info I got was the teams were still pretty far apart on the salary cap limit, REAL FAR apart. If that was the final issue then I would think they get a deal done tonight, stay tuned.....
 

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what i have heard is that they still have $12m differnece in cap, players offer 52 and owners 40 . if that is the only difference there will be a season. more than half of the teams are under $40m in their salaries that's why i don't see why cap couldn't be around 48. big teams need quite a lot adjustment to get to 40 from around $70m.... and there must be some pace for coming years too.

just from mojo radio : the sides will meet today
 
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