Nuclear Weapons

Master Capper

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I was just wondering if anyone knows is there some type of litmus test that a country must pass to make it acceptable to have nuclear weapons? I was wondering this since the world seems oppossed to Iran restarting their nuclear energy program (although I believe they are more than likely also using this program to attempt to build a nuclear weapon), but what is the criteria that makes it unacceptable for Iran to arm itself whereas countries such as India and Pakistan are allowed to arm themselves with nuclear weapons and I think we would all agree that neither of those countries are stable and both have a high tension level amongst each other. My understanding is that there are eight countries that have nuclear capabilities: USA, UK, Russia, India, Pakistan, China, Israel and France, but in researching the subject I have not been able to find why it is acceptable for these countries to have nuclear arms.
 

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Weren't we the ones helping Saddam out during thier scrimmage against Iran?

The only standard would appear to be our current image of the country requesting nukes.....

I'm sure Pakistan and India will be peaceful countries for milleniums and no dictators will ever take those countries over.... :mj07:
 

gardenweasel

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we also helped stalin during ww2.....we saw him as the lesser of two evils.....

the same with saddam and iran...back in THE CARTER years....and the hostge issue days...

unless you are nostradamus...or miss cleo...you have no way of knowing that allies will remain allies......

look at the french....our enemies as surely as the nose on your face...and the japanese...our true allies...

that old saw is a huge crock of shit...if you use your head...

as the leader of the free world....the litmus test is that the middle east is the most crucial and volatile region in the world....in regards to economic issues....and world security issues....you`d be irresponsible...as the leader of the free world.........to take a laisez faire attitude regarding the region.....

if master capper`s theory were correct.....then it`s very possible that the world would look much differently than it does right now...

because,israel would not have bombed saddam`s nuclear reactor out of existence in the early 80`s....therefore,saddam would have had nuclear weapons when he invaded kuwait.....

would the world have had the coulumes to remove him from kuwait?...knowing that a nuclear confrontation could ensue?....and if they had still chosen to remove him,would he have sent nukes into israel instead of scuds?.....trying to create an arab/israeli conflict?...which he has vowed to do for 20 years....maybe starting ww3?...and ruining the region for a few decades....

instead of "JUST BURNING" all the oil fields...


or do we allow him to systematically gain control over a third of the world`s oil supply?...all the while using the revenue to become stronger and stronger militarily?.....

of course iran couldn`t stand by while this happened....they`d nuke up....

do you really feel comfortable with the mullahs in iran and saddam having nukes?.....

i`m sure that israel...the only democracy in the reason doesn`t...

we see how n.korea contiues to blackmail the world with the nuclear threat...

even though i have the utmost respect for kim jung il....who reportedly shot 9 holes in one on his first golfing excursion....those people actually believe that shit...that scares me...

thankfully,he`s not located in the crucial middle east...

believing that slitting the throat of someone that mishandles a koran scares me....

believing that 70 virgins await a homicide bomber....that scares me,too...

i`d say that nuclear and biological weapons anywhere near these sweethearts should cause any prudent person to loose sleep....
 

Master Capper

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if master capper`s theory were correct.....then it`s very possible that the world would look much differently than it does right now..

I have no theory, but I was just asking if anyone knew why some countries are allowed to arm themselves and some are not? In particular why are questionable countries like Pakistan and India allowed to have WMD's?
 

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Master Capper said:
if master capper`s theory were correct.....then it`s very possible that the world would look much differently than it does right now..

I have no theory, but I was just asking if anyone knew why some countries are allowed to arm themselves and some are not? In particular why are questionable countries like Pakistan and India allowed to have WMD's?

I believe that all countries, based on human rights and equality principles, should be allowed to possess nuclear weapons. For them not to have nuclear capability is a blatant sign of prejudice. Most likely it is related to racism imposed by the white american of european descent.
Wht will we tell children from less fortunate countries when they find out that they do not have nuclear wepons? It's not right. It's just not right. :rolleyes:

I believe India and Pakistan have had nuclear capability for several years or at least the research for it. I mean, go to any U.S. university and you'll see that most science grad students and Phd's are form India, Pakistan or China :scared . I mean, these guys gotta do something when they get back home since most Convenience stores are fully manned already.
 

SixFive

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I think it's unacceptable for any country who doesn't have nuclear weapons to start a program now. I wouldn't care if nobody but the USA had the nuclear weapons (hard for any American to argue that I would think).

As far as India and Pakistan go, I wouldn't be suprised to see news reports of them blowing each other up in the nuclear sense any time. Not a far stretch since they've been fighting over Kashmir rather violently now for almost 60 years.
 

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Before there ever used again. Show pictures of WW II over and over of the two used in Japan. Might help change there minds of those countries that used them to understand they may never see light of day again. And why do some get them and some don't. There is no law that says anyone can' have them. If there is someone show where that is written. So countries try to talk those still trying to go nuke not to by offering many things. Even Brazil is now rumored to being next on the list.
 

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gardenweasel said:
we also helped stalin during ww2.....we saw him as the lesser of two evils.....

the same with saddam and iran...back in THE CARTER years....and the hostge issue days...

unless you are nostradamus...or miss cleo...you have no way of knowing that allies will remain allies......

look at the french....our enemies as surely as the nose on your face...and the japanese...our true allies...

that old saw is a huge crock of shit...if you use your head...

as the leader of the free world....the litmus test is that the middle east is the most crucial and volatile region in the world....in regards to economic issues....and world security issues....you`d be irresponsible...as the leader of the free world.........to take a laisez faire attitude regarding the region.....

if master capper`s theory were correct.....then it`s very possible that the world would look much differently than it does right now...

because,israel would not have bombed saddam`s nuclear reactor out of existence in the early 80`s....therefore,saddam would have had nuclear weapons when he invaded kuwait.....

would the world have had the coulumes to remove him from kuwait?...knowing that a nuclear confrontation could ensue?....and if they had still chosen to remove him,would he have sent nukes into israel instead of scuds?.....trying to create an arab/israeli conflict?...which he has vowed to do for 20 years....maybe starting ww3?...and ruining the region for a few decades....

instead of "JUST BURNING" all the oil fields...


or do we allow him to systematically gain control over a third of the world`s oil supply?...all the while using the revenue to become stronger and stronger militarily?.....

of course iran couldn`t stand by while this happened....they`d nuke up....

do you really feel comfortable with the mullahs in iran and saddam having nukes?.....

i`m sure that israel...the only democracy in the reason doesn`t...

we see how n.korea contiues to blackmail the world with the nuclear threat...

even though i have the utmost respect for kim jung il....who reportedly shot 9 holes in one on his first golfing excursion....those people actually believe that shit...that scares me...

thankfully,he`s not located in the crucial middle east...

believing that slitting the throat of someone that mishandles a koran scares me....

believing that 70 virgins await a homicide bomber....that scares me,too...

i`d say that nuclear and biological weapons anywhere near these sweethearts should cause any prudent person to loose sleep....


I wouldn't bother bro ...their mentality is obvious by their mere questions. I mean come on really ? If someone needs to explain this simple question it speaks in volumes of what your dealing with here . threads like this I read for pure entertainment purposes. Its as if they our fresh off a spaceship from a galaxy far far away. :mj07: They have 0 knowledge of history are completely clueless when it come to treaty's agreements or government policy's or are own constitution. They just read some stupid ass crap from some left wing rag and repeat the bile. If anyone of them spent a little time on C-span followed our politicians voting records or studied a little bit of the history of mankind they will wake up and become more conservative I will admit I used to be one of these guys till I took the time to disregard the media and look into things that I could see as fact IE: Just watching the bills that go through congress who made the bill who co- sponsored it and listening to our politicians speak in congress this helped me sort out many misleading things the media has spewed . Until they start to investigate on their own from every perspective they will continue to be tools of the left .
 

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Lets all listen to Pale he knows all there is to know. But has forgot to read some books.
 
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