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What about vacations? I think I remember you saying some sportsbooks offer vacations. Vacations should be given to those loyal clients who wager a lot. For example PINNACLE! This sportsbook has taken so much action from me. Be nice to get something in return for putting so much $$$ in play! :) Guess I am greedy. But i never once got a vacation anywhere or heard about it. betcris is nice to offer loyalty pts and I took advantage of it. Try and get Pinny to reward clients! :)
 

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Scott,

No offense but since the wagering limits for mlb are 30k and 20k per NFL game at Pinny, I don't think you are one of their high rollers. I'm sure they have clients making those kind of plays on a daily basis.
 

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Blackman said:
Scott,

No offense but since the wagering limits for mlb are 30k and 20k per NFL game at Pinny, I don't think you are one of their high rollers. I'm sure they have clients making those kind of plays on a daily basis.

I did not say I was a high roller. But I think they should give back to those who put a lot of $$$ in play.

For example.

Put $50,000 in play get this _______

Put $100,000 in play get this _______

Put $150,000 in play get this _______


That is a lot of money being put into play. Be nice if they give back. They can limit it to 1 per person per year or whatever. Keeps those who wager 10k-30k on regular basis from reaping the rewards.

Hell, just make it available for posters from Madjacks. Not everyone on the net! :)
 
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Right, and I'm sure these vacations only go to the high rollers.

Maybe I'm over estimating Pinny put I'm sure putting 50k into a play over a year span is small potatos.

I just imagine that if you can put 30k on a Royals vs Blue Jays game they handle a lot of money on a daily basis.

The fact that they are willing to put all NFL games at -104 pretty much confirms my assumption.
 

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Scott4USC said:
Try and get Pinny to reward clients! :)


they do reward you. Every single day with their juice. that is their reward. Do you think 20k players give a chit about a vacation. its the only book that will take their action and they know they are getting a good deal. its the best book for and away. this isn't a pinnacle is great thread, but to say they don't reward you every day with low juice is wrong. if you save 3 or 4k by playing with them over another book during a football season you can buy your vacation.
 

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I think you are underestimating Pinny. Whenever I put down a $3,000 bet the line moves right away. For example +160 becomes +163 in MLB or in CFB it might move 1pt or go -108 to -120. So if these people putting down 30,000 the line would move a whole bunch. Look at what happens with a 3k bet. What happens with a 30k bet? Pinnys vig is often volatile but the #'s don't move a whole lot. I would think a 30k bet would move #'s. I could be wrong.

The main topic of this thread was what can MJ tell the Sponsors to do for us. US being posters on MJ's. So this would be for members of his site, not the entire betting public using Pinny.

Like I said, make it a 1 time deal or once a year deal. I am just throwing it out there. I don't expect it to happen. Be nice if it did!

This helps Pinny because I personally often take my action to other sportsbooks where I receive bonuses etc. I easily roll it over and pick up extra $200-$1000 from sign up bonuses or reloads. Also gives me room if I lose. Sorta like getting extra units. Pinny I use whenever I get a great line or make a huge wager. But if Pinny offered some type of loyalty rewards, I would prob. play them strictly unless they had line out of whack (which they sometimes do).
 

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BleedDodgerBlue said:
they do reward you. Every single day with their juice. that is their reward. Do you think 20k players give a chit about a vacation. its the only book that will take their action and they know they are getting a good deal. its the best book for and away. this isn't a pinnacle is great thread, but to say they don't reward you every day with low juice is wrong. if you save 3 or 4k by playing with them over another book during a football season you can buy your vacation.

I am not a 20k player and I am trying to get what is best for me. Madjack asked what can his sponsors do for us. I have seen MJ mention vacations before from sportsbooks. I would love it if I could get a free vacation for putting action into play. Worth trying! That is what MJ asked, what can they do for us. Like I said, if Pinny offered that, I prob. would play a lot more there vs spreading out my action. That is just me, not everyone else. If it makes sense for Pinny to do it, they will. If not, oh well. I'll still play there just not all my action.
 

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MadJack said:
that will make you want to signup? that will make you especially happy?

what do you want the sportsbooks to do for you that will make you stay and play?

let's hear it.

let's be serious too. what does it take to get a player and keep them?


I think I answered his question!

BTW it doesn't have to be vacation. Prizes too. I know Betgameday offers it but I don't like their sportsbook. I like getting free stuff so I'll try and get it and take advantage of it.
 
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Scott

of course it would be nice. Who wouldn't take a free vacation? Who doesn't want more?

I think you are mistating their line moves. Pinny is one of the rare books that don't always move on action. I'm sure it has at times, but a 3k bet doesn't necessarily move the lines unless its overnight when no one is around and they usually don't offer much on overnights. I'm sure you've seen adjustments when you lay a couple dimes, but it doesn't always work that way.

Pinny is a group of sharp sports betters that cornered the market in low juice. they lay off bets and have their own opinions. try finding corporate info or ownership records of anyone at pinny. Never gonna happen. It's a group of sharps and a syndicate in their own right. They lay off action and scalp the shit out of other places. It's almost like a middle man. They track who is sharp and in what sports and your 3k bet doesn't dent their bottom line. If they think you are on the right side their moving it, if they don't its staying stagnant. The linesmakers there are sharper than anyone in the world. And they take more action on a regular baseball day than any vegas sportsbook.

Like you said, it would be nice. who wouldn't want more from any book, but what they offer is the best price, no frills and you ALWAYS get paid. Ever hear of a slow pay or no pay from them. NEVER. I've heard of it from every other book. And this isn't a lets blow pinny thread. If other books dropped their juice I'd be more than happy to play there. But, if for some reason pinny collapsed or dissolved or crashed or whatever you call it, you can kiss the offshore industry goodbye.

just my opinion

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Money out as quick as money goes in would be nice. In a real sportsbook I can walk to the window and cash my ticket for money in hand.

I may be alone, but I hate like hell having to wait a day for money that is mine.

Any sportsbook that could do that would get my regular play.

Here's the problem, perks and bonuses don't do it for the daily player, that stuff only attracts the recreational player who is most likely going to donk off his entire deposit no matter if he gets 10% or 1000%, it won't matter, but those are the players the books are looking for.
 

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BDB

Just for $hits and giggles.........

I dunno, maybe an hour ago I put a bet down. $1500 on OLE MISS/Memphis under 51 and I bought 1pt to make it 52 -125


Now the line is UNDER 49.5 -105

I am not saying I moved the line because I never checked after placing it. Wish I did though. But the line did move 1.5 pts within an hour of me placing the bet. Maybe one of those 30k dudes moved it! :)
 

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godsfavoritedog said:
Some will turn off the casino. I have asked and got positive responses from:

Betjamaica
Cris
WSEX

The following never even bothered to reply to my e-mails (tried twice w/ each book):

5Dimes
Bowman's
Olympic
MVP
Tcbets

Just heard back from MVP and Tcbets and they will also both shut off your casino access. Looks like Olympic, 5Dimes and Bowman's have enough customers and can't be bothered to even respond.
 

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BleedDodgerBlue said:
they do reward you. Every single day with their juice. that is their reward.
Amen brother. Pinnacle is the only book I am currently with. As an added bonus you can make Neteller Instacash deposits through Pinnacle and "only" pay 5%, not 8.5%. Got fed up with the ridiculous bonus advertisements, silly rollovers and endless advertisement emails from, sorry Jack, many of the sponsors of this site. I want a straightforward book, that its easy to put money into and easy to get money out of, straight forward lines, GOOD juice on football and most importantly a web site that is easy to work. Sorry, most importantly I want a book with NO CAPS ON MY PARLAY ODDS. :cursin:

I cant stand Infinity. I went into this a couple years ago so i wont bother doing it again, but you cant claim to be the best place in the world to play parlays and HAVE A FREAKING CAP on your payout odds. I have done well in the past paying 2 and 3 team moneyline dog parlays in baseball (3 teamers on 3 reasonable dogs @ 12-14 to 1), but not at a joint like Infinity where they cap your parlay payouts at 9-1. Even on a lonely $20 parlay, thats $60-$100 they are clipping off you. Sorry I said I wouldnt go into it.

Long live Pinnacle.
 
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Amen with BDB--don't care if I get bonus or not--Give me solid book with low juice--that takes neteller--and is willing to step out on unique props and lines aside from your standard industry cloned offers and whose site don't stall at crunch time.
 

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I could give a rat's ass about "match play" bonus
bullshit...I want ALL LINES up ASAP...that means
COLLEGE TOTALS and NFL MONEYLINES...it's
funny how they throw out the easy shit but wait
till the last minute to offer the gravy...some are
better than others, but college totals are pathetic
and some books wait to Friday night to post NFL
ML's....
 

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Agree with DTB in that a reliable website is of significant importance. Many books online do not have the capacity to accommodate their many players when traffic is heavy and what is worse, is that they seem oblivious to the problem.

Another problem that I have seen that irks me is grading errors. I have seen my share of errors over the years, but never once at Pinnacle.

I also require early overnight lines for hoops. Pinnacle and Cris are outstanding for early hoops lines.

Give me a reliable product, reasonable juice, and I'm happy, no gimmicks needed.
 
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BleedDodgerBlue said:
Theres only one real answer to your question if you want realistic answers.

get rid of the bonuses and stop wasting their money on em and lower the juice. Period. :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
YEP I agree
 
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