USC vs ASU predicted line next week

pt1gard

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was -13 LW ...

guessing back to 16 ....

books would risk being teased under a TD if left at 13 is my 2 cents


gl, gregg
 
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15.5 is my guess. really think oregon had the best chance of the two to take down usc given the venue, the injuries to usc on defense, and the first road game for the trojans. but if oregon couldnt pull it off, i dont see asu faring any better. one thing i will say about these teams -- having played on the offensive side of the football myself, i can appreciate sophisticated passing attacks and spread offenses. but for the life of me, i cant understand the growing trend around college football where teams are lining up on 3rd and 1 from the shotgun and running guys in motion and trying to make run misdirections and all kinds of crazy shit just to gain a yard. theyre snapping the ball 5 yards backs... to go 1 yard forward. thats why usc is so good. they can play the west coast wide-open style, but when it comes down to 3rd and 1,2,or 3, they will just line up and blow you off the ball. nothing tricky. just good solid blocking and physical football. arizona state isnt a whole lot different than oregon. they run the ball a little better, but they still try to get too cute and i dont see how theyre going to match up with usc. trojans beat the shit out of asu last year and this wont be a whole lot different. there are some possible road blocks for usc down the road, but i dont think this will be one of them at all.
 

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If it wasnt for the 6 turnovers, OSU won that game. I thought ASU was a much better team than that. Their Defense is horrible. I am thankful for the TOs because I had ASU as one of my money bet lines. Had 1st and second half, whole game, and 3 team parley 2nd half line, 2nd half over, and Hawaii 2nd half +.5. So I made alot of money, you can bet I will be all over USC in the ASU game. USC will not give it up six times, so it wont be close.
 

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pinny up with -16.5 +100

o/u 71.5 -105 both sides


just put in the over. it's gonna go up, i can dump before game time if i don't like it.


gl
 

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Sun Tzu said:
14

Crossing my fingers on a couple of lines next week. Licking chops as we speak.

Looking forward to your plays. Loved Army last week. Iowa State looked bored and disinterested.
 

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I would say if your going to bet USC, I'd do it early. Right or wrong, the public is going to push this line higher and higher I would think.
 

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I wouldv've expected an OL of 19...seeing 17's as I type.

ASU has a shot to make this more of a game. They have a better O diversity than UO...slightly better coaching too - tho I do know some are not sold on HC Koetter. Their D is better than the Ducks also.
 

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Pinnacle opening line was -14.5

Good post gman2. Only thing I disagree with is ASU is not a better rushing team than Oregon. But they are a better passing team and ASU plays better defense. Although ASU DL is weak vs Oregon DL being strong. USC easily will rush for over 200 yards against ASU. Remember, it is a 12:30pm game. ASU D will be worn out.
 

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ASU is a whole lot different than Oregon... ASU has 2 of the best tight ends in the nation in jamaal lewis and zach miller... and maybe the best wr in the nation in derek hagan.. asu has the fire power if healthy to stay with SC's offense (Zach Miller hasn't played much this yr, his status is in the air)
Yes SC smacked ASU around last year, but this ASU team is much better than last years, that's because of the QB Sam Keller.. the kid is a winner... I like the over
 

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Is Keller a mobile QB? I forget. If he isn't, I predict a 40% prob. he gets banged up badly in the game where it affects his play or leaves. I predicted the Oregon QB to get banged up against USC and that is exactly what happened.That was why he was taken out of the game against USC. Belotti said Clemons got his bell rung. But Clemons was forced back when USC injured the 2nd string QB for Oregon! :) Every QB USC D faced this year has been banged up badly! The USC D hits hard but it is not just sacks. The QB gets his throws off (if he throws short) but gets whacked every time.

We all know Keller needs to be 100% active to have chance at beating USC. Keller is an excellent QB. Guess what? ASU has a stupid coach IMO. He forces the long ball because he is in love with it. #1 it won't work against USC D because USC takes away the long ball and gives up the short pass playing a cover 2 D with both safety's back. #2, if ASU wants to throw long ball, it just increases the hits the QB will take prior to throwing (sacks) and after throwing the ball. #3 ASU often abandons the running game. Just means the USC DL can tee off on Keller. :(

I bet Koetter is licking his chops with his long ball passing attack against those DB's of USC!!! :) Hey, ASU might be able to get away with it. I think ASU should watch how CAL plays USC! Then they can hang with USC! Tedford knows exactly how Carroll plays D and what he gives up and what he takes away. Last year CAL only attempted I think 2 passes over 10 yards. Something crazy like that. Most of these CFB HC's force their gameplan against USC D. Which is STUPID! THat is why USC always looks sharper in 2h than other teams. (conditioning plays major role too) Other coaches on college level can't make adjustments and will often FORCE their gameplan. STUPID! Sadly, I put Koetter in that category because he will force the long pass and abandon the run. Bank on it! Coaching is about making adjustments based on what the other team is doing! ASU repeatedly doesn't do that. I think that will cost ASU against USC because ASU is a very very good team!
 
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to me it's unbelievable people think dirk koetter can't coach.. Iowa runs the same defense as SC... guess what ASU put up 44 on them last year... without the long ball .. Dirk is turning ASU around, while Tedford and Stoops are getting the headlines... Koetter is quietly building a program, and what a boost it will be if they can go punch for punch with the almighty s-c..

I remember in 96.. Nebraska was invincible.. no way would Nebraksa who won 77-13?? the year prior in Lincoln fall to lowly ASU.

Keller is not a mobile QB... but he is no Andew Walter... Keller I would say has the same mobility as Leinart.
 

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bgold13 said:
Keller is not a mobile QB... but he is no Andew Walter... Keller I would say has the same mobility as Leinart.


don't underestimate ballroom dancing classes and the effect it can have. especially as the student athelete that leinhart is. He is studying hard at that one class, so that should make him more mobile.
 
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