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soul train

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2-0 yesterday on posted plays!!


Cuse..15-4..7-9-1 ATS
Pitt..15-1..6-5 ATS


Offenses..

Cuse..76.2 ppg..43.8% fg
Pitt..73.8 ppg..44.9% fg

Defenses..

Cuse..64.8 ppg..37.9% fg
Pitt..59.5 ppg..38.8% fg



The Orangemen are the play tonight!!


BET ID=38992561
Straight Wager 01/23/06 13:08 ET
100.00/90.91 Result: Pending
Syracuse
Pittsburgh 01/23/06 (19:05 ET)
Syracuse +4
 

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Pitt has beat some pretty good teams by larger margins so far, and they are home! I dunno man....
 

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Hamburglar said:
Pitt has beat some pretty good teams by larger margins so far, and they are home! I dunno man....


Pitt opened up a 5 point fav...line dropped to 4.5 now 4...public is on Pitt..i would be very careful betting Pitt tonight...just my opinion...

Go Orangemen!!!
 

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that is a horrible reason to bet on a team. i won't even entertain that statement, it rediculous!

oppinions are like a--holes, we all have them, and they all stink! But only a fool substitues judgement because the majority bets one way. In the end it all works out, and the book balances. Thats how they make their $$$.
 

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You may be on the right side,I do not have a side in this one but if the public is on Pitt,and I think you are right about that,why do you think it's a move in your favor that the line has dropped ? It could mean that Vegas has dropped the line to slow the flow of Pitt money. They drop the line on a favorite that is being backed to scare the favorite money to get money on the dog. If they were to raise the line, some Pitt backers that think they are on the right side would bet more on Pitt. We have seen this move before.
 

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Hamburglar said:
that is a horrible reason to bet on a team. i won't even entertain that statement, it rediculous!

oppinions are like a--holes, we all have them, and they all stink! But only a fool substitues judgement because the majority bets one way. In the end it all works out, and the book balances. Thats how they make their $$$.


Post some plays...because your getting off on the wrong foot around here..you need to stop going in peoples threads and saying stupid shit..like you did in the NBA forum...bet your money on pitt...you will lose...square!!
 

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Hamburg,to bet against the public is just one of the tools that can be used in looking at a game,it is a solid tool, the public is right some times but they are wrong more than right. You are way off, the books don't balance, Vegas and the books win & the public loses most of the time. End of story.
 

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bryanz said:
Hamburg,to bet against the public is just one of the tools that can be used in looking at a game,it is a solid tool, the public is right some times but they are wrong more than right. You are way off, the books don't balance, Vegas and the books win & the public loses most of the time. End of story.


Just taking a shot bryanz...like i said..only because of the line drop..i might be wrong...But at the site the public is on Pitt 67% and the line opened at 5 and is down to 4.I have had some success with the public fade line drop situation.Dont get me wrong the panthers are the better team by far.We will see what happens...good luck tonight
 

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Hamburglar said:
that is a horrible reason to bet on a team. i won't even entertain that statement, it rediculous!

oppinions are like a--holes, we all have them, and they all stink! But only a fool substitues judgement because the majority bets one way. In the end it all works out, and the book balances. Thats how they make their $$$.


thanks for the intelligent well thought out rebuttal :mj07: gl tonite soul, agree with the cuse play
 

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Hamburglar said:
that is a horrible reason to bet on a team. i won't even entertain that statement, it rediculous!

oppinions are like a--holes, we all have them, and they all stink! But only a fool substitues judgement because the majority bets one way. In the end it all works out, and the book balances. Thats how they make their $$$.

Hamburgler (note the correct spelling) - what a tool this chump is...quite the speller I should add...Hamburgler - must be a guy that wants to put his meat between two buns!!!! BOOYYAA!! :s4:
 

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cuse looked real bad vs nova

and

Pitt lost to St John's

so both *should* come to play
 

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Hamburglar said:
that is a horrible reason to bet on a team. i won't even entertain that statement, it rediculous!

oppinions are like a--holes, we all have them, and they all stink! But only a fool substitues judgement because the majority bets one way. In the end it all works out, and the book balances. Thats how they make their $$$.

Somewhere, a third grade teacher is weeping.
 

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Back to the cuse play

Am I the only person who thinks if Mac Attack is off cuse has no shot at beating anyone?
 

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Here is my take on SU.

As they get into conference play, their lack of a front court scoring option in the half court is killing them. Teams are pressuring GMac, forcing him to drive to basket ( his lack of quickness is really showing) or pass off. Teams are extending their defense further out, inviting SU to dump into Roberts and Watkins. Watkins makes Forth look like a gold glove winner and Roberts has no offense off the half court set. He grabs his points off offensive rebounds from weak side. He is shooting 56% from the floor but believe me, most come on dunks. McCroskey has played well in spurts but is woefully inconsistent.

I love GMac but the reality is that he has trouble creating his own shot. He did well when teams had to respect Anthony, Warrick, Edilen, and Duany on the inside and was able to get open jumpers. In confernece play, the defenders are quicker , in his face, and giving him no room. Give him some light and he is capable of shooting the ball as well as anyone. Trouble is that they giving him no room. i expect Krauser, one of the better defenders in the BE, to be shadowing him close again tonite. In case you were not aware, GMac is shooting 33% from the floor this year.

Another major concern is FT shooting. The frontcourt is shooting under 50% ( Roberts - 47%, Watkins 45%, McCroskey 50%, Onuaku - 45%) In a physical match up vs. a team like Pitt, that worries me.

If they beat Pitt, IMHO, it would be their 2nd quality win of the year. Beating Cinncinati on the road qualified but I am not giving them more credit then they deserved for beating Texas Tech on a neutral court. Other then who have they beat? An undersized Notre Dame? On the other hand, Bucknell handled them, Manhatten had them beaten til a miracle, South Florida battled them to the end, and Davidson outplayed them a good part of the game. All these games where at the CARRIER DOME.

SU is not a good team and I can not bet on them. In fact, they will be a go against for me until I see something drastic that changes my mind.
 

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Can someone please tell me where "the public bets" % numbers are coming from. It would seem to not be in the books interest to disclose this info so I am wondering where it all comes from. Please do not flame, I am a noob to handicapping but I tend to be overly logical and I cannot see the logic in some of this thread.

I see a line dropping and I want to think that it is dropping because too much money is coming in on the dog. Now, I know that this is not always true but it seems the logical reason. While books do always "win" and may not strive for a 50-50 betting ratio, they are not psychic and I don't think they'd want all the money coming in on one side.
 

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Line only affects the outcome 15% of the time

Line only affects the outcome 15% of the time

I have checked over the last twenty years and the line comes into play about 15% of the time.With that said it seems I have a 85% chance to win just by picking the winner.I wish it was that easy.Somebody please check on the percent of time the line decides winner/loser.
 
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