I was there for you bear when you stopped gave you some great tips but yet i kept on with the copenhagen, have done it for 18 years and was up to 3 rolls a week yes 3 rolls not 3 cans i do that in a day keep it in from when i wake up till i go to bed, well talked to jack on tues and he got me to try to stop for those who don't know snuff copenhagen has as much nic as 5 smokes at once so started the day after i talked to jack went through my last 2 cans that day and first day sucked big time least i have xanax, i like my snuff and like to spit and having it between check and gum, bought a bunch of nutter scotch candy and keep it where snuff use to be day 2 sucked even more was a major bitch to be around, i pay almost 50 bucks a roll out here so that is a extra 600 bucks a month. I have taken extra xanax because i really like to dip and spit. was going to keep this quite not a big deal to all but jack said others were doing it so i joined in easier when have more then 1 person like when bear quit, this is not easy getting off booze was easier after first 2 to 3 days in rehab before i came on here as a poster, have just keept hard candy in and have stayed in house so not tempted to buy it i will be fine by monday, it would really suck with xanax. i get cold sweats like when i was detoxing off booze but gets better each 4 hours that is when i start to get mean and just pop a xanax and try and do something to keep mind off of it , go to my gym in the house and work out or just hit stair master and the ellipitical for 30 mins and shower after that. but it sucks only real bad habit i had left, but the money saved will be nice can add it into my mutural funds split it up between 2 of them and let money work for me. hell of a time for me to quit right at baseball season. I know a few guys i played with who did it like me and went into depression no shit , they had to get treatment one guy still is in the bigs and back on it, least i have xanax as a cruch to help, my doctor was going to give me a script for a pill that takes cravings away he called it in almost like vailum and xanax but it helps with cravings if i still feel like shit sat will have Jerri fill it is called chlordiazepoxide 25 mg's take 1 every 4 hours he was not thrilled that i was useing extra xanax which i take 3 times a day 1-2 mgs but really only take 3 1 mg 3 times a day unless i am very stressed out so not like i am taking more then 6 mg's like i should be taking anyway i have 2mg bars of xanax to take 3 times a day but break them in half and take 1 mg sometimes only .5mg's but he said this other pill is great for what i am going through so will see on sat. it is used for lot of different things. if not for talking to Jack i would still be doing it as i type. so thanks jack and good luck to all of you who have a head start on me, if bear can go 5 years and everyone else can quit i know i can but it has been harder then booze and also stopping juice when i did it for over 5 straight years. Good to have friends like jack or i would not of even tried have not been in gen for awhile so did not know anything about it till jack told me and i said i would do it with me, think he had 2 or 3 days under his belt already, but i know it has to suck for all but just like the booze with me, i know it will be much better when i am done with it.