Israel attacks Lebanon

[kosar]

Well I do wish they had held off bombing Lebanon's airport. Why? We have Americans that want out and cant get out. Sounds like we will have to bring in helicopters from Europe by way of Cyprus. Some more expenses for American people. Everyone shocked rockets from inside Lebanon landing in Israel. Lebanon condemned at once. What the hell do we expect. You shoot at me I shoot back. It's typical of what happens in this region. They f???ing hate each other.

Dave, come on.

You're worried about 'expenses' for helicopter flights for Americans in Lebanon? Bombing their runways was the exact right thing to do.

Also, I don't think anybody's shocked that Lebanon fired missiles. They shot over a hundred into northern Israel, but then they (or somebody-as Lebanon denies it) shot two into Haifa, the third largest city in Israel and takes a lot more sophisticated and longer range weapon.

Not far from Tel Aviv. So people aren't 'shocked', maybe just a little alarmed.

Why wouldn't Lebanon be 'condemned at once?'

 

[AR182]

i just heard on msnbc that saudi arabia is blaming this on elements within lebannon....which translates to iran.

this guy from the wash. post says that there are middle eastern countries who are afraid that iran wants to cause problems & exert themselves as a player in middle eastern affairs.

i'm sure we all agree that it's surprising that saudi would make such a statement.

 

[djv]

Why don't we condemn them all. Just maybe folks from both sides would stop trying to make one or the other more right then the other. And wheres Egypt when we need them to try and help calm things down. We give them over 3 billion a year no strings attached. Time for them to earn some of it.

 

[kosar]

i just heard on msnbc that saudi arabia is blaming this on elements within lebannon....which translates to iran.



i'm sure we all agree that it's surprising that saudi would make such a statement.

Saw that statement on the ticker, and you're right, pretty surprising.

 

[kosar]

Why don't we condemn them all. Just maybe folks from both sides would stop trying to make one or the other more right then the other. And wheres Egypt when we need them to try and help calm things down. We give them over 3 billion a year no strings attached. Time for them to earn some of it.

Condemn them all? I'm not an Israel apologist by any means, but I don't get that. No, f*ck that, Lebanon comes over the border and snatches 2 soldiers at the behest of Iran/Syria? Enough is enough.

Also, WTF is Egypt going to do about any of this? What could they do?

 

[djv]

Egypt has some strings with the Gaza strip and Palestine. If you can get one spark under control it helps. As for what those folks did coming across border and taking to soldiers was wrong. But does not rate brink of WW III.

 

[kosar]

Egypt has some strings with the Gaza strip and Palestine. If you can get one spark under control it helps. As for what those folks did coming across border and taking to soldiers was wrong. But does not rate brink of WW III.

I don't think we're on the brink of WW3, pretty much no matter what Israel does. Maybe a regional war. I'm not downplaying even that, but let's not get carried away.

Gaza and Palestine has nothing to do with this, and even if they did, Egypt would have no influence on anybody.

 

[AR182]

anybody want to see the map of the middle east ?

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/2236/aendunjustjewoccuptation7ld.jpg

 

[kosar]

anybody want to see the map of the middle east ?

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/2236/aendunjustjewoccuptation7ld.jpg

Right, Al. That's why i've always been kind of surprised that you would think we could ever change that region in any way whatsoever.

Will never happen, and us leading the way for a pro-Iranian government really doesn't bode well.

Protecting our ports, subways in major cities, nuke plants...etc..yeah, I would be up for that. That hasn't happened.

The latest dollar allocation report from Homeland 'Security' identified something like 7500 'targets' in Indiana and 4 thousand something in NY and 3 thousand something in California.

That report is how monies distributed is determined.

But we spend 6 billion a month trying to 'change' a country that was never a threat to begin with. That's pathetic.

 

[djv]

Believe first act was three weeks ago in Gaza. And since then Israel has been teaching them a lesson about capturing there soldier. No one thinks these events with Lebanon were not attempt to try and help there brothers down in Gaza strip. This chit is all over reaction.

 

[kosar]

Believe first act was three weeks ago in Gaza. And since then Israel has been teaching them a lesson about capturing there soldier. No one thinks these events with Lebanon were not attempt to try and help there brothers down in Gaza strip. This chit is all over reaction.

No doubt it's connected with the Gaza kidnapping. But it's not an overreaction. We need help over there, in general, and if Israel is engaged then so much the better. Nobody else seems to give a shit and we're playing traffic cop/target in Iraq.

 

[pirate fan]

With Iraq making progress and Saudi Arabia calling it like they see it, The muslim factions may do anything they can which is to turn the regions hate towards Israel. A war with Israel would unite the Arab nations and US would have to side with Israel which would turn any progress made completely around and revert Iraq back to the radicals. I think Israel could easily win any confrontation now but they may be losing ground with Iran nuke situation and N. Korea willing to sell weapons to any Arab nation willing to buy. I do think Israel overreacted if you look at it as 2 soldiers being kidnapped,----- but they did what was neccessary to prevent this from continuing on as far as terrorists attacking their people. You can't allow it or it will not stop. Tough call, I'm not sure which side I fall into at this point. Israel has been really good I think over the years being patient.

 

[Theismann]

Israel needs to start kickin some ass go ahead and just clean the gaza strip out 1st 2nd kick Lebanon ass and while their at it go on up to Syria and kick their ass and USA should support them any way they can!!!!1 WHAT YOU GONNA DO WHEN THE ISRAELIS COME FOR YOU????

 

[djv]

Lebanon after kicking Syria out trying to grow and be free. Not strong enough to get rid of the terrorist along border with Israel.
To say it's there fault is just wrong. Chit they hardly have a force big enough for defense purpose. If Europe even us been alittle more proactive here this may have been avoided. So 2 soldiers are taken by other then Lebanon forces. So response is blow the chit out of Lebanon. Right now we have over 20000 Americans stuck there. So has Israel worried about the hand that feeds it. The USA. Don't look they give chit who gets stuck or killed. Now I believe Israel has right to defend it self and will always side with them. Have some very good friends there. But some time a more measured response works better then this.

 

[zoomer]

Lebanon after kicking Syria out trying to grow and be free.

"kicking Syria out"

Are you serious? Lebanese leaders can't take a dump without Syria's permission.
Why do you think Hezbollah has secured themselves inside Lebanon? Do you think Lebanese Christians want the Herzbollah there?

Lebanon is a Syrian puppet.

 

[djv]

Your wrong. And Hezbollah is 90% located with in first 15 miles of Lebanon. As for Syria the last of there troops pulled out over two months ago. It's tough spot for Lebanon a new democracies. Just what were backing new democracies. Until they have elections we don't like. The Christians want Hezbollah out. But do not have a strong enough government or army to pull it off. And Europe and US could have helped more. And this might have been avoided.

 

[zoomer]

Your wrong. And Hezbollah is 90% located with in first 15 miles of Lebanon. As for Syria the last of there troops pulled out over two months ago. It's tough spot for Lebanon a new democracies. Just what were backing new democracies. Until they have elections we don't like. The Christians want Hezbollah out. But do not have a strong enough government or army to pull it off. And Europe and US could have helped more. And this might have been avoided.

LOL , I'm not wrong. You know, there are none so blind as those who refuse to see my friend.

Hezbollah and their followers (the entire Muslim population of Lebanon) are ALL OVER Lebanon.
What do you think, there is a red line in the road that Hezbollah are afraid to cross to infiltrate the rest of Lebanon? Who's gonna stop them? The Lebanese Christians ?. The Lebanese government is a puppet of Syria.You don't need the presence of Syrian troops to dictate to the Lebanese government. The pullout of Syrian troops was a smoke and mirror act to appease the Western world.The few Lebanese that have dared oppose Syria's orders have been killed.
Lebanon INVITED the PLO and Hezbollah into their country over 20 years ago. The entire country is infected with Muslim terrorists and sympathizers and always will be until the country is allowed to be fumigated without interference from the rest of the world.

 

[djv]

Syria is out its Iran if any body. Syria has there hands in it for sure but not even close to what they were. And Israel secretary of defense said 90% of Hezbollah with in first 15 miles of Lebanon. I go by him. Iran boast it gives Hezbollah 100 mil a year. Good old Iran another democratic society.

 

[kosar]

Syria is out its Iran if any body. Syria has there hands in it for sure but not even close to what they were. And Israel secretary of defense said 90% of Hezbollah with in first 15 miles of Lebanon. I go by him. Iran boast it gives Hezbollah 100 mil a year. Good old Iran another democratic society.

lol- yup, another 'democracy.' Iran. Just like Palestine and Lebanon.

But there's no way Israel attacks Iran now. And I stress *now*. None. No chance.

Syria, maybe. But even that is doubtful, at least in the next week or so.

 

[yyz]

Dave, I think you're mistaken a bit. Israel would have bombed the shit outta Syria by now, too, if they thought they could get away with it. Syria controls the strings here, likely more, than Lebanon. They happen to be run a little better, and funded a little stronger, so Israel needs to pick it's fight wisely.

Sadly......I think the Chinese are rubbing their little paws and controlling all the strings of the puppets over there. Japan better wake the fukk up, and get back into the ball game, too!

You guys are kidding yourselves if you think this doesn't have the rumblings of a Third World War.