Hey G-dub, I don't mean to be confrontational with you on these subjects.:SIB
""Just to be clear, it was DTB who served, not Weasel.""
of course you`re being confrontational..getting personal......you called me a "freak" a few days ago...
you`ll have to learn that letting your temper get the best of you is a losing proposition...i`m surprised you haven`t learned that already...in business...in a street fight...in anything...
""As for the Clinton draft dodging stuff - well that might make him a chicken. But he never aggressively pushed the country into a pre-emptive war. Don't you understand the word - you need both the chicken and the hawk to make someone a chickenhawk.""
Yesterday 08:16 PM
clinton couldn`t have been involved in any war...he never served?...right?...
of course there`s bosnia..with nato support...but we handled most of the wet work......with a shitpot load of collateral damage..civilian casualties.....but it doesn`t count if you don`t get your hands dirty...right?...
tail wagging the dog?
lets proceed given the absurd assertion that "if you didn`t serve,you can`t declare...or even discuss war"...
we`ll confine the iraq debate to only current and former members of the military...
of course,this excludes over 90 percent of living americans....but,that`s unimportant...lol
so,o.k...as moronic as the premise is,for the sake of argument, let's confine the iraq war debate to those who served in the military, active and reserve, current and retired.....
polls show 70-80 percent of military personnel supported bush's re-election....
i wonder why?....
and let me reiterate...i can`t ever recall stating that i was "gung ho" for invading iraq....i always said that i would have hated to make that decision....
BUT.....i always said that to ignore that there WAS rationale for doing it was cognitive disonance... revisionist history....and just plain dishonest.....
you would have to ignore the genocide of kurds....
the attempted building of the osirak reactor that the israeli`s bombed....
the invasion of kuwait/the burning of their oil fields
the firing at american planes....
the 25 k for suicide bombers...
the bed and breakfast provided for terrorists of all stripes....
the attempted assassination of bush sr...
the over 10 years of blocking u.n. attempts at full and free inspections....
the duplicity of the u.n. regarding sanctions....even when the the faux sanctions were on the verge of being abandoned...even before saddam allowed complete inspections...
the fact that every major intelligence agency declared that saddam was building and or attempting to acquire wmd`s...and that he had not provided proof/accounting of disbanded or destroyed stockpiles of weapons...
the fact that the rhetoric of many high profile dems in congress........during the clinton and bush administrations(including president clinton).....along with their votes to authorize the use of force.....seems to be ignored.....along with the clinton`s "iraq liberation act of 1998" declaring that regime change in iraq was "american policy"....
""The Act found that Iraq had, between 1980 and 1998 (1) committed various and significant violations of International Law, (2) had failed to comply with the obligations to which it had agree following the First Gulf War and (3) further had ignored Resolutions of the United Nations Security Council. The Act declared that it was the Policy of the United States to support "regime change." The Act was passed in the House [2] and Senate [3] and signed into law by the US President Bill Clinton on October 31, 1998. Its stated purpose was: "to establish a program to support a transition to democracy in Iraq." Specifically, Congress made findings of past Iraqi military actions in violation of International Law and that Iraq had denied entry of United Nations Special Commission on Iraq (UNSCOM) inspectors into its country to inspect for weapons of mass destruction. Congress found: "It should be the policy of the United States to support efforts to remove the regime headed by Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq and to promote the emergence of a democratic government to replace that regime."""
there were reasons....agree or disagree...
to ignore all this?.....would only enforce the evidence that supports the long term affects of ritalin abuse on the cranial atrophy of today`s enlightened ignorant....
and no.....before you start....that kid-shooter in montreal wasn`t part of a bush/rovian plot to invade quebec.....