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Private Saudi citizens are giving millions of dollars to Sunni insurgents in Iraq and much of the money is used to buy weapons, including shoulder fired anti-aircraft missiles, according to key Iraqi officials and others familiar with the flow of cash.

Saudi government officials deny that any money from their country is being sent to Iraqis fighting the government and the U.S.-led coalition.

But the U.S. Iraq Study Group report said Saudis are a source of funding for Sunni Arab insurgents. Several truck drivers interviewed by The Associated Press described carrying boxes of cash from Saudi Arabia into Iraq, money they said was headed for insurgents.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17021136/
 
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Another Helicopter Shot Down 7 U.S. Die


Private Saudi citizens are giving millions of dollars to Sunni insurgents in Iraq and much of the money is used to buy weapons, including shoulder fired anti-aircraft missiles, according to key Iraqi officials and others familiar with the flow of cash.

Saudi government officials deny that any money from their country is being sent to Iraqis fighting the government and the U.S.-led coalition.

But the U.S. Iraq Study Group report said Saudis are a source of funding for Sunni Arab insurgents. Several truck drivers interviewed by The Associated Press described carrying boxes of cash from Saudi Arabia into Iraq, money they said was headed for insurgents.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17021136/

somebody get this ghoul some kleenex before he splooges all over the forum....
 
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Bush Saudi friends fly planes into WTC

Bush Saudi friends fly planes into WTC

and now use American gas money to supply Iraqis forces with anti aircraft missiles against US soldiers, and nobody's talking about it. When will the US bomb Saudi Arabia? This war will go on well past 08. The Dems are not going to do anything and Bush will keep it going until he leaves office. More than 6,000 Americans have died under President Bush and 7 more died today.
 

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I don't know why folks think Saudi is a great friends of ours. Maybe Cheney and Bush. Sad thing is. It's reported its our weapons killing our men.
 

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What the phuck is wrong with these Republican Assholes

What the phuck is wrong with these Republican Assholes

This is Phucking Cheney and Bush sucking these Arab Emir's Kocks.

Phucking bush trying to give them our american ports.

And then Bush brokers 15,000 Saudi Students last fall to come to The USA and meander about our Colleges/Universities.

What kind of phucking shit is this.What the Phuck is really wrong with these Republican Pricks.

I can tolerate just about anything accept when Bush keeps alluded to these scumbag Saudi Arabs as our allies.
 

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Have a list here somewhere of all the terrorist captured or killed by Saudi's since 01

but bottom line is--10 years prior to invasion of afgan/iraq we had 2 attacks by Al-Quada on trade towers- numerous embassy bombings--ship bombed ect

How many have occured in last 6 years-:shrug:

and you can thank new ally Pakistan for help in twarting the bombings of several airliners and last UK venture.

Now ask yourself --where we'd be if Kerry was elected and we didn't have the new ally's and still be trying to stroke the French.
 

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I just heard the news this morning, one of my classmates was on that helo. We think they were the pilot of it but have not confirmed it yet. Got an update from them in the class newsletter last month about how things were going out there and now boom.
 

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I just heard the news this morning, one of my classmates was on that helo. We think they were the pilot of it but have not confirmed it yet. Got an update from them in the class newsletter last month about how things were going out there and now boom.

Sorry for your loss Marine.
 

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and now use American gas money to supply Iraqis forces with anti aircraft missiles against US soldiers, and nobody's talking about it. When will the US bomb Saudi Arabia? This war will go on well past 08. The Dems are not going to do anything and Bush will keep it going until he leaves office. More than 6,000 Americans have died under President Bush and 7 more died today.

Spy this King Abdullah is as big a scumbag as Cheney. These two are in bed together. Throw in the puppet Bush and you have nice three team terrorist network. The incredible thirst for oil by Bush and Cheney means they will always bow down to this guy. Because this pig controls the world's largest oil reserves, we won't do shit to this guy You would be surprised what this phuck gets away with by oppressing his people and we look the other way. You could be flogged for being alone with an unrelated person of the opposite sex under his rule. Truly genuine guy.
 

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Have a list here somewhere of all the terrorist captured or killed by Saudi's since 01

but bottom line is--10 years prior to invasion of afgan/iraq we had 2 attacks by Al-Quada on trade towers- numerous embassy bombings--ship bombed ect

How many have occured in last 6 years-:shrug:

and you can thank new ally Pakistan for help in twarting the bombings of several airliners and last UK venture.

Now ask yourself --where we'd be if Kerry was elected and we didn't have the new ally's and still be trying to stroke the French.


I don't know where we'd be if Kerry was elected, other than probably not in Iraq, which most people seem to wish was the case. I think that would be a great step for the U.S., personally, and so do most non-Neocons.

As for your other assessment, I guess you are only wanting to talk about specific things that make your story look better. As for embassy bombings in the 10 previous years (I guess blaming Clinton/demcrats, as that would be the normal blame from you), what about Islamic bombings in the 10 years before that? How about 1983 in Lebanon under Reagan/Bush I's watch? Or, in 1984, under the same watch? Interesting to note there was no response to those by our administration - which perhaps could have led to the subsequent attacks and growth of terrorism under the watch of republican administrations? In the African embassy terror attacks, Clinton ordered air strikes on terror camps, which was a direct response. Hey, it's something. And considering that Kerry is also a military man familiar with war and terrorism, he probably wouldn't stand idly by if we were attacked. I don't think many people would. He just might have stayed the REAL course and maintained sufficient forces in the country and areas where the person responsible for attacking our country is known to hang out, and not pulled them out to fight elsewhere under false pretenses.

You ask for attacks since 9-11. Plenty on American interests, if that matters (I assume it won't for some reason...):

2002
June 14, Karachi, Pakistan: bomb exploded outside American consulate in Karachi, Pakistan, killing 12. Linked to al-Qaeda.

2003
May 12, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia: suicide bombers killed 34, including 8 Americans, at housing compounds for Westerners. Al-Qaeda suspected.

2004
May 29?31, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia: terrorists attack the offices of a Saudi oil company in Khobar, Saudi Arabia, take foreign oil workers hostage in a nearby residential compound, leaving 22 people dead including one American.
June 11?19, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia: terrorists kidnap and execute Paul Johnson Jr., an American, in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. 2 other Americans and BBC cameraman killed by gun attacks.
Dec. 6, Jeddah, Saudi Arabia: terrorists storm the U.S. consulate, killing 5 consulate employees. 4 terrorists were killed by Saudi security.

2005
Nov. 9, Amman, Jordan: Suicide bombers hit 3 American hotels, Radisson, Grand Hyatt, and Days Inn, in Amman, Jordan, killing 57. Al-Qaeda claimed responsibility.

2006
Sept. 13, Damascus, Syria: an attack by four gunman on the American embassy was foiled. (Yay...we finally stopped one, I guess...)

2007
Jan. 12, Athens, Greece: the U.S. embassy was fired on by an anti-tank missile causing damage but no injuries.

Do you think the fact that the Saudi's have "helped the U.S.", as you put it, in capturing terrorists, has anything to do with the terrorists attacking oil and other Saudi government interests IN SAUDI ARABIA?!? Thanks for that insight. And of course, Pakistan...who has still not been able to find the man responsible for 9-11, much like our administration, who seems to still be looking for him in Iraq. Nice to know the Taliban have been making a comeback there.

What new allys are you referring, to, by the way? That is an interesting jab. Looks like Bush is getting pretty close to helping Putin gain some renewed power as a world leader by his antics of late. If anyone actually reads the last few comments by Putin, and doesn't have an eternal hardon for the Bush administration, you could certainly see some believability and sensibility in some of those assessments. Much less has bread dangerous partnerships against the U.S. in the past.

Maybe it's time Dubbya pixxed the Chinese off again...it's been a few weeks since he's rattled their cage.

At least when we attack and take over Iran, their oil reserves will pay for that one. Right?
 

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Wayne cracks me up.

He starts , rightfully, in the late 70's with Carters ineffective and bungling efforts to get our hostages released.

He ignores Reagan almost immediately getting the hell out of Beirut in 1983 after terrorists (Hezbollah) killed 244 Marines. No retribution by us whatsoever. We just left. Never mentioned by Wayne, ever. Cut and run.

After that, he continues to ignore our alliance with Al-Qaeda that Reagan had fomented in the 80's fighting the USSR in Afghanistan.

After THAT Wayne totally ignores our support and encouragement of Saddam as Saddam invaded Iran with our chemical gas supplies and technology and intelligence in order to use against Iran.

All the while he ignores Reagan illegally and illogically selling arms to Iran (the same country that took our hostages and the same country that runs Hezbollah, who blew up our Marines, shortly before we cut and ran). All to depose a government/dictactor in Central America who, ummm, just got re-elected a few months ago.

Wayne has no problem with that.

He skips over the very intelligent determination of Bush 41 and, umm, at that time, Cheney, that going into Baghdad would be a disaster in 1991.

He'd prefer to skip to the first WTC bombing when Bubba had been in office for a few months and also the Somalia debacle. We never had any business in there and it was a dumb decision to go there and nothing good could have come out of it. Luckily, Bubba finally recogized this, just like Reagan did a couple decades before in Lebanon.

Back to ignoring. A silly argument that Bubba kept us safe from 1993 to 2001. Not his argument of course, God forbid, but similar to his goofy pride about us not having been hit since 2001???

Let's put every President in there from 1941-1993. With the 1993 bombing costing 15 or so lives, I believe. Hardly Pearl Harbor or 9/11, but whatever.

The point is, that it's pointless. Terrorist attacks throughout the world are at an all time high and it's not even close and it's sad that some people just keep goose-stepping along.
 

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DTB the goose-stepper.

Thank you Kosar. I know you must get tired of dragging out the same timelines over and over and over again.

Our 2 biggest terrorist hits have come when Reagan was president and Dubya. This must drive partisan Republicans like DTB crazy. "How can we spin this to the Dems?" they ask themselves.
 

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Well the cold facts are is that the Hardline Bush Supporters will rubber stamp anything Bush does. Including the following



JUST LOOK AT BUSH in that picture And that Arab Scumbag.

Just look at Bush brokering 15,000 of these Saudi Students to come to our Universities.

Just look at Bush trying to give our ports to The Arabs......

Just Listen to Bush declare The Arab Emirates are our Allies and he would veto any legislation trying to block them from getting control of our ports.

Anyone with a brain would think these things are pretty bad, that is unless you are concerned about airplane sizes like hannity. What an idiot .

Do all the repubs approve of these things ???:shrug: it's a simple yes or no ..you either approve of bush doing this chit with athe suadis or not..................

Some how the towers and sucking saudi kock is to be blamed on kerry???:142smilie
 
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SMURPHY is right..

The Towers came down on Bush's watch.

By a majority of Saudi terrorist.

That is Bush in that picture , not kerry, isn't it???

Quisling
 

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DTB the goose-stepper.

Thank you Kosar. I know you must get tired of dragging out the same timelines over and over and over again.

Our 2 biggest terrorist hits have come when Reagan was president and Dubya. This must drive partisan Republicans like DTB crazy. "How can we spin this to the Dems?" they ask themselves.

Yeah, it's kind of scary, actually. But we've had Dubya elected twice, so it's not that shocking I guess.

And yes, it gets old posting the same stuff and predictably getting ignored. But I understand. What kind of response could possibly be forthcoming?

I repeatedly bash Carter for the hostage thing and I bash Bubba for the Somalia thing(going there in the first place), yet you don't get a peep out of some people for similar to much worse transgressions.

The crickets will continue to chirp.
 
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