Hunting Season or Vegetarian
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I hear its seal season up in Canada. Go for it!! :com:
I just cant believe I am a member of the same species as one who can do this for fun. :scared
I just cant believe I am a member of the same species as one who can do this for fun. :scared
The beginning of a wet dream for some....
The end of said dream.....
Think I will stick to dreams of Keeley!! :00hour
The end of said dream.....
Think I will stick to dreams of Keeley!! :00hour
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holy sheet :mj07: :mj07:
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Why be a Veggie 101:
When it comes to vegetarianism, the number one question on most meat-eaters' minds is, "What do you eat?" The answer: Anything we want! There are vegetarian alternatives to almost any animal food, from soy sausages and "Fib Ribs" to Tofurky jerky and mock lobster. Vegetarian-friendly menus are sprouting up everywhere?even Burger King offers veggie burgers?and more and more eateries are focusing exclusively on vegetarian and vegan foods. There are fantastic alternatives to every dairy product you can imagine, including Soy Delicious ice cream, Silk chocolate soy milk, Tofutti cream cheese, and more.
Going vegetarian has never been easier, and we're here to help! From our fantastic recipes and list of favorite products and favorite vegetarian cookbooks to our free vegetarian starter kit and online shopping guide, PETA has all the information you need to adopt a healthy and humane vegetarian diet!
Every year in the U.S., more than 27 billion animals are slaughtered for food. Raising animals on factory farms is cruel and ecologically devastating. Eating animals is bad for our health, leading directly to many diseases and illnesses, including heart attacks, strokes, cancer, diabetes, and obesity. In response to animal welfare, health, and ecological concerns, compassionate people everywhere are adopting a vegetarian diet.
For Animals
Animals on factory farms are treated like meat, milk, and egg machines. Chickens have their sensitive beaks seared off with a hot blade, and male cattle and pigs are castrated without any painkillers. All farmed chickens, turkeys, and pigs spend their brief lives in dark and crowded warehouses, many of them so cramped that they can't even turn around or spread a single wing. They are mired in their own waste, and the stench of ammonia fills the air. Animals raised for food are bred and drugged to grow as large as possible as quickly as possible?many are so heavy that they become crippled under their own weight and die within inches of their water supply.
Animals on factory farms do not see the sun or get a breath of fresh air until they are prodded and crammed onto trucks for a nightmarish ride to the slaughterhouse, often through weather extremes and always without food or water. Many die during transport, and others are too sick or weak to walk off the truck after they reach the slaughterhouse. The animals who survive this hellish ordeal are hung upside-down and their throats are slit, often while they're completely conscious. Many are still alive while they are skinned, hacked into pieces, or scalded in the defeathering tanks. Learn more about the factory-farming industry. By switching to a vegetarian diet, you can save more than 100 animals a year from this misery.
One suggestion: If you plan to make the transition to a vegetarian diet gradually, the most important foods to cut out of your diet first are bird flesh and eggs. While many people think that ?red meat? and dairy products should be the first to go, this isn?t the case. By cutting bird flesh from your diet, you?ll save many more animals. Because chickens are so small, the average meat-eater is responsible for the deaths of many more chickens than cows. Plus, chickens and turkeys exploited by the meat and egg industries are the most abused animals commonly used for food.
For Your Health
Some of the leading killers in America today, including heart disease, cancer, obesity, and strokes, are directly linked to meat-based diets. Heart disease is the number one cause of death in America today, and it is caused by the build-up of cholesterol and saturated fat from animal products in our arteries. The only two doctors in human history who have successfully reversed heart disease have included an exclusively vegetarian diet as a part of their programs. The average vegan cholesterol level is 133 (compared to 210 for meat-eaters); there are no documented cases of heart attacks in individuals with cholesterol under 150. Other health problems tied to clogged arteries, like poor circulation and atherosclerotic strokes, can be virtually eliminated with a vegan diet.
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When it comes to vegetarianism, the number one question on most meat-eaters' minds is, "What do you eat?" The answer: Anything we want! There are vegetarian alternatives to almost any animal food, from soy sausages and "Fib Ribs" to Tofurky jerky and mock lobster. Vegetarian-friendly menus are sprouting up everywhere?even Burger King offers veggie burgers?and more and more eateries are focusing exclusively on vegetarian and vegan foods. There are fantastic alternatives to every dairy product you can imagine, including Soy Delicious ice cream, Silk chocolate soy milk, Tofutti cream cheese, and more.
Going vegetarian has never been easier, and we're here to help! From our fantastic recipes and list of favorite products and favorite vegetarian cookbooks to our free vegetarian starter kit and online shopping guide, PETA has all the information you need to adopt a healthy and humane vegetarian diet!
Every year in the U.S., more than 27 billion animals are slaughtered for food. Raising animals on factory farms is cruel and ecologically devastating. Eating animals is bad for our health, leading directly to many diseases and illnesses, including heart attacks, strokes, cancer, diabetes, and obesity. In response to animal welfare, health, and ecological concerns, compassionate people everywhere are adopting a vegetarian diet.
For Animals
Animals on factory farms are treated like meat, milk, and egg machines. Chickens have their sensitive beaks seared off with a hot blade, and male cattle and pigs are castrated without any painkillers. All farmed chickens, turkeys, and pigs spend their brief lives in dark and crowded warehouses, many of them so cramped that they can't even turn around or spread a single wing. They are mired in their own waste, and the stench of ammonia fills the air. Animals raised for food are bred and drugged to grow as large as possible as quickly as possible?many are so heavy that they become crippled under their own weight and die within inches of their water supply.
Animals on factory farms do not see the sun or get a breath of fresh air until they are prodded and crammed onto trucks for a nightmarish ride to the slaughterhouse, often through weather extremes and always without food or water. Many die during transport, and others are too sick or weak to walk off the truck after they reach the slaughterhouse. The animals who survive this hellish ordeal are hung upside-down and their throats are slit, often while they're completely conscious. Many are still alive while they are skinned, hacked into pieces, or scalded in the defeathering tanks. Learn more about the factory-farming industry. By switching to a vegetarian diet, you can save more than 100 animals a year from this misery.
One suggestion: If you plan to make the transition to a vegetarian diet gradually, the most important foods to cut out of your diet first are bird flesh and eggs. While many people think that ?red meat? and dairy products should be the first to go, this isn?t the case. By cutting bird flesh from your diet, you?ll save many more animals. Because chickens are so small, the average meat-eater is responsible for the deaths of many more chickens than cows. Plus, chickens and turkeys exploited by the meat and egg industries are the most abused animals commonly used for food.
For Your Health
Some of the leading killers in America today, including heart disease, cancer, obesity, and strokes, are directly linked to meat-based diets. Heart disease is the number one cause of death in America today, and it is caused by the build-up of cholesterol and saturated fat from animal products in our arteries. The only two doctors in human history who have successfully reversed heart disease have included an exclusively vegetarian diet as a part of their programs. The average vegan cholesterol level is 133 (compared to 210 for meat-eaters); there are no documented cases of heart attacks in individuals with cholesterol under 150. Other health problems tied to clogged arteries, like poor circulation and atherosclerotic strokes, can be virtually eliminated with a vegan diet.
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She may be....
but...
there is no substantiated truth to the rumors that she ignited two sonic boomers within the confines of her bloomers.
......:lol2 .. now that`s the buddy we all know and love....you painted such a vivid mental picture that i`m actually catching a whiff of ass.....:wtf: :em38:
:shrug: not sure why I bother to respond. If you don't want to hunt, fine. I just don't understand the need to belittle those who do.
Scott, your childhood stories are disturbing. Sounds like you had a real bloodlust.
I certainly don't have 'wet dreams' thinking about cutting a fawn's throat. I mean, :wtf: 3 seconds?
Scott, your childhood stories are disturbing. Sounds like you had a real bloodlust.
I certainly don't have 'wet dreams' thinking about cutting a fawn's throat. I mean, :wtf: 3 seconds?
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Why smack the hand that rocks the cradle?
Why smack the hand that rocks the cradle?
American hunter is a vanishing breed
By Oren Dorell
USA TODAY
States worry decline could cripple funding of conservancy programs
States that rely on tens of millions of dollars in hunting license fees annually to pay for environmental conservation are trying to boost a population they had never thought of protecting: the endangered American hunter.
The number of hunters has slid from a peak of 19.1 million in 1975 to 12.5 million last year, according to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service.
With that drop has come worries that states won't be able to pay for the rising costs of conservation efforts and acquisition of open space.
States generated $724 million last year through hunting licenses and fees for wildlife management and conservation; taxes on guns and ammunition added another $267 million, according to the Fish and Wildlife Service.
"Sportsmen pay the bills, especially east of the Mississippi," says Rob Sexton, vice president for government affairs at the U.S. Sportsmen's Alliance, a hunters advocacy group in Columbus, Ohio. "A vast majority of the public land where people go for walks, wildlife viewing or mountain biking, the vast majority is bought by sportsmen."
To stem the loss, states have been altering hunting laws to get people into the woods.
Since 2004, 18 states have changed their laws to loosen restrictions on when children can hunt with parents, and to allow novice adult hunters to try hunting without a license, Sexton says. The effort has shown signs of working, Sexton says: The states have seen an additional 35,000 people apply for hunting licenses since 2004.
The decrease in hunters appears to be a result of modern living, says Nicholas Throckmorton, Fish and Wildlife Service spokesman. He says fewer Americans hunt because they are spending more time on work and organized sports for their children. Most Americans now live farther from wildlife areas than in the past, says Throckmorton, whose agency conducts a national survey of Americans' outdoor activities every five years.
Officials are changing state laws because they are "trying to tear down the barrier for recruitment of new hunters," Throckmorton says.
Mark Damian Duda, executive director of Responsive Management, a research firm focusing on outdoor recreation, says the modest increase in the hunter population has been good news. He says the vanishing hunters are "a long-term concern."
"At some point, there's going to be less dollars if current trends continue," Duda says. "Is it a good thing for fewer and fewer people to be funding all wildlife conservation ? protecting national resources enjoyed by 97% of the people?"Among steps being taken:
?Kentucky allows new hunters to hunt for a year with a legal hunter before taking a hunter-safety course. Since July, 1,159 new permits have been issued.
?Oregon has a Mentored Youth Hunter Program that allows unlicensed children ages 9 to 13 to receive one-on-one hunting experience and training.
?Arizona implemented an online hunter-safety course that can be completed in three hours, instead of the standard 16. Big game, such as deer, are reserved for hunters 10 and up.
Thad Musser, 33, who bought a deer-hunting bow at B&B Archery Pro Shop in Manassas, Va., last week, says changing the hunting age in Virginia, now 12, would not lure more hunters; they'd merely start younger. His 4-year-old nephew wants to hunt now and will still want to in seven years, he says.
Larry Ralph, 16, of Gainesville, Va., who started hunting at 13, says it was the rite of passage ? his father "passed on the 30-30 (rifle) to me" ? that spurred his interest. "I guess the younger the better."
More hunters also help states save money on certain expenditures, such as those linked to damage by foragers that are too plentiful, such as the Canada goose and whitetail deer.
"Rather than paying professional hunters to cull the herd, sportsmen would be happy to pay a fee to do it themselves," Sexton says.
Some say the focus on hunter retention is not the way to go.
"The number of people who hunt has declined in recent decades, and the number of people who enjoy wildlife in other ways, like wildlife watching or bird-watching, continues to expand," says Michael Markarian, executive vice president of the Humane Society of the United States. "Efforts to reverse these trends are futile."
Rachel Brittin, spokeswoman for the Association of Fish & Wildlife Agencies, says hunters are a great source of revenue, but they can't do it alone.
U.S. wildlife is threatened by more issues than ever: increasing urbanization, invasive species, climate change and new diseases. States receive $1.5 billion a year but need an additional $1 billion annually to accomplish goals, Brittin says.
Efforts to raise enough elsewhere have failed, says Dave Chadwick of the Association of Fish and Wildlife Agencies.
Lawmakers came up with a plan to buy land with $350 million a year in offshore oil and gas revenue, he says. Environmental groups squawked about taking money from the oil and gas industry, and property rights advocates balked at the land acquisitions, Chadwick says. The effort died in 2000.
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Why smack the hand that rocks the cradle?
American hunter is a vanishing breed
By Oren Dorell
USA TODAY
States worry decline could cripple funding of conservancy programs
States that rely on tens of millions of dollars in hunting license fees annually to pay for environmental conservation are trying to boost a population they had never thought of protecting: the endangered American hunter.
The number of hunters has slid from a peak of 19.1 million in 1975 to 12.5 million last year, according to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service.
With that drop has come worries that states won't be able to pay for the rising costs of conservation efforts and acquisition of open space.
States generated $724 million last year through hunting licenses and fees for wildlife management and conservation; taxes on guns and ammunition added another $267 million, according to the Fish and Wildlife Service.
"Sportsmen pay the bills, especially east of the Mississippi," says Rob Sexton, vice president for government affairs at the U.S. Sportsmen's Alliance, a hunters advocacy group in Columbus, Ohio. "A vast majority of the public land where people go for walks, wildlife viewing or mountain biking, the vast majority is bought by sportsmen."
To stem the loss, states have been altering hunting laws to get people into the woods.
Since 2004, 18 states have changed their laws to loosen restrictions on when children can hunt with parents, and to allow novice adult hunters to try hunting without a license, Sexton says. The effort has shown signs of working, Sexton says: The states have seen an additional 35,000 people apply for hunting licenses since 2004.
The decrease in hunters appears to be a result of modern living, says Nicholas Throckmorton, Fish and Wildlife Service spokesman. He says fewer Americans hunt because they are spending more time on work and organized sports for their children. Most Americans now live farther from wildlife areas than in the past, says Throckmorton, whose agency conducts a national survey of Americans' outdoor activities every five years.
Officials are changing state laws because they are "trying to tear down the barrier for recruitment of new hunters," Throckmorton says.
Mark Damian Duda, executive director of Responsive Management, a research firm focusing on outdoor recreation, says the modest increase in the hunter population has been good news. He says the vanishing hunters are "a long-term concern."
"At some point, there's going to be less dollars if current trends continue," Duda says. "Is it a good thing for fewer and fewer people to be funding all wildlife conservation ? protecting national resources enjoyed by 97% of the people?"Among steps being taken:
?Kentucky allows new hunters to hunt for a year with a legal hunter before taking a hunter-safety course. Since July, 1,159 new permits have been issued.
?Oregon has a Mentored Youth Hunter Program that allows unlicensed children ages 9 to 13 to receive one-on-one hunting experience and training.
?Arizona implemented an online hunter-safety course that can be completed in three hours, instead of the standard 16. Big game, such as deer, are reserved for hunters 10 and up.
Thad Musser, 33, who bought a deer-hunting bow at B&B Archery Pro Shop in Manassas, Va., last week, says changing the hunting age in Virginia, now 12, would not lure more hunters; they'd merely start younger. His 4-year-old nephew wants to hunt now and will still want to in seven years, he says.
Larry Ralph, 16, of Gainesville, Va., who started hunting at 13, says it was the rite of passage ? his father "passed on the 30-30 (rifle) to me" ? that spurred his interest. "I guess the younger the better."
More hunters also help states save money on certain expenditures, such as those linked to damage by foragers that are too plentiful, such as the Canada goose and whitetail deer.
"Rather than paying professional hunters to cull the herd, sportsmen would be happy to pay a fee to do it themselves," Sexton says.
Some say the focus on hunter retention is not the way to go.
"The number of people who hunt has declined in recent decades, and the number of people who enjoy wildlife in other ways, like wildlife watching or bird-watching, continues to expand," says Michael Markarian, executive vice president of the Humane Society of the United States. "Efforts to reverse these trends are futile."
Rachel Brittin, spokeswoman for the Association of Fish & Wildlife Agencies, says hunters are a great source of revenue, but they can't do it alone.
U.S. wildlife is threatened by more issues than ever: increasing urbanization, invasive species, climate change and new diseases. States receive $1.5 billion a year but need an additional $1 billion annually to accomplish goals, Brittin says.
Efforts to raise enough elsewhere have failed, says Dave Chadwick of the Association of Fish and Wildlife Agencies.
Lawmakers came up with a plan to buy land with $350 million a year in offshore oil and gas revenue, he says. Environmental groups squawked about taking money from the oil and gas industry, and property rights advocates balked at the land acquisitions, Chadwick says. The effort died in 2000.
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Its about time at least one hunter came in here.
I am not belittling anyone. I am asking why .
And you obviously do not have a answer.
I dont think my childhood stories are any more disturbing than for you to shoot the head of
of a gobbler. And if it flapped around too much you would shoot it or stomp it or something.
If you are going to kill something you better not be thinking about it twice. This was wildlife I was killing in the woods. Not kittens or puppies. Big differance. So stick your disturbingness.
Now I make many large custom steel birdfeeders and sell them to people. I have had birds come and sit on them before we even have them installed in the yard. I have never killed another bird when my hunting days were over.
If you would understand what I am saying you would think about that little girl looking at all those dead deer. Why is that necessary for her to see that ? How can you explain that to a child, when hunters cant even explain it themselves.
Or the two idiots posing on the jeep. What kind of mentality does that take ? maybe a few of your friends.
I was also raised around people that would jack deer out of season using spotlights. I have seen the bad sides of hunting.
At least I knew when to stop. I look to the beauty of animals in the wild now.
So what is it that you get out of hunting ?
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I hunt at strip clubs.........and you don't need a license because hunting is allowed all year. There isn't a stripper season............:142smilie
Scott, I've never done the types of things you describe. The only things i've ever killed, even as a kid with a pellet gun, were either pest animals like starlings and English sparrows that were legal to kill or things that had a season.
Being in the outdoors is special and a cherished tradition for me and my family. There's nothing like getting the absolute shakes even when a doe walks out, or having the chit scared out of your by a turkey gobbling just yards away. Even the incidental things you see are great like a Great Horned Owl picking off a squirrel a few yards away or a bald eagle swooping down to snatch a duck out of midair. The scenery is also fabulous.
you can't equate hunting with killing, and if you do, you just don't get it.
Being in the outdoors is special and a cherished tradition for me and my family. There's nothing like getting the absolute shakes even when a doe walks out, or having the chit scared out of your by a turkey gobbling just yards away. Even the incidental things you see are great like a Great Horned Owl picking off a squirrel a few yards away or a bald eagle swooping down to snatch a duck out of midair. The scenery is also fabulous.
you can't equate hunting with killing, and if you do, you just don't get it.
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I know what your saying about seeing other wildlife and being out there in the woods.
But that is about the stupidest thing I have ever seen from you.
You still have to put a bullet in the deer and hope it will not be wounded and run 200-300 yds.
I have tracked blood signs with my grandfather, a long ways. And then found the deer still breathing in a heap.
Then what do you have to do while looking at the dieing animal.
So that's not about killing huh you big moose ?
You described killing in your sadistic youthful days. I never did that chit. That's killing; it's not hunting. Like I said, why did I bother. :shrug:
I'll leave you a pic of my favorite vegan of all time.
Geez Louise
my memory was just jogged about when I decided against hunting anymore.
I was with my grandfather , I called Pa. We were deep in the woods and he put me out in a stand and went down to his spot.
It was cold and I remember thinking, what am I doing here freezing my ass off in the dark.
When the sun came up after a hour or so , I heard a shot. Then another.
He came up towards me and told me he had got one and come with him.
I got down out of the stand and we tracked the deer by his blood going through the snow. It seemed like forever before we found it.
The deer was laying there bleeding in the snow. It was a four pointer. Not a very big deer. He was breathing hard and his tongue was hanging out.
My grandfather told me to shoot it. I protested but he insisted I shoot it. I had a Remington 30.06
with a 4x scope. I looked through the scope and fired. It missed. Now my grandfather was pissed. He said , don't look through the scope, Just point it and shoot him. So as the deer looked up at me still breathing hard , I shot him in the head.
After that I told my grandfather I didnt want to kill deer anymore. He said just wait and see how you feel about it next season.
I never killed another deer after that day.
my memory was just jogged about when I decided against hunting anymore.
I was with my grandfather , I called Pa. We were deep in the woods and he put me out in a stand and went down to his spot.
It was cold and I remember thinking, what am I doing here freezing my ass off in the dark.
When the sun came up after a hour or so , I heard a shot. Then another.
He came up towards me and told me he had got one and come with him.
I got down out of the stand and we tracked the deer by his blood going through the snow. It seemed like forever before we found it.
The deer was laying there bleeding in the snow. It was a four pointer. Not a very big deer. He was breathing hard and his tongue was hanging out.
My grandfather told me to shoot it. I protested but he insisted I shoot it. I had a Remington 30.06
with a 4x scope. I looked through the scope and fired. It missed. Now my grandfather was pissed. He said , don't look through the scope, Just point it and shoot him. So as the deer looked up at me still breathing hard , I shot him in the head.
After that I told my grandfather I didnt want to kill deer anymore. He said just wait and see how you feel about it next season.
I never killed another deer after that day.
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no what that is , is preparing for hunting.
sounds like you had a terrible hunting mentor, grandfather or not. I might feel the same if that was my experience.
