You Obama Jock Riders...

abc

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I got a question for yall, what is your fascination with him?
Do you even know what his views are? Does he even take sides on certain issues? It's a joke that someone with such little experience is even being mentioned for Presidency. Sure he is a fantastic speaker and has a lot of charisma.. but heres 100$ buy a clue
 

DOGS THAT BARK

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He's for hope and change.

What else do you need to know?

No offense and noble thought--but the Tony Robbins of the world have made nice payday praying on same impulse of people--Motivation is great but at some point in time you have ask-"show me the money"

I'd have reason to vote for every candidate on both sides--if I thought half the hope/change/promises- they made were remotely feasable.
 

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Seriously...

Bush's experience:

6 years governor.

Obama:

6 years in Illinois State Senate
4 years in US Senate (by the time the next president is sworn in)

I don't see a huge difference.

We have plenty of examples of governors from rinky-dink states, with limited national "experience" becoming president.

Tell me who the most experienced president of all time was, AND how it helped him. Bonus points for an example in the last 75 years.
 

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First of all, who here do you consider an Obama Jock Rider here? Who has come out in full support of him thus far? I guess I haven't seen anyone saying that he is their candidate, maybe I missed it.

He has many positions, I have researched some of his stances. I don't agree with some of them, I do agree with some of them. Probably agree with more than I disagree with. He can pretty accurately be labeled as a liberal democrat, I think, as he supports most of the notoriously liberal positions.

Personally, I think he is more economically liberal than I can wholeheartedly support, and probably more socially liberal, too. But I do lean towards the U.S. having a person who can communicate as well as he can, and motivate people as well as he can, in the office of President. Especially considering the past 8 years and how America looks to people across the world who only see Bush soundbites and communication attempts.

I think a person can probably govern by group as President, but I don't think they can communicate that way on the big stage. Of course the President has ultimate decision-making status, and their personal beliefs are prominent in that. But if they surround themselves with intelligent, experienced advisors and cabinet members, they can probably do just fine with experience that most of these candidates have.
 

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This coming from a guy who voted for Bush. Classic.

Where did I say I voted for anyone?:shrug: I just don't hear these guys with any meat in their debates. Oh we want to give healthcare to everyone.. oh really !??! How? Raise taxes to over 50%? Give me a break.
 

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I don't think that Obama can knock off the GOP candidate because of the color of his skin. Does anyone think he can?
 

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Health Care? Taxes/Why? We just ran a war on borrowed money. Our government does not need higher taxes to help folks with health care.
 

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I don't think that Obama can knock off the GOP candidate because of the color of his skin. Does anyone think he can?

I don't think it's going to matter. I think for the most part red is going to be red and blue is going to blue except for:

Iowa
Pennsylvania
Ohio
Florida (If Obama's not the nominee)
New Mexico
Nevada

If the dems can keep Pennsylvania and Iowa, then they've just got to win one of the above states to take the election

story.ec.map.jpg
 

gardenweasel

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I don't think it's going to matter. I think for the most part red is going to be red and blue is going to blue except for:

Iowa
Pennsylvania
Ohio
Florida (If Obama's not the nominee)
New Mexico
Nevada

If the dems can keep Pennsylvania and Iowa, then they've just got to win one of the above states to take the election

story.ec.map.jpg

romney`s got deep connections in michigan..romney is the one that "could" shake things up a little....

maybe..

that said,even though she throws like a girl,i still say it`s hillary...it`s been ordained....
 

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I don't think it's going to matter. I think for the most part red is going to be red and blue is going to blue except for:

Iowa
Pennsylvania
Ohio
Florida (If Obama's not the nominee)
New Mexico
Nevada

If the dems can keep Pennsylvania and Iowa, then they've just got to win one of the above states to take the election

story.ec.map.jpg

Just for the sake of clarification, Bush actually won both Iowa and New Mexico and the electoral tally was 286-252 in 2004.
 

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I see where Drudge is doing his part to help keep Hillary down this AM, with his insider, secret reports that she is considering dropping out - timing is everything, right? Right before New Hampshire, and another Hillary blast.

Hillary should stick around to see how Super Tuesday shakes out, despite what Drudge wants voters to believe. New York alone represents 4 times the combined delegates of Iowa and New Hampshire combined.
 

djv

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Folks have to be nuts to believe chit that comes from places like rush the lush or dinger drudge.
 
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