ESPN fuks up the WSOP Main Event

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unbelievable :nooo:

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By Gary Mihoces, USA TODAY
You've just made the final table in July in the Main Event at the World Series of Poker in Las Vegas. You're one of nine players with a shot at millions. You're hot.
Now you have to wait until Nov. 9 for the next hand to be dealt.

No problem, says two-time Main Event champion Johnny Chan, who welcomes the WSOP's move to delay the final table to facilitate a Nov. 11 ESPN telecast within hours of the tournament's finish.


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"Poker is a game of skill. The hands are random. ? It's how you play your hand. I don't believe in hot streaks," Chan says.

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Past final tables have been played in July, with ESPN airing its taped show in November.

Chan says the new format will allow players to connect with sponsors who "come to them and say, 'Hey, wear this patch or wear this logo. We'll give you X amount of dollars.' "

While poker pro Daniel Negreanu also applauds the timetable, he says it will make for a "different dynamic" at the final table. "You're going to see some really kind of more sophisticated play," he says.

The WSOP is a 55-event series of tournaments that begins May 30. ESPN will begin airing taped broadcasts of various events July 22. Negreanu expects players at the final table to monitor those.

"They're going to watch the ESPN broadcasts and go, 'Oh, did you notice that? When he does this, he's bluffing,' " Negreanu says.

He says players also can get coaching. He likens it to Super Bowl coaches getting two weeks to make a game plan: "Great players and amateurs alike will have an opportunity to really devise schemes and plans for how they're going to play."

In a news release issued by PokerStars, an online poker site, 2004 Main Event champion Greg Raymer says he is torn about the new format because of the potential for coaching.

"It might be huge for the continued growth of poker; however, the down side is this long gap allows the players to become completely different people between the time they make the final table and when they play it," says Raymer, a member of Team PokerStars.

For ESPN, there also will be a change in the dynamic. The title figures to be won in the early hours of Nov. 11, with the two-hour telecast of the final table set for 9 p.m. ET. "The champion will be crowned on the day of air. We're very excited about this change," ESPN senior producer Jamie Horowitz says.

ESPN will air a special Nov. 4 showing what the players have done between the July determination of the final nine and the final table.

"We want to detail that journey," Horowitz says.

What if something happens that precludes a player from playing at the final table? The WSOP has accounted for that. A player who does not appear will have his chips "blinded off," which means they will be paid into mandatory bets for each hand. When a competitor's last chip is played, he will be paid for where he finishes.

Two-time Main Event champion Doyle Brunson would prefer each player to be allowed an alternate, "somebody that's not considered to be a player with abilities above their own." Though Brunson, 74, has reservations about the delay being "overkill," he'd have no qualms about having to deal with it.

"No, I'll try to hang on another four months," he said, laughing.
 

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you make the final table and only 1 night's sleep away from a million dollar payday?

hold on, slick, you're gonna have to go back home and wait for 4 months before we have it. :shrug:

imagine having to fly back to australia or china or even europe or hell, just back to the east coast to wait for this?

man o man
 

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yea, you'd be willing to make that flight for a million dollar payday though..

Worst case scenario for this.. is someone makes the final table, and dies before 11 Nov.

I can already see it in my mind.... player "x" is an amatuer and has a commanding chip lead going in to the final table and is dominating everyone.

he dies before the final table occurs

the person who replaces him ends up busting out first at the final table

payday goes from $6 million to $1million.

the family of player x sues espn and wsop for the remaining 5 million dollars that his estate likely would have gotten.

yea I know its reaching... but it's not like their haven't been dumber lawsuits.
 

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yea, you'd be willing to make that flight for a million dollar payday though..

Worst case scenario for this.. is someone makes the final table, and dies before 11 Nov.

I can already see it in my mind.... player "x" is an amatuer and has a commanding chip lead going in to the final table and is dominating everyone.

he dies before the final table occurs

the person who replaces him ends up busting out first at the final table

payday goes from $6 million to $1million.

the family of player x sues espn and wsop for the remaining 5 million dollars that his estate likely would have gotten.

yea I know its reaching... but it's not like their haven't been dumber lawsuits.

of course i wouldn't "mind" the extra travel but the delay definitely screws up the flow of the game and if you played it out both ways there would be different order of finish for each final table.

replacement player?

What if something happens that precludes a player from playing at the final table? The WSOP has accounted for that. A player who does not appear will have his chips "blinded off," which means they will be paid into mandatory bets for each hand. When a competitor's last chip is played, he will be paid for where he finishes.
 

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ahh, sorry... reread it again and saw that replacement player was a comment from Doyle... obv he is worried about kicking over.. :D
 

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now i just read this on another forum. not confirmed yet.

:mj07: :mj07:

I actually just heard that in addition to them doing this stupid delay they are embedding in the contract that each FT'er will be sent to Las Vegas 2 months after play breaks to live in the same house as the other 8 (or 9) FT'ers in Vegas to be filmed for an ESPN reality TV Show.
 

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No way that's true about living together. But it's funny.

I bet we will see many "insurance" plans given for stakes on these people. I think this adds an unwanted element to the event.

This is evidence that poker has peaked and is probably on its way out as the "hot" thing to do. Poker will always be around, of course, but it has had its time in the spotlight, imo.
 

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I would imagine you'll hear some players say they were on their game and playing well and then got knocked off it waiting through the delay.

I'd be pissed
 

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What a focking joke! Wait till one of these guys decides to knock off or threaten another player. Or who knows what, people will do anything when that amount of $$$ is involved.

Just a horrible move by the WSOP.:shrug:
 

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also, dont have time to do the math... but with a prize pool that big... wonder how much interest Harrah's will make by letting that money sit in the bank for an extra few months?

are they going to distribute it to the players?


Unfortunately, this is a publicity stunt designed to bring Harrah's more money. think about it.. they're essentially holding the WSOP twice and drawing everyone back in town to stay there and spend money to watch the final table.

brilliant move by them, for themselves. I guess they figure if they can't make the players sit in a circus tent in 100 degree heat and play cards this is the best way to hose them.
 
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