Another neocon trick that the media fell for

gardenweasel

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Israel - hundreds of nukes, won't allow inspections. Iran - zero nukes, allows all kinds of inspections.

When is our country going to quit appeasing Israel?

are you serious?...iran allowing inspections?...like saddam did?....

when the world,through the u.n.,mandates inspections,you throw open the doors like south africa and the ukraine did...they had no problems...

you don`t dick around telling the inspectors where they can and can`t look...then it`s a sham..

so israel should disarm while iran plows forth in their quest to secure nuclear weapons?....

how many times has israel been provoked to use those weapons?...how many times have they been invaded?....terrorized?...had their civilians slaughterd by rockets and suicide bombers?....

remember saddam when he was pushed back out of kuwait after his invasion?...he lobbed scuds into israel while trying to provoke the" joos " into a response to try and instigate a full scale arab/israeli conflict...

israel sat by with their hands in their pockets...

israel`s no threat...but,their existence is threatened everyday by monsters like ahmadinnerjacket and saddam...

that`s why they NEED a deterrent...they aren`t the one looking to bring the 12th imam back from his rabbit hole with an appocalypse..

so,i guess you`re drawing a moral equivalence between a theocracy that`s pledged to annihilate israel,and a thriving democracy that threatens nobody?.....a theocracy that demands you worship their religion or you die vs a thriving democracy who`s arab citizens live better( and worship as they please) in israel than they would in iran?................

so,kill the jews?...before the "zionists" arrived, it was three guys on the beach with a fishing net...

now it's a futuristic metropolis of several million people...who`s responsible for that?..the jetsons?...
 

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No country would have any more power than the next. Work it out people.

War and intimidation is not the answer.

so we would be equal in influence,as say,sudan?....

despite all the aid and food....the money we supply....despite fighting despotism with our blood and treasure?....

scotty,you would trust a "world body"(which is the u.n.,btw)....what you described IS the u.n....in a utopian world,sans all the corruption and cronyism...

so,say,the league of arab nations,with around 57 nation states,could band together and impose sharia on the rest of the world?...

we should cede our infuence and power over to a group of desert nomads who,if not for the oil under their feet,would have provided the modern world with virtually nothing?...

all due respect,i don`t think so,partner..
 

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btw..scott,you`re beating your head against the wall trying to talk sense into spongy...he hasn`t been the same since he was hit in the head with that shovel...
 

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These little fellows like to talk. They need to stay in power. Almost like Bush in 04 with his fear campaign. There was a terrosit behind every tree. Didn't you see them. The guys that talk with out any leader ship role for a country, like Bin. Then you listen they have nothing to gain. They just want to inflict fear and pain. This turd from Iran is not going to do a thing. Why? Because it will destroy Iran. I guy like Bin has no concern.
 

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israel was created through violence and terrorism. the car bomb and letter bomb were both invented by the jews. the palestinians who were ethnically cleansed from their own land are treated worse than vick's dogs by vicious, racist israelis.

if a palestinian gives his life to fight back against his people's oppression, or if one wwii rocket is fired into israel, this outweighs in your biased mind israel destroying whole sections of cities in lebananon, and leaving a million cluster bombs as a departing f_ck-you to the civilian population.

some of us never forget that israel murderered dozens of Americans aboard the Liberty, and it was covered up by lbj and congress. when you defend israel, gardenweasel, you side with jews who murder Americans. not saying you're an America-hating stooge, gumby, just that you act like it.

in all seriousness, you should be ashamed of yourself, gardenweasel, but the loss of shame is a byproduct of Fox viewing.

israel isn't our wonderful little democratic ally, it's an extremely aggressive racist state with a proven record of murdering americans, drawing them into dangerous, unnecessary wars. on top of that, israel draws $10 million _a day_ straight from your and my american-taxpaying pockets.

stop shilling for our enemy, gardenweasel.
 

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scotty,you would trust a "world body"(which is the u.n.,btw)....what you described IS the u.n....in a utopian world,sans all the corruption and cronyism...

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The UN could not bring together a meeting with Iran, N Korea, China, Pakistan, India , Egypt, Saudi Arabia, etc.

Televise it world wide. Give these countrys a platform to speak freely about where they see the world going. If they have a complaint against a ocountry , let them air it out.

Would need a good strong moderator.

I think I would change it up but I think Glenn Beck would be a good start.

He dont pull many punchs. That would be a hoot watching that.

Any country starting wars or unable to control bombings etc would be called to task. The world force would have a army made up of all countries that would go in and restore peace and order.
 
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israel isn't our wonderful little democratic ally, it's an extremely aggressive racist state with a proven record of murdering americans, drawing them into dangerous, unnecessary wars. on top of that, israel draws $10 million _a day_ straight from your and my american-taxpaying pockets.

stop shilling for our enemy, gardenweasel.
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Is that you Hellah ?

wow. Yeh their aggressive alright. Who sends suicide bombers into resaurants. Or on buses to kill innocent woman and children.

talk about some cowards, its not ahab the arab?

All eveidence I see points to retaliation for dirty deeds done by dirty rocket launching grenade packing shitholes.

It seems simple enough to understand.
 

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the car bomb and letter bomb were both invented by the jews. the palestinians who were ethnically cleansed from their own land are treated worse than vick's dogs by vicious, racist israelis.
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The car bomb was invented in the US and was used to devastating effect by Mario Buda, an anarchist who exploded his horse-drawn wagon on Wall Street in 1920, thus prompting the title to Buda?s Wagon, a new book by often controversial and politically radical Mike Davis. Buda was the first car bomber, his progeny are many.

The Zionist Stern Gang used car bombs in the late 1940?s to blow up buildings in Palestine in an attempt to drive out the British and terrorize Palestinians. The Irgun and Haganah, underground Zionist groups labeled as terrorists by the British, quickly followed suit. The use of car bombs by Zionists represented a major step forward both in the lethality of the bombs and their use as political weapons.

However, Palestinians and Arabs soon learned the technology and responded with the same, prompting one of the founders of Israel, Ben-Gurion, to say after the bombing of a Haganah headquarters, ?I couldn?t forget that ?our? thugs and murderers had blazed this trail.
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wrong again grasshopper. If you are going to lie or just be ignorant then you have no place here.
Get your facts straight or everything you type is discounted and cast like a fart in the wind.

The description Ben-Gurion gives it speaks for itself.
 

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some of us never forget that israel murderered dozens of Americans aboard the Liberty, and it was covered up by lbj and congress. when you defend israel, gardenweasel, you side with jews who murder Americans. not saying you're an America-hating stooge, gumby, just that you act like it.
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I just read up on that incident and its disturbing.
But the question that I did not see answered was why did they want to attack the Liberty ?
If it was not mistaken identity and the flag was flying , there had to be a reason. It was not just the pilots and controllers decision. That one had to come from way up.

Must be top secret because they never said it.

And guess who was in charge of the Navy inquiry into this quick and swift investigation ?

Admiral McCain who seemed to squash it.

Yeh you guessed it. Sometimes favors are a long time in coming back around.

Our politics and favor crap is pathetic.
 

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and leaving a million cluster bombs as a departing f_ck-you to the civilian population.
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dont fire rockets into civilian areas and you dont have to worry about it.

They were giving them something to do besides
plotting rocket attacks.

It seems reasonable.
 

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btw, scooter, a wagon is not a car.

jews invented the car bomb and the letter bomb - fact. jews are the OT, original terrorists. they could have moved into palestine peacefully. bought land. built institutions - done the legwork. they did some of that, but they did a lot more lying, murdering and terrorizing. so they ain't got nothing to complain about when the natives defend themselves.

you're way out of your league, dingleboy.
 

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btw, scooter, a wagon is not a car.

jews invented the car bomb and the letter bomb - fact. jews are the OT, original terrorists. they could have moved into palestine peacefully. bought land. built institutions - done the legwork. they did some of that, but they did a lot more lying, murdering and terrorizing. so they ain't got nothing to complain about when the natives defend themselves.

you're way out of your league, dingleboy.

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dingleboy huh. oh dont get me started.

natives defending themselves. I guess theirs two sides to every story.

Explain to me having to defend themselves.

what started all this killing ?

the one thing that started this unrest ?
 

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israel murders americans.

scooter mcdingle explains it.

seems simple enough.
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guess you have no clue then :0corn

and that was 1945 or something. Got any recent examples ?

I hate when I am trying to learn new things and people just dumb out on me.

maybe kosar will come in and explain it.
 
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how do you always end up on the wrong side of things :shrug:

If I'm opposite you I can be sure I'm on the right track. Sorta like I did with some popular cappers around here, I politically fade you.
 

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. jews are the OT, original terrorists. they could have moved into palestine peacefully. bought land. built institutions - done the legwork. they did some of that, but they did a lot more lying, murdering and terrorizing.
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yeh and left to their own accord the palestinians have done what ?

no electric, no gas, no stores, no food, no jobs, no economy

please jewish people ....help us help us.

They are incapable of building their own state, thats part of the whole problem. The only thing they know is firing rockets and suicide bombs.
 
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