Chinese products ?

[vinnie]

Are we Americans as dumb as we appear or is it that we just do not think? While the Chinese, knowingly and intentionally, export inferior products and dangerous toys and goods to be sold in American markets, the media wrings its hands and criticizes the Bush Administration for perceived errors. Yet 70% of Americans believe that the trading privileges afforded to the Chinese should be suspended. Well, duh..why do you need the government to suspend trading privileges? DO IT YOURSELF!!


Simply look on the bottom of every product you buy, and if it says 'Made in China' or 'PRC' (and that now includes Hong Kong), simply choose another product or none at all. You will be amazed at how dependent you are on Chinese products, however you will be equally amazed at what you can do without. Who needs plastic eggs to celebrate Easter? If you must have eggs, use real ones and benefit some American farmer. Easter is just an example, the point is. do not wait for the government to act. Just go ahead and assume control on your own.

If 200 million Americans refuse to buy just $20 each of Chinese goods, that's a billion dollar trade imbalance resolved in our favor...fast!! The downside? Some American businesses will feel a temporary pinch from having foreign stockpiles of inventory. ** Downside ??


The solution ?

Let's give them fair warning and send our own message. We will not implement this UNTIL June 4, and we will only continue it until July 4. That is only one month of trading losses, but it will hit the Chinese for 1/12th of the total, or 8%, of their American exports. Then they will at least have to ask themselves if the benefits of their arrogance and lawlessness were worth it.

Remember, June 4 to July 4.

Send this to everybody you know.

Show them we are Americans

and NOBODY can take us for granted.

If we can't live without cheap Chinese

goods for one month out of our lives,

WE DESERVE WHAT WE GET!

Pass it on America !!!

got this in my e-mail I think smurphy sent it :142smilie

 

[dawgball]

I got this forward today, too.

About as dumb of an idea as the "refuse to buy gas from Exxon and Shell" one... :nono:

:0corn

 

[StevieD]

I got this forward today, too.

About as dumb of an idea as the "refuse to buy gas from Exxon and Shell" one... :nono:

:0corn

Just wondering what do you see dumb about it? I don't know about the numbers or the length of time but I would be all for a high tax on Chinese goods and a boycott. It not like these guys are our friends or anything. They are our sworn enemies.

 

[dawgball]

I guess if you think it's smart, you should participate.

I'm not against us dealing with the situation more aggressively as a nation's trading policy perspective. I'm all for that.

You not buying the smoking monkey out of a vending machine for a month is not going to make a drop in the bucket. Even if you and all your 2 million internet friends halted the monkeys.

What I love about ideas like this is that it will be the same people bitching about high prices somewhere else. We could eliminate our jobless claims and trading woes immediately if we are willing to pay for American labor.

Can't cry about high prices and not be willing to back it up with your own wallet.

 

[StevieD]

I guess if you think it's smart, you should participate.

I'm not against us dealing with the situation more aggressively as a nation's trading policy perspective. I'm all for that.

You not buying the smoking monkey out of a vending machine for a month is not going to make a drop in the bucket. Even if you and all your 2 million internet friends halted the monkeys.

What I love about ideas like this is that it will be the same people bitching about high prices somewhere else. We could eliminate our jobless claims and trading woes immediately if we are willing to pay for American labor.

Can't cry about high prices and not be willing to back it up with your own wallet.

Like I said I don't understand the numbers. But I see nothing wrong with boycotting Chinese products. As for the cost of American products I would put a cap on CEO salaries.

 

[Agent 0659]

Where are you supposed to find American made products?:mj07: Seriously?:shrug:

 

[Nosigar]

As for the cost of American products I would put a cap on CEO salaries.

I have no problem with the China voluntary boycott, could do some good, but the statement above it is, well.... ...

Carry on. No big surprise here.
Why don't we put a cap on what the G_Damn commies in our own government can steal form us?

 

[smurphy]

got this in my e-mail I think smurphy sent it :142smilie

:nono: kurby

 

[IntenseOperator]

if you gots some free time

http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/77/walmart.html

 

[luckyshirt]

Guess most of the professional athletes

Guess most of the professional athletes

Will be naked or shoeless for the month.

:mj07:

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

Just wondering what do you see dumb about it? I don't know about the numbers or the length of time but I would be all for a high tax on Chinese goods and a boycott. It not like these guys are our friends or anything. They are our sworn enemies.

Hmm what is it about you all that think higher taxes is answer to everything--

heard similiar rant years ago on Japan and auto industry---
--but everyone was driving/buying imports--because they were cheaper--while the unions were telling auto worker to walk out for more bennies and higher wages--you saw where that got UAW--10 years later they're still walking with no jobs.

If you don't like foreign products--don't buy em-
got more news for ya--Pharmicutical companies are starting to outsource a lot services R&D especially overseas--and it just the beginning--if you think taxes and mandates on corps don't trickle down to consumer you crazy.

You want to put mandates-raises taxes ect on corps --then when they have to either raise price of product you complain about prices.

If we raise import taxes --you think countries won't reciprocate on our exports--which in turn makes our products unaffordable--equalling loss of jobs-cutbacks.

Taxes are a necessary evil not a solution/open checkbook to everything--except to those exempt from them.

 

[AR182]

As for the cost of American products I would put a cap on CEO salaries.

stevie...

you can't be serious about this...can you ?

 

[dawgball]

stevie...

you can't be serious about this...can you ?

It's the easy answer. People see someone making millions, and they want to take from them.

As stated in above post, if you are willing to take it on the chin (or wallet) then buy all products only produced in US. You can find them, but I promise you won't like the prices.

It's a catch-22.

I'm not necessarily against a personal (or group) boycott of Chinese product, but I think it's stupid. It's not doing anything to further real change.

 

[StevieD]

Yes I am very serious about this. Not only CEO's but all executives. Their salaries should be no more than 20% or so above the average worker. This would create sort or a reverse trickle down effect. We do not gain anything on the extra money these greedy bastards make. But that money could be put back into the company and into employees pockets. A quick example, it could be used to pay for employees health insurance. That would put a couple of hundred dollars a month extra in the employees paycheck. Therefore putting more money into the economy. This is already being done at some companies.

 

[dawgball]

Not only CEO's but all executives. Their salaries should be no more than 20% or so above the average worker.

If this is the case, then no skilled laborer should make more than 20% more than minimum wage. Why not go that far?

Great plan. Nobody can make more than about $11 an hour. Let's do it.

Where's the bread line?

 

[StevieD]

If this is the case, then no skilled laborer should make more than 20% more than minimum wage. Why not go that far?

Great plan. Nobody can make more than about $11 an hour. Let's do it.

Where's the bread line?

No not at all. The bread line as you call it is coming on strong. have you noticed the foreclosures? Isn't your boy Bush sending everyone 600 bucks for a tank of heating fuel or something. Great plan. Your plan is to bail out the "EXPERTS" who gave the bad loans. Not only that but you like to reward them with millions of dollars in salary and perks and when they screw up say opps we better give them a golden parachuet. talk about a great plan.

 

[dawgball]

No not at all. The bread line as you call it is coming on strong. have you noticed the foreclosures? Isn't your boy Bush sending everyone 600 bucks for a tank of heating fuel or something. Great plan. Your plan is to bail out the "EXPERTS" who gave the bad loans. Not only that but you like to reward them with millions of dollars in salary and perks and when they screw up say opps we better give them a golden parachuet. talk about a great plan.

I'm really not sure how this has anything to do with this conversation...

Bush = my boy :142smilie

The conversation was originally about the validity of individuals "boycotting" Chinese products (which is dumb). Somehow, you bring in the sub-prime loans, the economic "stimulus" package, and overpaid CEOs and executives.

I guess we should end this thread and go to the political forum. That's usually where wild tangents are free to roam...

And if you look at the majority of my posts in the political arena, you will see that I pretty much despise the entire political system. The two party system in its current state is absolutely useless because both parties want the same thing: bigger government.

But that's for another discussion in another forum on another day.

To end: I may not agree with your opinion on this (I don't), but that does not mean much to me. Opinions are like assholes... I do not want to come off as personally attacking you.

I think a good general rule is that if a forwarded email succeeds in charging up emotions, it was probably written with the complete intention of doing so... and it's probably well spun bullshit.

 

[StevieD]

I'm really not sure how this has anything to do with this conversation...

Bush = my boy :142smilie

The conversation was originally about the validity of individuals "boycotting" Chinese products (which is dumb). Somehow, you bring in the sub-prime loans, the economic "stimulus" package, and overpaid CEOs and executives.

I guess we should end this thread and go to the political forum. That's usually where wild tangents are free to roam...

And if you look at the majority of my posts in the political arena, you will see that I pretty much despise the entire political system. The two party system in its current state is absolutely useless because both parties want the same thing: bigger government.

But that's for another discussion in another forum on another day.

To end: I may not agree with your opinion on this (I don't), but that does not mean much to me. Opinions are like assholes... I do not want to come off as personally attacking you.

I think a good general rule is that if a forwarded email succeeds in charging up emotions, it was probably written with the complete intention of doing so... and it's probably well spun bullshit.

"It's the easy answer. People see someone making millions, and they want to take from them."

Sorry if I took that as a personal attack.

The idea is not to feed so much to the top of the company. The country does not gain anything if these guys make $20 million or 100 million. But if you spread that 80 million to people who would actually spend it, it would make a difference.

 

[Mags]

"It's the easy answer. People see someone making millions, and they want to take from them."

Sorry if I took that as a personal attack.

The idea is not to feed so much to the top of the company. The country does not gain anything if these guys make $20 million or 100 million. But if you spread that 80 million to people who would actually spend it, it would make a difference.

Stevie - your email is scaring me. Your comments are the basis of communism - let everyone make the same money, no matter of their skill, ability or desire.

Aren't people "worth" whatever someone is willing to pay you? Is that how capitalism works?

There may still be some communist or socialist countries out there that you could move to. That type of society sounds like it will fit your needs much better than the good 'ole USA.

JMHO

 

[StevieD]

Stevie - your email is scaring me. Your comments are the basis of communism - let everyone make the same money, no matter of their skill, ability or desire.

Aren't people "worth" whatever someone is willing to pay you? Is that how capitalism works?

There may still be some communist or socialist countries out there that you could move to. That type of society sounds like it will fit your needs much better than the good 'ole USA.

JMHO

No not at all communist. Really more democratic and free market than we have now if you think about it. Why should all the money go to a few indivisuals pockets? I am not saying that everyone makes the same. I simply said that I would limit, or put a cap on the salaries of the top execs. These guys can still make millions in stocks if the company soars. And isn't that the American way? What we have become is some kind of a feudal system where the land owner gets everything and he "trickles down" a little to the serfs. Just trying to open something up for discussion.