Anyone still wonder if these clowns dont know gambling is involved?

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who reviews a fking play with :00 left on the clock and the game over with the correct team still winning based on the last play???

Did anyone even see an illegal forward pass?
both looked backwards to me (the second one not even close)
Was their even a flag thrown?

that fking crew did everything they could to keep pitt from winning + covering, right up until the last play.
 

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No doubt in my mind that game was fixed so Pitt didnt cover the 5.

Willy's TD called back & then that ending...please.

Why was it even reviewed if the game was over & it didnt affect the winner or loser??
 

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i have to see it again. i only saw it once and they switched to 60 minutes but i'm not one to blame refs.

i'm biased; i cant fucking stand the steelers.

the game should have ended 11-10 not on some goofy assed play at the end.

i'll be honest with my opinion after i see it again. i'm sure espn will have it for a couple days :D
 

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Takes a lot to cry fix in an NFL game. NFL Security with FBI involvment monitors everything so closely,this ain't a MAC game or some shitty college conference. No way, no how. Plus the refs got the call right anways. :rolleyes:
 

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i have to see it again. i only saw it once and they switched to 60 minutes but i'm not one to blame refs.

i'm biased; i cant fucking stand the steelers.

the game should have ended 11-10 not on some goofy assed play at the end.

i'll be honest with my opinion after i see it again. i'm sure espn will have it for a couple days :D

Good pt. the game should of ended at 11-10 anyway,so why complain about a play that didnt matter regardless.
 

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Is anybody on this forum even remotely retarded enough to think that touchdown shouldn't have counted? This is the worst call I have ever seen in my 25 years of following football.
And for anybody thinking I lost money on this game, you're wrong. I'm a bookie and made a bunch. But after this shit, I feel like I'm stealing and ready to get out of the biz. It was that bad.
 

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can't wait to see it again. must have been horrible..
 

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Is anybody on this forum even remotely retarded enough to think that touchdown shouldn't have counted? This is the worst call I have ever seen in my 25 years of following football.
And for anybody thinking I lost money on this game, you're wrong. I'm a bookie and made a bunch. But after this shit, I feel like I'm stealing and ready to get out of the biz. It was that bad.

I understand gambling is a business,a big business.
My point is has the game lost its rooting enterest?
Does anyone care that there hometown team won.Thats my point.

The play had no direct effect on the outcome of the game.Only on the wagering outcome.
Im not naive ,I understand the gambling aspect.
Cant anyone watch a game for the sport itself anymore??
 

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yep - that was the type of play that makes me question betting. Sure, the game ended as it should have 11-10, but the bottom line is if The Chargers want to do the circus crap at the end to get a cheap TD, then prepare for this type of thing happening... sick
 

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I understand gambling is a business,a big business.
My point is has the game lost its rooting enterest?
Does anyone care that there hometown team won.Thats my point.

The play had no direct effect on the outcome of the game.Only on the wagering outcome.
Im not naive ,I understand the gambling aspect.
Cant anyone watch a game for the sport itself anymore??

You are asking the wrong crowd.

Go to Steelerfans dot com and you will find plenty of people that aren't even thinking about that play.
 

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yep - that was the type of play that makes me question betting. Sure, the game ended as it should have 11-10, but the bottom line is if The Chargers want to do the circus crap at the end to get a cheap TD, then prepare for this type of thing happening... sick

Good pt.The TD should of stood ,no question.
Last year on the Tyree reception great catch.
To Bad the offensive line was holding like crazy,with no call....what ya gonna do....:shrug:
 

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I've been seeing a ton of posts at multiple forums on the net about this - and can't count the number swearing off the NFL - and how they are done betting on football etc. Look - the big thing is if a person is swearing off betting on football because of a "fix" - they have bigger issues than the "fixes" themselves. If people are losing week in and week out - it's on themselves. I've beat the spread for years - and yes I've benefited from games (see Stanford yesterday, Chargers today) - and I've lost a handful of "shady" games. Don't get me wrong - as I said before the TD should have counted. The thing is I just think it's funny how people come out of the woodwork when a shady game happens, and think that's why they have lost or are losing long run. The biggest thing I've told people who are losing is then they have a gift - simply fade yourself. If you can only pick 44% winners - then fade yourself and pick 56% winners, and grind out small profits.

By the way there is one article on sportsillustrated/cnn right now where the ref was quoted in it. The ref said "yes we should have let the play go through" - meaning the TD. Only article I've found about it - article closed with something about how the call affected the spread since the Steelers were 5 point favorites.

Obviously I'm always a fan of getting the calls right. I think Pitt should have covered that game, and if they were to change the result now or tomorrow or whatever (don't think they can or have ever done this, but first time for everything right) I'd be fine w/ taking a loss.

I've been on the right side of 2 last second scores tha last 2 days. Somewhere down the line, maybe next week, maybe next year, I'll have 2 plays like this go against me.

The thing is if people think you can't win at sports betting - because of worrying about fixes - then you just shouldn't be betting. I'm sure things go on behind close doors and I do think a game can be influenced by refs. But the fact remains, if you don't know about what side the "fix is in" - you'll most likely win 50% and lose 50% of those.

All i know is if fixes are going on on a regular basis, then why have I been able to beat the game long run? I have concluded it's because most games aren't involved in questionable endings. I win enough games because I find the right side over time.

It is unfortunate that something like today's Pitt game had to happen - I mean the thing is they took time to review, but seemed to rush the final verdict. But if you think of the long run picture - you don't see many games ending like this. Just my opinion. Everyone is entitled to theirs.

GL as always.
 

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chris collinsworth addressed it at halftime...said it was a bad call,the replay was wrong and he and costas laughed about the gambling aspect of the call...

it is what it is...

curious where this "you can`t advance a lateral/backward pass" myth came from?...

college foots maybe?... cause the refs clearly stated it was a "forward pass"....which wasn`t even close...
 

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I've been seeing a ton of posts at multiple forums on the net about this - and can't count the number swearing off the NFL - and how they are done betting on football etc. Look - the big thing is if a person is swearing off betting on football because of a "fix" - they have bigger issues than the "fixes" themselves. If people are losing week in and week out - it's on themselves. I've beat the spread for years - and yes I've benefited from games (see Stanford yesterday, Chargers today) - and I've lost a handful of "shady" games. Don't get me wrong - as I said before the TD should have counted. The thing is I just think it's funny how people come out of the woodwork when a shady game happens, and think that's why they have lost or are losing long run. The biggest thing I've told people who are losing is then they have a gift - simply fade yourself. If you can only pick 44% winners - then fade yourself and pick 56% winners, and grind out small profits.

By the way there is one article on sportsillustrated/cnn right now where the ref was quoted in it. The ref said "yes we should have let the play go through" - meaning the TD. Only article I've found about it - article closed with something about how the call affected the spread since the Steelers were 5 point favorites.

Obviously I'm always a fan of getting the calls right. I think Pitt should have covered that game, and if they were to change the result now or tomorrow or whatever (don't think they can or have ever done this, but first time for everything right) I'd be fine w/ taking a loss.

I've been on the right side of 2 last second scores tha last 2 days. Somewhere down the line, maybe next week, maybe next year, I'll have 2 plays like this go against me.

The thing is if people think you can't win at sports betting - because of worrying about fixes - then you just shouldn't be betting. I'm sure things go on behind close doors and I do think a game can be influenced by refs. But the fact remains, if you don't know about what side the "fix is in" - you'll most likely win 50% and lose 50% of those.

All i know is if fixes are going on on a regular basis, then why have I been able to beat the game long run? I have concluded it's because most games aren't involved in questionable endings. I win enough games because I find the right side over time.

It is unfortunate that something like today's Pitt game had to happen - I mean the thing is they took time to review, but seemed to rush the final verdict. But if you think of the long run picture - you don't see many games ending like this. Just my opinion. Everyone is entitled to theirs.

GL as always.

Im not questioning your post ,but I get a kick out of people who say I can beat them ,Like thats the norm.Its not the norm.

These people would not be in business ,if the majority won.Yes I know about the vig,but that goes only so far,as to explain how Vegas wins on a consistent basis.
 

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Im not questioning your post ,but I get a kick out of people who say I can beat them ,Like thats the norm.Its not the norm.

These people would not be in business ,if the majority won.Yes I know about the vig,but that goes only so far,as to explain how Vegas wins on a consistent basis.

You are correct - the majority lose. Probably 80-90% of all bettors lose. Most don't even care that they lose. Most don't put in any time playing high % plays. Just saying I have beaten the game. Not without putting in time and effort. It can be done, most just don't have the discipline to beat the game long run.

One thing I see posted alot though is people always think they are on the wrong side of these fixes - or they say "well most of the money must have been on Pitt today". Well, if these fixes are always where the money is -then follow the money - and go against it.
 
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