recovery.gov

[DOGS THAT BARK]

Wheres the beef???

http://www.recovery.gov/

President Obama Launches New Website ? Recovery.Gov
Submitted by vaidyanathan on Mon, 2009-01-26 13:55. economic recovery government accountability government transparency Obama
President Obama has launched a new website, Recovery.Gov that people can use to see how their tax money is being spent. He stated that it is ?an unprecedented effort to root out waste, inefficiency, and unnecessary spending in our government.? As of now, there is not much on the website but be sure to check it out after the passing of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act. To learn more about it, read his weekly address that he delivered on January 24.
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Thought if he's in such a hurry he'd have this broken down--maybe others already having it broken down is the prob.

--and thought we might find something on the S-Chips he just passed--wonder if he'll let us know that "the children" include those in late 20's--families making up to $80,000 in some area's and illegal aliens--or will he just con us with "the children" as he tacks on another ongoing-escalating social plan?

 

[gjn23]

YES WE CAN!

 

[Chadman]

So, you're criticizing him for starting a website to allow us to track where the money goes after the passage of the bill, before the bill has passed?

Priceless.

I know... I'll just go to one of the other Presidential websites that tracked and monitored and reported back to us where the money went. Oh... wait... The Google doesn't seem to have any linked?
:shrug:

 

[smurphy]

Chad, they don't even know what they're ragging on anymore. Like you said before, it seems it's just an endless river of bitching about nothing. They don't like Obama and will not give him a chance.

 

[dawgball]

So, you're criticizing him for starting a website to allow us to track where the money goes after the passage of the bill, before the bill has passed?

Priceless.

I know... I'll just go to one of the other Presidential websites that tracked and monitored and reported back to us where the money went. Oh... wait... The Google doesn't seem to have any linked?
:shrug:

I love "The Google"

:142smilie

 

[jer-z jock]

Obama and his camp playing the cards...

Obama and his camp playing the cards...

Just as I heard on Sirius Satellite when Obama was on a town hall speaking type deal, before the election which made me ask this question:

Sharing the responsibilty

He actually is letting THE PEOPLE be part of it (even if its in a small capacity) to be able to know or somewhat know is way better then just believing a bunch of liars and crooks--I loved this idea then and I hope he does broaden it in a way that we can see the bills or legislation before they are passed and voted upon.....guess what all of you Obama haters.....CHANGE IS COMING:00hour

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

So, you're criticizing him for starting a website to allow us to track where the money goes after the passage of the bill, before the bill has passed?

Priceless.

I know... I'll just go to one of the other Presidential websites that tracked and monitored and reported back to us where the money went. Oh... wait... The Google doesn't seem to have any linked?
:shrug:

I see Chad you don't care what they pass as long as they tell you its good for you--then worry about it

I'm from the show me state--I'd like to know a little about where the monies going to determine if good for for me.

Do you ever ask yourself why everyone else is coming out with the details pork in this 600 page program and you don't hear anything from Obama camp--

Evidently public isn't as easily duped as they thought--popularity on this plan has dropped like a rock--eg Obwanna getting panties in wad now-trying to act like a few days of going into details and correct mistakes will put us past point on no return.

---and what about his nanny state s Chip--its been passed wheres the scoop on the grads--$80,000 households--illegals qualifying???????????????
--I believe that fits transparency of my tax dollars being redistributed--how "stimulating"

 

[THE KOD]

I know... I'll just go to one of the other Presidential websites that tracked and monitored and reported back to us where the money went. Oh... wait... The Google doesn't seem to have any linked?
:shrug:

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we know where it went. Bush and Cheneys pockets

Change we can believe in.

thank God Obama has kept the country safe from terrorists for 3 weeks now.

 

[gardenweasel]

Chad, they don't even know what they're ragging on anymore. Like you said before, it seems it's just an endless river of bitching about nothing. They don't like Obama and will not give him a chance.

$50 million for the National Endowment for the Arts
$380 million in the Senate bill for the Women, Infants and Children program
$300 million for grants to combat violence against women
$2 billion for federal child-care block grants
$6 billion for university building projects
$15 billion for boosting Pell Grant college scholarships
$4 billion for job-training programs, including $1.2 billion for ?youths? up to the age of 24


*$1 billion for community-development block grants
$4.2 billion for ?neighborhood stabilization activities?
?*
/i.e. ACORN

$650 million for digital-TV coupons; $90 million to educate ?vulnerable populations
150 million for the Smithsonian
$34 million to renovate the Department of Commerce headquarters
$500 million for improvement projects for National Institutes of Health facilities
$44 million for repairs to Department of Agriculture headquarters
$350 million for Agriculture Department computers
$88 million to help move the Public Health Service into a new building
$448 million for constructing a new Homeland Security Department headquarters
$600 million to convert the federal auto fleet to hybrids
$450 million for NASA (carve-out for ?climate-research missions?)
$600 million for NOAA (carve-out for ?climate modeling?)
$1 billion for the Census Bureau

i can put more up if you`d like...this isn`t a stimulus package...it`s a shopping spree consisting of old democrat pork barrel projects that they couldn`t get through during the bush adm.....

"but, but, if we don't pass my porkapalooza RIGHT THIS SECOND, WE'RE ALL GONNA CROAK!"......

i just hope that pelosi doesn`t hear that "500 million iranians lose their jobs every month"......next thing you know we`ll be bailing out iran...

:rimshot http://www.instantrimshot.com/

.lol...

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

Wow Weasie--where did all the skeptics go--

apears their only rebuttal is "no attacks in 3 weeks"


Heard him on his biggest and scariest con last night at Dem meeting--

Did you hear--the global warmimg lead up--on saving americans billions by changing from fossil fuel--to greenie tech?

Now we've had this tech for decades and the only thing that has kept it on back burners so far is it has been too costly--so if we believe obwama they are miraculously going to find way to make it cheaper than fossil fuels in next 2 years?
Hmmm I would say that would be wonderful--if their plan to make it affordable was not artificially raising cost of fossil fuels via taxes-carbon credits etc. Regardless of which method they use it will not save ameicans billions it will cost them billions more--and thats not even including cost of "taxpayor" to fund these programs based on hype and no conclusive evidence of global warming--errrr make that climate change now since temps on last decade are out.

oops just about neglected the Obwana transparency.
Even the main steam media have turned on him for. They are all beginning to see him as the great grifter.
Check this out from ABC reporter--a classic
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2009/02/gibbs_gets_testy_with_reporter.html

 

[THE KOD]

apears their only rebuttal is "no attacks in 3 weeks"


Did you hear--the global warmimg lead up--on saving americans billions by changing from fossil fuel--to greenie tech?

Now we've had this tech for decades and the only thing that has kept it on back burners so far is it has been too costly--

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Only reason tech not gone to for 8 yrs is Bush and Cheney sucking arab oil sticks. you know it and I know it. Big money there with Bush and Saudis.

what a joke you are.

you got to admit you feel as safe from terrorists that when Cheney was running the show.

and all Dicky can do is run storys.... watch out watch out , its not safe .... Obama is changing our torture chambers.

:142smilie

 

[MadJack]

apears their only rebuttal is "no attacks in 3 weeks"

that's not a rebuttal, wayne, it's a JOKE. that was actually your guy's only rebuttal for the great job Bush did for this country.

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

Can we take 3 polls on that -till we get the right answer

--Maybe I need to give O a little credit--how about Fannie/Freddie changes today--ya think these new quidelines will correct the subprime lending that got us into this mess--since "your guys" Todd Barney and crew are still at the helm


http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aTu9HA5cZgQ4

Fannie bends the rules. In an effort to break the logjam in mortgage refinancing and allow homeowners to take advantage of record low rates, Fannie Mae (FNM) is bending the rules - dropping credit-score requirements, ignoring income-documentation standards, and waiving the need for appraisals. A Fannie Mae spokesman said the program 'will streamline' refinancing 'for potentially millions of current mortgage holders.'

 

[StevieD]

Can we take 3 polls on that -till we get the right answer

--Maybe I need to give O a little credit--how about Fannie/Freddie changes today--ya think these new quidelines will correct the subprime lending that got us into this mess--since "your guys" Todd Barney and crew are still at the helm

.'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNqQx7sjoS8

Seems to refute everything DTB says in Bush's own words. On video yet! :142smilie

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNqQx7sjoS8

Seems to refute everything DTB says in Bush's own words. On video yet! :142smilie

Fannie bends the rules. In an effort to break the logjam in mortgage refinancing and allow homeowners to take advantage of record low rates, Fannie Mae (FNM) is bending the rules - dropping credit-score requirements, ignoring income-documentation standards, and waiving the need for appraisals. A Fannie Mae spokesman said the program 'will streamline' refinancing 'for potentially millions of current mortgage holders.'

CHANGE YOU CAN BELIEVE IN

:00x7

 

[StevieD]

Fannie bends the rules. In an effort to break the logjam in mortgage refinancing and allow homeowners to take advantage of record low rates, Fannie Mae (FNM) is bending the rules - dropping credit-score requirements, ignoring income-documentation standards, and waiving the need for appraisals. A Fannie Mae spokesman said the program 'will streamline' refinancing 'for potentially millions of current mortgage holders.'

CHANGE YOU CAN BELIEVE IN

:00x7

Sounds alot like what Bush says in the video!

Face it the Bush Bailout was done backwards. Trickle down doesn't work.

 

[Chadman]

I see Chad you don't care what they pass as long as they tell you its good for you--then worry about it

I'm from the show me state--I'd like to know a little about where the monies going to determine if good for for me.

Do you ever ask yourself why everyone else is coming out with the details pork in this 600 page program and you don't hear anything from Obama camp--

Evidently public isn't as easily duped as they thought--popularity on this plan has dropped like a rock--eg Obwanna getting panties in wad now-trying to act like a few days of going into details and correct mistakes will put us past point on no return.

---and what about his nanny state s Chip--its been passed wheres the scoop on the grads--$80,000 households--illegals qualifying???????????????
--I believe that fits transparency of my tax dollars being redistributed--how "stimulating"

As I have mentioned more than once since this package has been promoted, I have concerns with much of it. Especially what looks like unnecessary pork projects. I would love to know where each project came from - if anyone can show a list of that, I would appreciate it. Again - it is incumbent upon each of us to rise up and contact our own representatives about what we don't want or like - but the truth is, most people are happy when the money comes to projects in their own state, and very few can agree on what is important or needed. Until we can look at each individual area, and express our opinions about it beforehand, then how are we being represented well, other than by our original votes for the people?

I think the Website shown by you appears to be a start, supposedly there will be information and listings about where the money goes, when, why, etc. At least that is something, and that was my point. You appeared to be making light of it, and I think the act in and of itself is a measure of change and hopefully future accountability.

You your exact points to me - yes, I do care what they pass, and I know I'm knowledgeable about the subject matter and theories to know that what I hear is not always gospel, or even true. So, I take exception to your point. By the way, I spent my formative years until age 30 or so in the Show-Me State, so you have nothing on me there, either. Perhaps this is why I don't just allow the hook into my lip when it comes to the past administration, their policies, and their antics - especially when they told me that what they did was good for me, and to not worry about what they were doing. Clearly, I know much of that was not true.

I think an interesting point you made shows a lot about how you look at life in general. You want to know - always - where money is going to know if it's good FOR YOU. That is always the important thing when it comes to right-leaners, and outweighs anything else. Something has to be clear cut to benefit you directly, for it to be something you can agree with. The greater good, or something that benefits that, always is secondary to your well being. I'd submit that isn't the way I was raised in the Show-Me State, I was raised to care about others in most cases nearly as much as myself. To each their own, but I am certainly comfortable with my outlook on life.

I think it's important to note the compromises Obama has made and his attempts to talk to conservatives, and bending to their objections on some things. This is a refreshing change to the last administration, which was dismissive, elusive, private, self-serving, egotistical, and essentially told everyone to go "&*#^" themselves. I think the most dramatic example of this is the initial legislation worked on and proposed by the Bush administration - the secret Energy meetings which prevented any democrats at all from being a part of formulation of the direction our country was going on an extremely important sector. And we can easily see the results of that, who benefited, and who suffered.

I'd be careful about who you defend when you wear the "Show-Me State" banner, Wayne.

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

As I have mentioned more than once since this package has been promoted, I have concerns with much of it. Especially what looks like unnecessary pork projects. I would love to know where each project came from - if anyone can show a list of that, I would appreciate it. Again - it is incumbent upon each of us to rise up and contact our own representatives about what we don't want or like - but the truth is, most people are happy when the money comes to projects in their own state, and very few can agree on what is important or needed. Until we can look at each individual area, and express our opinions about it beforehand, then how are we being represented well, other than by our original votes for the people?

I think the Website shown by you appears to be a start, supposedly there will be information and listings about where the money goes, when, why, etc. At least that is something, and that was my point. You appeared to be making light of it, and I think the act in and of itself is a measure of change and hopefully future accountability.

You your exact points to me - yes, I do care what they pass, and I know I'm knowledgeable about the subject matter and theories to know that what I hear is not always gospel, or even true. So, I take exception to your point. By the way, I spent my formative years until age 30 or so in the Show-Me State, so you have nothing on me there, either. Perhaps this is why I don't just allow the hook into my lip when it comes to the past administration, their policies, and their antics - especially when they told me that what they did was good for me, and to not worry about what they were doing. Clearly, I know much of that was not true.

I think an interesting point you made shows a lot about how you look at life in general. You want to know - always - where money is going to know if it's good FOR YOU. That is always the important thing when it comes to right-leaners, and outweighs anything else. Something has to be clear cut to benefit you directly, for it to be something you can agree with. The greater good, or something that benefits that, always is secondary to your well being. I'd submit that isn't the way I was raised in the Show-Me State, I was raised to care about others in most cases nearly as much as myself. To each their own, but I am certainly comfortable with my outlook on life.

I think it's important to note the compromises Obama has made and his attempts to talk to conservatives, and bending to their objections on some things. This is a refreshing change to the last administration, which was dismissive, elusive, private, self-serving, egotistical, and essentially told everyone to go "&*#^" themselves. I think the most dramatic example of this is the initial legislation worked on and proposed by the Bush administration - the secret Energy meetings which prevented any democrats at all from being a part of formulation of the direction our country was going on an extremely important sector. And we can easily see the results of that, who benefited, and who suffered.

I'd be careful about who you defend when you wear the "Show-Me State" banner, Wayne.

I find it interesting that considering your benevolence--that you have continuely supported Dem candidates that stiff charity while bitching bout Cheney and GW who have given more than any of them--maybe you could explain.
We had thread on compasrisons of charitble comparisons if you'd like I'll bring it back up--as we seem to turn out of rebuttals once the facts were put up? I can certainly sleep well at night knowing I give more to Humane Society on Christmas than your boys Obama-Kerry-Gore have given to charity in a year--not that I'm that generous its just that these grifters are that big a deadbeat--when it involves their funds and not someone else's.

--back to transparency issue


President Obama has twice violated one of his campaign pledges about transparency. Wednesday he signed into law the State Children's Health and Insurance Program ? or SCHIP? three hours after the house approved the bill. Last week he signed the Lily Ledbetter Fair Pay Act two days after it was approved and that bill was not posted on the White House Web site until after he signed it.

But the Obama campaign Web site states, "As president, Obama will not sign any non-emergency bill without giving the American public an opportunity to review and comment on the white house website for five days."

:0corn

 

[THE KOD]

that's not a rebuttal, wayne, it's a JOKE. that was actually your guy's only rebuttal for the great job Bush did for this country.

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exactly Jack

dtb dont like some of my jokes

it sure served his purposes when Bush was keeping us safe though:142smilie

 

[THE KOD]

agree. The Republicans have their own pork in the stimulus bill, namely about $125 billion in loan guarantees for nuclear energy.
Fund research for nuclear and clean coal. Give the real money to renewables that are ready to be built now, like solar thermal, PV and wind.

Imagine what that much in loans would do to boost the buildout of solar thermal with heat storage in the deserts. We might be able to build 50-100 GW of this, before the first 1-2 GW new nuclear plant goes online in a decade or so. Same can be said for other renewable projects.

And those same Republicans are calling funding for efficiency in buildings and cars "pork". They aren't pork, they are exactly what we should be investing in. Solar and wind will create far more jobs than coal or nuclear. Efficiency is the best bang for the buck and has the largest potential for cutting emissions. They of course don't believe in global warming, but would rather trust the opinion of the quacks that the fossil fuel industry pays, than the overwhelminng scientific consensus. In Senate hearings, Senator Inhofe gave more credence to science fiction writer Michael Crighton, than to the testimony of the leading scientists at NASA. GISS and the IPCC, who he more or less dismissed outright, since his mind was already made up.

Only 21% of Republicans believe the AGW theory. So 79% of Republicans think they are smarter than the 97-99% of climate scientists who actually study the climate and agree with AGW.

The dumbing down of America at it's best.
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