time to quit, wayne
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Jack, you know you're helping to pay some kids health insurance, those Democrats sure know how to spend your money.
They are really making it difficult to enjoy smoking.
My wife and I quit last August. I do feel alot better.
My wife went through a ruptured appendix 14 days ago. So I was stressed out and worried and all that. I bought a pack of Salems 100s .
I quit again after I smoked two packs though.
That Chantix stuff really works well for me. I took it for about a week. And now I take it when I have the urge.
I have cheated twice in the last 6 months smoking cigars on long driving trips , but overall its all good.
pack a day 365 x 6.50 = $ 2,372.50 a year
DTB smoker 2 packs a day 730 x 6.50 =
$ 4,745.00
:scared :scared son of a biscuit !
when I get 75 or so I am going to sit on the porch and smoke cigars until I fawking die
My wife and I quit last August. I do feel alot better.
My wife went through a ruptured appendix 14 days ago. So I was stressed out and worried and all that. I bought a pack of Salems 100s .
I quit again after I smoked two packs though.
That Chantix stuff really works well for me. I took it for about a week. And now I take it when I have the urge.
I have cheated twice in the last 6 months smoking cigars on long driving trips , but overall its all good.
pack a day 365 x 6.50 = $ 2,372.50 a year
DTB smoker 2 packs a day 730 x 6.50 =
$ 4,745.00
:scared :scared son of a biscuit !
when I get 75 or so I am going to sit on the porch and smoke cigars until I fawking die
It must be some sort of combination between fed and state or something. I was buying some dip the other day and the cashier said that she wondered if the tax was going up on dip as well.
I asked her what she meant and she said cigarette taxes were going up 62 cents a pack soon here in Florida.
February 4, 2009
Congress, President Deliver Historic Victory for Children's Health By Increasing Tobacco Taxes to Fund SCHIP Program
Statement of Matthew L. Myers, President, Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids
Washington, D.C. - The Congress and President Obama today have delivered a historic victory for the health of America's kids by increasing federal tobacco taxes, including a 62-cent increase in the cigarette tax, and expanding the State Children's Health Insurance Program (SCHIP). The new law will create a healthier future for millions of children by reducing tobacco use ? the number one cause of preventable death in America ? and expanding health care coverage for kids. The House of Representatives today gave final approval to the legislation, and President Obama signed it into law.
Increasing tobacco taxes is a proven strategy to reduce smoking and other tobacco use, especially among children. Studies show that every 10 percent increase in the price of cigarettes reduces youth smoking by 7 percent and overall cigarette consumption by about 4 percent.
The cigarette tax increase will lead to nearly two million fewer kids starting to smoke, help more than one million adult smokers quit, prevent nearly 900,000 smoking-caused deaths and produce $44.5 billion in long-term health care savings by reducing tobacco-caused health care costs. It is further good news that the final legislation immediately increases the tax on so-called "little cigars" to $1.01 per pack, the same rate as for cigarettes, addressing a disparity that has made little cigars cheaper and more appealing to kids.
Higher tobacco taxes are a win-win-win solution for the country ? a health win that will reduce tobacco use and save lives, a financial win that will raise revenue to help fund the SCHIP program and reduce tobacco-caused health care costs, and a political win that is popular with voters. Polling conducted for the Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids found that more than two-thirds of all voters support a significant increase in the federal cigarette tax to provide health care coverage to uninsured children.
The tobacco tax increase is a significant step forward and should be the first step in a comprehensive national strategy to reduce tobacco use. The new Congress and President Obama should take action this year to enact long-overdue legislation granting the U.S. Food and Drug Administration authority to regulate the manufacturing, marketing and sale of tobacco products and provide funding for tobacco prevention and cessation programs. These measures not only reduce smoking and save lives; they also are highly cost-effective investments that save money by reducing tobacco-related health care costs. Each year in the United States, tobacco use kills more than 400,000 people and costs the nation $96 billion in health care bills.
Congress, President Deliver Historic Victory for Children's Health By Increasing Tobacco Taxes to Fund SCHIP Program
Statement of Matthew L. Myers, President, Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids
Washington, D.C. - The Congress and President Obama today have delivered a historic victory for the health of America's kids by increasing federal tobacco taxes, including a 62-cent increase in the cigarette tax, and expanding the State Children's Health Insurance Program (SCHIP). The new law will create a healthier future for millions of children by reducing tobacco use ? the number one cause of preventable death in America ? and expanding health care coverage for kids. The House of Representatives today gave final approval to the legislation, and President Obama signed it into law.
Increasing tobacco taxes is a proven strategy to reduce smoking and other tobacco use, especially among children. Studies show that every 10 percent increase in the price of cigarettes reduces youth smoking by 7 percent and overall cigarette consumption by about 4 percent.
The cigarette tax increase will lead to nearly two million fewer kids starting to smoke, help more than one million adult smokers quit, prevent nearly 900,000 smoking-caused deaths and produce $44.5 billion in long-term health care savings by reducing tobacco-caused health care costs. It is further good news that the final legislation immediately increases the tax on so-called "little cigars" to $1.01 per pack, the same rate as for cigarettes, addressing a disparity that has made little cigars cheaper and more appealing to kids.
Higher tobacco taxes are a win-win-win solution for the country ? a health win that will reduce tobacco use and save lives, a financial win that will raise revenue to help fund the SCHIP program and reduce tobacco-caused health care costs, and a political win that is popular with voters. Polling conducted for the Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids found that more than two-thirds of all voters support a significant increase in the federal cigarette tax to provide health care coverage to uninsured children.
The tobacco tax increase is a significant step forward and should be the first step in a comprehensive national strategy to reduce tobacco use. The new Congress and President Obama should take action this year to enact long-overdue legislation granting the U.S. Food and Drug Administration authority to regulate the manufacturing, marketing and sale of tobacco products and provide funding for tobacco prevention and cessation programs. These measures not only reduce smoking and save lives; they also are highly cost-effective investments that save money by reducing tobacco-related health care costs. Each year in the United States, tobacco use kills more than 400,000 people and costs the nation $96 billion in health care bills.
RJR plans price boost
Wholesale cost of its brands will go up 41 to 78 cents a pack
By Richard Craver | Winston-Salem Journal Reporter
Published: March 7, 2009
R.J. Reynolds Tobacco Co. said yesterday that it will raise the list price on its cigarette brands in the range of 41 cents to 78 cents a pack for wholesale customers.
Camel, Kool, Winston and Salem will go up 44 cents a pack, and Pall Mall, Doral and Capri will go up 41 cents, said David Howard, a spokesman for Reynolds.
Its other brands will go up 71 cents to 78 cents a pack, depending on the brand.
The increases will start March 16,
Analysts projected the sharp price increases before Congress passed the 62-cent increase in the federal excise tax to pay for expansion of the State Children's Health Insurance Program. That tax increase will take effect April 1.
Reynolds is not the only manufacturer raising prices.
On Monday, Altria Group Inc. is increasing the list price for certain brands that include Marlboro, Virginia Slims and Parliament by $7.10 a carton, and the list price for other brands that include Benson & Hedges, Chesterfield and Merit by $8.07 a carton.
Lorillard Tobacco Co. is also increasing its list price by $7.10 a carton, according to Pat Shehan, the owner of Tarheel Tobacco in Winston-Salem.
Besides the list-price increase, Reynolds is also reducing its discount rate at retail.
"The net result is that we will be aligned with our competitors in terms of pricing," Howard said.
Shehan estimated that the federal tax increase will raise the cost of a carton of cigarettes by $6.17.
Anti-smoking groups hailed the approval of the SCHIP program in part because analysts estimate that cigarette sales could decline by as much as 8 percent as a result of the federal tax increase.
"It is clear that Philip Morris, Reynolds and Lorillard think they can maximize profits by raising their cigarette prices not only to account for the federal cigarette-tax increase prematurely, but also by raising the prices by an extra 10 cents," said Eric Lindblom, the director for policy research for the Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids.
"As far as public health goes, the larger, faster and clearer cigarette-price increases are, the more they will prevent and reduce smoking, save lives and reduce related harms and costs," Lindblom said.
Neither Reynolds nor Altria commented on whether the extra amount of the list-price increase is meant to provide additional revenue from each pack to help offset the potential decline in sales.
The list-price increase will likely lead to decreased sales, said Charles Norton, the portfolio manager of the USA Mutuals Vice Fund, which specializes in gaming, alcohol, tobacco and defense-industry stocks.
"But the companies are profit focused, and this is their best move," Norton said. "Also, the pricing gap between premium and low-priced brands is narrower than it has been in previous years, which leaves room to bump up pricing on premium brands like Marlboro, Camel and Newport."
But Shehan said that the list-price increases will accelerate a movement by his customers toward lower-priced cigarettes.
"While their prices likely will go up as well, there will be enough of a difference to continue to make the third-tier and fourth-tier cigarette brands more popular," Shehan said.
"Brand recognition will become less important as people have less money in their pocket."
Wholesale cost of its brands will go up 41 to 78 cents a pack
By Richard Craver | Winston-Salem Journal Reporter
Published: March 7, 2009
R.J. Reynolds Tobacco Co. said yesterday that it will raise the list price on its cigarette brands in the range of 41 cents to 78 cents a pack for wholesale customers.
Camel, Kool, Winston and Salem will go up 44 cents a pack, and Pall Mall, Doral and Capri will go up 41 cents, said David Howard, a spokesman for Reynolds.
Its other brands will go up 71 cents to 78 cents a pack, depending on the brand.
The increases will start March 16,
Analysts projected the sharp price increases before Congress passed the 62-cent increase in the federal excise tax to pay for expansion of the State Children's Health Insurance Program. That tax increase will take effect April 1.
Reynolds is not the only manufacturer raising prices.
On Monday, Altria Group Inc. is increasing the list price for certain brands that include Marlboro, Virginia Slims and Parliament by $7.10 a carton, and the list price for other brands that include Benson & Hedges, Chesterfield and Merit by $8.07 a carton.
Lorillard Tobacco Co. is also increasing its list price by $7.10 a carton, according to Pat Shehan, the owner of Tarheel Tobacco in Winston-Salem.
Besides the list-price increase, Reynolds is also reducing its discount rate at retail.
"The net result is that we will be aligned with our competitors in terms of pricing," Howard said.
Shehan estimated that the federal tax increase will raise the cost of a carton of cigarettes by $6.17.
Anti-smoking groups hailed the approval of the SCHIP program in part because analysts estimate that cigarette sales could decline by as much as 8 percent as a result of the federal tax increase.
"It is clear that Philip Morris, Reynolds and Lorillard think they can maximize profits by raising their cigarette prices not only to account for the federal cigarette-tax increase prematurely, but also by raising the prices by an extra 10 cents," said Eric Lindblom, the director for policy research for the Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids.
"As far as public health goes, the larger, faster and clearer cigarette-price increases are, the more they will prevent and reduce smoking, save lives and reduce related harms and costs," Lindblom said.
Neither Reynolds nor Altria commented on whether the extra amount of the list-price increase is meant to provide additional revenue from each pack to help offset the potential decline in sales.
The list-price increase will likely lead to decreased sales, said Charles Norton, the portfolio manager of the USA Mutuals Vice Fund, which specializes in gaming, alcohol, tobacco and defense-industry stocks.
"But the companies are profit focused, and this is their best move," Norton said. "Also, the pricing gap between premium and low-priced brands is narrower than it has been in previous years, which leaves room to bump up pricing on premium brands like Marlboro, Camel and Newport."
But Shehan said that the list-price increases will accelerate a movement by his customers toward lower-priced cigarettes.
"While their prices likely will go up as well, there will be enough of a difference to continue to make the third-tier and fourth-tier cigarette brands more popular," Shehan said.
"Brand recognition will become less important as people have less money in their pocket."
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Them damn coffin nails should be sold to the terminally ill people only!!! Sorry for the ones who smoke but them fawking things are killing people at an alarming rate and its FINE by most, I hope they go up to $50 a pack and everyone stops smoking them and enjoy alot longer life span!!!
Them damn coffin nails should be sold to the terminally ill people only!!! Sorry for the ones who smoke but them fawking things are killing people at an alarming rate and its FINE by most, I hope they go up to $50 a pack and everyone stops smoking them and enjoy alot longer life span!!!
If it made us quit I'd be for the tax Jack
Pay bout $23 a carton here--
We need to quit anyway--have some friends that quit on new drug thats out--can't think of name now.--a nasty habit--the 1st few in morning with coffee would be the toughest.
thank Obama, the extra tax is paying for kids who don't have insurance, don't you feel good about helping underpriviledged kids? another way for your government to control you. The next thing you know the left is going to tax you more on fast food, tax, tax, tax. At least you have a choice to quit
............................................................If it made us quit I'd be for the tax Jack
Pay bout $23 a carton here--
We need to quit anyway--have some friends that quit on new drug thats out--can't think of name now.--a nasty habit--the 1st few in morning with coffee would be the toughest.
do you have me on ignore again ?
the drug is Chantix
i'm gonna quit.If it made us quit I'd be for the tax Jack
Pay bout $23 a carton here--
We need to quit anyway--have some friends that quit on new drug thats out--can't think of name now.--a nasty habit--the 1st few in morning with coffee would be the toughest.
i tried that drug (chantix) and it worked but the side effects were unbearable. the very next day after i quit taking the drug, i smoked. for about 3 weeks i had no desire to smoke whatsoever and never even thought about it. i might try it again :mj07:
google 'chantix forums' 'chantix side effects' etc and you will read some horror stories.
the tax does not affect me so I could careless, Obama smokes more than cigarettes:weed:
Guess we'll have to get muzzles put on people too, because I will guarantee you that obesity is killing a lot more people than cigarette smoking. I think people should be able to smoke if they wish, but all these huge people around and now all the fat kids are worse health hazards.
Partylines aside.How can someone post this??
Win-win for everybody involved.Tax my gas
Tax the cancerkillers
Hedge ,dont be an arse all the time:SIB
i remember saying i was gonna quit if they went to $150 a pack :scared
i've been WANTING to quit for a long time, i think this gives me incentive. $5.50 x 2 x 30 = $330 a month. stupid paying that to kill myself. WAFI i have been.
:sadwave:
i've been WANTING to quit for a long time, i think this gives me incentive. $5.50 x 2 x 30 = $330 a month. stupid paying that to kill myself. WAFI i have been.
:sadwave:
Brain Cancer
Brain Cancer
Lost two dear friends in the last 7 years, both to brain cancer, both 1-2 pack a day men...
one early 40's other early fifties...
my dad quit when they found a black spot on his lungs back in the late sixties, lived an extra 26 years.... smoked an occaisional stogie, did not inhale much.
ain't worth it folks....the stuff will kill you...:sadwave:
Brain Cancer
Lost two dear friends in the last 7 years, both to brain cancer, both 1-2 pack a day men...
one early 40's other early fifties...
my dad quit when they found a black spot on his lungs back in the late sixties, lived an extra 26 years.... smoked an occaisional stogie, did not inhale much.
ain't worth it folks....the stuff will kill you...:sadwave:
