Yep, Arizona didnt belong

Jorgesca

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Just for Penn St having more wins to Tournament teams than Az makes it debatable, but im not gonna get in an argument with you since i root for Az too but think with something else than my heart.
 

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total wins has become meaningless

did you see penn state non conf schedule?

new jersey institute of technology???

army, sacred heart, towson, hartford, new hampshire, penn, mt st marys, lafayette

not exactly murderes row.

7 with a ken pom ranking of 230+
2 from 140+
 

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kansas st #4 in elite conference
creighton
sd st
davidson
auburn
r island
st mary's
on a neutral court today// 5 of these teams win by 5 or more- maybe 6
 

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kansas st #4 in elite conference
creighton
sd st
davidson
auburn
r island
st mary's
on a neutral court today// 5 of these teams win by 5 or more- maybe 6

is that a better ooc list than

gonzaga
kansas
tx am
unlv
sdsu
uab

i see ZERO tourney teams on your list and THREE on this list.
 

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Congrats to Arizona getting to sweet 16. I don't think they deserved a bid, definitely did not last year over Arizona St.

That said, just enjoy the run. UNC did not deserve a bid when they went 7-9 in ACC about a decade ago and ended up in the Final 4.

The fact that they got to the Final 4 did not prove at all whether they belonged or not, just meant they made the best of what was an unfair opportunity. As a fan, I was obviously happy but never tried to justify what happened in the dance with earning the right to be there.

Two different discussions, but again, congrats and good luck in the next round.
 

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A PROUD HOMER YOU ARE,IT WILL END SOON ENOUGH.WHY NOT ENJOY IT WHILE YOU CAN?

THESE ARGUEMENTS RISE EVERY YEAR,NONE OF THE TEAMS THAT ARE INVOLVED IN THE ARGUEMENTS EVER WIN IT.

WHATS THE BIG DEAL?
 

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Congrats to Arizona getting to sweet 16. I don't think they deserved a bid, definitely did not last year over Arizona St.

That said, just enjoy the run. UNC did not deserve a bid when they went 7-9 in ACC about a decade ago and ended up in the Final 4.

The fact that they got to the Final 4 did not prove at all whether they belonged or not, just meant they made the best of what was an unfair opportunity. As a fan, I was obviously happy but never tried to justify what happened in the dance with earning the right to be there.

Two different discussions, but again, congrats and good luck in the next round.

funny

another...."but they didnt deserve the bid" post

WHO SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN OVER THEM?

none of the teams that missed out were worth a shit or had a better resume.

then again, maybe it just sounds good...they didnt deserve to be in.
 

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Not sure whether they deserved to get in or not, nor do I care, but I bet on them the first 2 games as the match-ups were in their favor IMO. Now the fun begins for these Wildcats, good luck.
 

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All I know is that they are lucky to be in. Going .500 in the below average Pac-10 (9-10 if you count the 1st round loss in conf tourney).

Quality wins over Kansas and Gonzaga. Lost 5 out of last 6 games. Yeah, you are right. They deserve to have a chance at the national title. I would have definitely put St. Mary's over them among others.
 

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The biggest thing me and others were saying though, is that people try to say its justified by what happens after the fact.

Whether they deserve a bid or not, its clear you want to justify getting in by what happens after the fact.

And I wished you good luck the rest of the way. You will need it, b/c the next game will not be Utah or Cleveland State. Then again, it might be Siena, lol.
 

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Survive and Advance.

Like I say, when UNC got in, I knew they could have easily been out. I didn't defend them being in, but I also didn't apologize.
 

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They might not have belonged. They kind of half assed it all season, like you mentioned before.. the teams who got left out definitely didnt deserve it.This has been one of my favorite programs, glad they are back to doing well in the tourney.
 

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Again, the main thing I was saying was that please don't try to justify them being in by what happens in the tourney.

Amazing they got in both last year AND this year. Let them go play in the ACC or Big East and they would have most likely not even got to the NIT.
 

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Again, the main thing I was saying was that please don't try to justify them being in by what happens in the tourney.

Amazing they got in both last year AND this year. Let them go play in the ACC or Big East and they would have most likely not even got to the NIT.

again

they deserved to be in had they lost to utah by 50

st marys is in the tournament they belonged in once cleve stat -miss state- won conf tourneys
 

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Fitting that in the Year of Chalk the Sweet 16 No.12 Seed Cinderella is the team that has been in the tourney the most conseutive years.
 

TouchdownJesus

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gjn, could have gone either way. They may deserve over others, maybe not. A very, very average season, and that is being generous.

That said, a sincere good luck the rest of the way, unless they play UNC.
 

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People argued AZ didn't belong in the tournament and they probably wound up w/the easiest road to the Sweet 16.

I see them as a huge go-against next round.
 

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Hey gin, I had Zona in the 1st 2 rounds in my
bracket, they may shock a few people.
 
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