Notre Dame welcomed "Texecutioner" George Bush

[Spytheweb]

the Catholic Church is vehemently opposed to the death penalty -- as it should be. As Governor of Texas, George Bush was a very strong proponent of the death penalty -- and he implemented it many times:

George W. Bush during his six years as governor of Texas presided over 152 executions, more than any other governor in the recent history of the United States. Bush has said: "I take every death penalty case seriously and review each case carefully.... Each case is major because each case is life or death." In his autobiography, A Charge to Keep (1999), he wrote, "For every death penalty case, [legal counsel] brief me thoroughly, reviews the arguments made by the prosecution and the defense, raises any doubts or problems or questions." Bush called this a "fail-safe" method for ensuring "due process" and certainty of guilt.

So, Bush actually had a role in the deaths of 152 people. Yet, the Catholic hierarchy welcomed him with open arms at Notre Dame's commencement in 2001.

Yet, this year, the Catholics leaders are having a hissy fit because Obama is going to give the commencement speech at Notre Dame. Obama never signed an execution order. He didn't oversee the executions of 152 people. No, Obama is pro-choice. He supports a women's right to choose (which is the law of the land because of Roe v. Wade.)

 

[UGA12]

Take solice in the fact that if more people knew who you were there would be far fewer pro-lifers. Rot you worthless piece of shit!

 

[Wilson]

the Catholic Church is vehemently opposed to the death penalty -- as it should be. As Governor of Texas, George Bush was a very strong proponent of the death penalty -- and he implemented it many times:

George W. Bush during his six years as governor of Texas presided over 152 executions, more than any other governor in the recent history of the United States. Bush has said: "I take every death penalty case seriously and review each case carefully.... Each case is major because each case is life or death." In his autobiography, A Charge to Keep (1999), he wrote, "For every death penalty case, [legal counsel] brief me thoroughly, reviews the arguments made by the prosecution and the defense, raises any doubts or problems or questions." Bush called this a "fail-safe" method for ensuring "due process" and certainty of guilt.

So, Bush actually had a role in the deaths of 152 people. Yet, the Catholic hierarchy welcomed him with open arms at Notre Dame's commencement in 2001.

Yet, this year, the Catholics leaders are having a hissy fit because Obama is going to give the commencement speech at Notre Dame. Obama never signed an execution order. He didn't oversee the executions of 152 people. No, Obama is pro-choice. He supports a women's right to choose (which is the law of the land because of Roe v. Wade.)

Spyweb- Do me a favor? Would you research what the 152 "victims" did to get the death penalty?

Ya think maybe they were bad people? Do ya think maybe they killed other people? Do ya think maybe they caused irreparable harm to the families of those that they harmed?

Those that kill others in cold blood...deserve to die. Comparing their extermination to an innocent baby is just stupid.

 

[Spytheweb]

Spyweb- Do me a favor? Would you research what the 152 "victims" did to get the death penalty?

Ya think maybe they were bad people? Do ya think maybe they killed other people? Do ya think maybe they caused irreparable harm to the families of those that they harmed?

Those that kill others in cold blood...deserve to die. Comparing their extermination to an innocent baby is just stupid.

Texas Justice System Flawed, Paper Says


June 11, 2000

Dozens of people have been executed in Texas during the tenure of Gov. George W. Bush after flawed trials, the Chicago Tribune said today.

The newspaper said it had studied all 131 executions carried out during the Bush administration and found that in many, "justice has been shaped by witnesses, experts and lawyers of questionable merit."

The newspaper's investigation, based on trial transcripts, legal briefs and other records, comes six months after Illinois Gov. George Ryan halted executions in his state due to fears of miscarriages of justice. Illinois has executed 12 death row inmates since 1976 and exonerated 13 others.

"The problems plaguing Illinois are equally pronounced in Texas, and . . . additional flaws undermine the state's administration of society's ultimate punishment," the newspaper said.

"Under Gov. George W. Bush, Texas has executed dozens of death row inmates whose cases were compromised by unreliable evidence, disbarred or suspended defense attorneys, meager defense efforts during sentencing and dubious psychiatric testimony," the Tribune said.

The report said defense attorneys in 40 of the capital cases presented no evidence or only one witness during the sentencing phase.

Twenty-three cases involved jailhouse informants, who are described in the report as being among the least credible type of witness.

Bush, the presumptive Republican candidate for the U.S. presidency, has expressed confidence in Texas' capital punishment system. Texas has executed a total of 218 inmates since 1976--nearly three times as many as Virginia, the state with the second-busiest execution chamber. Seven Texas death row inmates have been exonerated.

Bush's criminal justice policy director, Johnny Sutton, told the Tribune, "We have a system in place that is very careful and that gives years and years of super due process to make sure that no innocent defendants are executed and that the defendant received a fair trial.

"We think we have a good criminal justice system in Texas. It's not perfect, but it's one of the best around."

Last week, Bush granted a 30-day reprieve to a condemned prisoner, Ricky McGinn, to allow for new DNA tests. It was the first reprieve he had granted.

The Tribune report said that in 43 of the 131 capital cases, defendants were represented by attorneys who were sanctioned for misconduct, either before or after the trial.

 

[Spytheweb]

From the debates


A smile crept across George W. Bush's lips as he talked about yet another set of executions...
He looked positively delighted as he shared his good news with all of America: He will preside over the deaths of the white men who murdered James Byrd, a 49-year-old black man, in 1998. "Guess what's going to happen to these men?" he grinned at the camera during last night's debate with Vice President Gore. "They're going to be put to death."
Bush beamed in happiness. He was so enthusiastic at the prospect of new executions that he said he would execute all 3 of Byrd's killers. Texas does not need anti-hate-crime laws, Bush said. "We cannot enhance the penalty any more than putting those 3 thugs to death," he said. He grinned again. - Excerpt from New York Daily News, by Lars Nelson

The moment was noteworthy for two reasons. First, as his campaign later conceded, Mr. Bush had his facts wrong two of the three defendants were sentenced to death, the third received life in prison. But by seeming to endorse the executions, he also violated his own policy as Texas governor of maintaining his silence and impartiality about pending death penalty cases until court appeals are exhausted and the cases reach his desk. Mr. Bush's blunt endorsement of the executions of the defendants in the Byrd case even though the appeals process has only begun brought a swift response from some legal scholars and other critics who say the comments undermine the legal principle of due process.
"There has been a thought that he doesn't really take the appellate system seriously," said a University of Houston law professor, David Dow, who has represented death row inmates. Of his comments on the Byrd defendants, Mr. Dow said: "He was celebrating their death sentences. I think even most supporters of the death penalty do not celebrate death sentences. It's a somber event." - Excerpts from The New York Times, by Jim Yardley


George Bush Jr built his career on the dead bodies of Americans.

 

[Spytheweb]

Take solice in the fact that if more people knew who you were there would be far fewer pro-lifers. Rot you worthless piece of shit!

Are you a little confused, you're the pro-lifer (pro war) I'am pro choice, anti-war.

The church thinks if they keep their hands over your crotch they can control you. The church does not want women to have the power to decide for themselves what they want to do with their bodies.

This same church's advice is to not wear protection during sex.

I take solace in the fact that Bush and Cheney are out of office and that someday a world court will put them on trial. The US is or use to be a country of laws, until they break them. Laws are for everybody, just for the masses. It will take a world court to find justice.

 

[jer-z jock]

Texas Justice System Flawed, Paper Says


June 11, 2000

Dozens of people have been executed in Texas during the tenure of Gov. George W. Bush after flawed trials, the Chicago Tribune said today.

The newspaper said it had studied all 131 executions carried out during the Bush administration and found that in many, "justice has been shaped by witnesses, experts and lawyers of questionable merit."

The newspaper's investigation, based on trial transcripts, legal briefs and other records, comes six months after Illinois Gov. George Ryan halted executions in his state due to fears of miscarriages of justice. Illinois has executed 12 death row inmates since 1976 and exonerated 13 others.

"The problems plaguing Illinois are equally pronounced in Texas, and . . . additional flaws undermine the state's administration of society's ultimate punishment," the newspaper said.

"Under Gov. George W. Bush, Texas has executed dozens of death row inmates whose cases were compromised by unreliable evidence, disbarred or suspended defense attorneys, meager defense efforts during sentencing and dubious psychiatric testimony," the Tribune said.

The report said defense attorneys in 40 of the capital cases presented no evidence or only one witness during the sentencing phase.

Twenty-three cases involved jailhouse informants, who are described in the report as being among the least credible type of witness.

Bush, the presumptive Republican candidate for the U.S. presidency, has expressed confidence in Texas' capital punishment system. Texas has executed a total of 218 inmates since 1976--nearly three times as many as Virginia, the state with the second-busiest execution chamber. Seven Texas death row inmates have been exonerated.

Bush's criminal justice policy director, Johnny Sutton, told the Tribune, "We have a system in place that is very careful and that gives years and years of super due process to make sure that no innocent defendants are executed and that the defendant received a fair trial.

"We think we have a good criminal justice system in Texas. It's not perfect, but it's one of the best around."

Last week, Bush granted a 30-day reprieve to a condemned prisoner, Ricky McGinn, to allow for new DNA tests. It was the first reprieve he had granted.

The Tribune report said that in 43 of the 131 capital cases, defendants were represented by attorneys who were sanctioned for misconduct, either before or after the trial.

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ya dont say, you mean Texas is killing people unjustly? I always thought....Bush is crooked, will be crooked, and has been crooked since he was a teenager...and hearing a few criminals dont matter they deserve to die. I never understood the theory of killing someone is wrong and ANOTHER HUMAN BEING THAT WAS ELECTED INTO OFFICE OR POWER has the power to have you EXECUTED....something seems strangely double sided about that one. Murder is wrong and murder is murder to me no matter the steps taken to have it happen.

 

[gardenweasel]

obviously ignorance breeds faster than intelligence...

/stw=quisling

 

[WhatsHisNuts]

Take solice in the fact that if more people knew who you were there would be far fewer pro-lifers. Rot you worthless piece of shit!

Nice post. Why don't you take your hatred elsewhere. Whether you like him or not, he doesn't deserve to be talked to like that.

 

[WhatsHisNuts]

Spyweb- Do me a favor? Would you research what the 152 "victims" did to get the death penalty?

Ya think maybe they were bad people? Do ya think maybe they killed other people? Do ya think maybe they caused irreparable harm to the families of those that they harmed?

Those that kill others in cold blood...deserve to die. Comparing their extermination to an innocent baby is just stupid.

He points out that the Catholics are hypocrites and you attack him.

 

[Chadman]

Although I'm not going to get into the religious aspects of this, nor trade any barbs - at face value this does seem to be a double standard for the catholic leaders that are protesting Obama. I still have a very difficult time with these selective one issue diatribes, when other issues (IMO) should also be in play when determining value or rights to do things.

 

[WhatsHisNuts]

I still have a very difficult time with these selective one issue diatribes, when other issues (IMO) should also be in play when determining value or rights to do things.

That's why I think people that blindly follow one party are dopes. Latch onto a party for one of those high profile issues and let the party do whatever the hell they want on the other thousand.

 

[UGA12]

Nice post. Why don't you take your hatred elsewhere. Whether you like him or not, he doesn't deserve to be talked to like that.

With all due repesct I couldnt care less how you feel about my words toward the scumbag. He is an Anti-American piece of shit. I have only felt this way about 2 people in all my years around here and the other was the Anti-American piece of shit Kanuck. You want to give him a pass then good for you, but I dont intend to.

 

[gardenweasel]

Take solice in the fact that if more people knew who you were there would be far fewer pro-lifers. Rot you worthless piece of shit!

i agree with you ,uga...he`s a worthless p.o.s....he DOES deserve to be talked to like that....and much much more...

hear! hear!...

 

[Cie]

He points out that some Catholics are hypocrites and you attack him.

Fixed it for you, know-it-all.

 

[WhatsHisNuts]

Fixed it for you, know-it-all.

Something hit home?

 

[WhatsHisNuts]

With all due repesct I couldnt care less how you feel about my words toward the scumbag. He is an Anti-American piece of shit. I have only felt this way about 2 people in all my years around here and the other was the Anti-American piece of shit Kanuck. You want to give him a pass then good for you, but I dont intend to.

Never said you had to give him a pass. I just think he deserves to be free of personal attacks.

As for being Anti-American, you're way off. The guy goes overboard sometimes, but it is because he is passionate. I think most people get fed up with him because they don't have a real answer to the stuff he brings up. It is much easier to call him a terrorist than to debate him.

Interesting quote on the subject by a former Senator below....

"The citizen who criticizes his country is paying it an implied tribute."

-J William Fulbright

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

Liberal logic at it's finest--

Trying to compare unborn children with 1st degree murderers-- you da man spy

 

[WhatsHisNuts]

Liberal logic at it's finest--

Trying to compare unborn children with 1st degree murderers-- you da man spy

Wrong Wayno. The Catholics are either right to lifers or they're not. There is also something Jesus said about forgiveness that doesn't quite job jive with the death penalty.

 

[Wilson]

Wrong Wayno. The Catholics are either right to lifers or they're not. There is also something Jesus said about forgiveness that doesn't quite job jive with the death penalty.

Jesus, you are obnoxious.

I don't believe in abortion.

I believe in the death penalty.

I am Catholic.

:kiss: