Notre Dame welcomed "Texecutioner" George Bush

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I think that parents should have to be notified if the girl involved is under 18. The parent(s) should have to provide written 'permission.'

well,it looks like we`ve found an issue on which we can all basically agree..

anybody have a link for "the prophecies of nostradamus"?....

stem cells?...i`m o.k. with fetal stem cell research..as long as other stem cell research gets equal monetary support....the truth is,that the jury is still out on how effective they really can be...

it`s a political football in which each side uses their own research to justify their position.....

unlike man-made global warming(which is a total scam ),i have no idea whether fetal stem cells are more effective than say skin stem cells...many think fetal stem cells are very unpredictable and can lead to early cancer and other maladies...

treat all stem cell research equally...don`t make it political...
 
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The issue is about life. In one case, abortion, currently the government allows one person to decide whether or not another "person" will live or die, The definition of when life begins comes into play in this debate. The argument which I buy into is that life does not begin at conception (Catholic view) but rather when the fetus can sustain itself, independently, outside of the womb.

With reference to capital punishment, the gpverment decides, based on a system, to take a self sustaing independent life as a means of punishment for crimes committed. Here, there is no question about viability but rather the right of government to take life as a form of punishment for violation of law.

As a non-believer, I believe life is all we have. No trumpet playing on clouds in white gowns worshiping Jesus all day, or as in Wayne's situation, no hot melting lava pits in tatered cloths. We each have 77.4 years to treat each other as we want to be treated. Bottom line for me, you don't take life after it can be sustained outside the womb and you don't take life for commision of crimes.

I understand the contra arguments especially with regard to the abortion issue (rape, severely impaired fetus/child). These are very tough questions when you mix in the reality of the economics and the qualtiy of life positions.

I also understand the Christian principle of an eye for any eye on the back end. The families of the victims of horrible crimes will never get their loved one back due to the savageness of another human being. Letting someone walk around who killed your son or daughter is unthinkable to me and couldn't blame anyone for taking the law into their own hands. However, I think, as a society, we can punish, people for significant crimes without killing them.

As a former Catholic, Notre Dame's position is an embarrasement even to those of us who realize how much bullshit that church is. On one hand they welcome George Bush who has ordered the murder of 100's of thousands in addition to the "civilized killing" of death row inmates, is a murderer in many ways yet protest Barack Obama who has never ordered anyone killed and is obeying the law of this country.

This is why I also am a recovering Catholic and the religion is losing thousands of members by the day. The hypocrisy of that church rivals that of Wayne and Weasel. The only thing they (not Wayne and Weasel to my knowledge) are good at is covering up the good padre's diddling of little boys.

Organized religion = organized scum.

Eddie, in the morning
 
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innocent life?...no question in eddie`s mind...it depends on the whim of the mother...

a child rapist/murderer or a mass murderer?....well,life is "all we have"..can`t take that from him...in spite of the fact he`s taken innocent lives and destroyed countless others in the process...

liberalism is evil...case in point...
 

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The issue is about life. In one case, abortion, currently the government allows one person to decide whether or not another "person" will live or die, The definition of when life begins comes into play in this debate. The argument which I buy into is that life does not begin at conception (Catholic view) but rather when the fetus can sustain itself, independently, outside of the womb.

With reference to capital punishment, the gpverment decides, based on a system, to take a self sustaing independent life as a means of punishment for crimes committed. Here, there is no question about viability but rather the right of government to take life as a form of punishment for violation of law.

As a non-believer, I believe life is all we have. No trumpet playing on clouds in white gowns worshiping Jesus all day, or as in Wayne's situation, no hot melting lava pits in tatered cloths. We each have 77.4 years to treat each other as we want to be treated. Bottom line for me, you don't take life after it can be sustained outside the womb and you don't take life for commision of crimes.

I understand the contra arguments especially with regard to the abortion issue (rape, severely impaired fetus/child). These are very tough questions when you mix in the reality of the economics and the qualtiy of life positions.

I also understand the Christian principle of an eye for any eye on the back end. The families of the victims of horrible crimes will never get their loved one back due to the savageness of another human being. Letting someone walk around who killed your son or daughter is unthinkable to me and couldn't blame anyone for taking the law into their own hands. However, I think, as a society, we can punish, people for significant crimes without killing them.

As a former Catholic, Notre Dame's position is an embarrasement even to those of us who realize how much bullshit that church is. On one hand they welcome George Bush who has ordered the murder of 100's of thousands in addition to the "civilized killing" of death row inmates, is a murderer in many ways yet protest Barack Obama who has never ordered anyone killed and is obeying the law of this country.

This is why I also am a recovering Catholic and the religion is losing thousands of members by the day. The hypocrisy of that church rivals that of Wayne and Weasel. The only thing they (not Wayne and Weasel to my knowledge) are good at is covering up the good padre's diddling of little boys.

Organized religion = organized scum.

Eddie, in the morning

That's pretty strong coming from an athiest personal injury attorney. :)

but pretty much sums up your character and what your about--

You call religious people scum in one breath and on their doors steps with your "have you are a loved one" rhetoric in the next breath--IF you think theres a dime to be made.:nooo:
 
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That's pretty strong coming from an athiest personal injury attorney. :)

but pretty much sums up your character and what your about--

You call religious people scum in one breath and on their doors steps with your "have you are a loved one" rhetoric in the next breath--IF you think theres a dime to be made.:nooo:

this from edward..."As a former Catholic, Notre Dame's position is an embarrasement even to those of us who realize how much bullshit that church is. On one hand they welcome George Bush who has ordered the murder of 100's of thousands in addition to the "civilized killing" of death row inmates, is a murderer in many ways yet protest Barack Obama who has never ordered anyone killed and is obeying the law of this country".
...

edward forgot about the drone bombings along the afghan/pakistani border that have surely caused collateral damge and cost innocent lives....

oops!...
 

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Yes Wayne...

as opposed to Christians like George "how many more people can I kill in the name of Jesus" Bush. I'll take my aethistic personal injury attorney values. Justice for the little guy as long as I get 1/3.

Eddie
 

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well,it looks like we`ve found an issue on which we can all basically agree.

Not all. I strongly, strongly disagree with it (if there is only one group that should be allowed easier access to abortion, it's minors). But I've already said my piece on this issue in here a few times, so that's all I got. Just wanted to let you know there is at least one (insert one of Weasel's neat little nicknames for anyone not a radical conservative here) on here on the issue.
 

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The families of the victims of horrible crimes will never get their loved one back due to the savageness of another human being. Letting someone walk around who killed your son or daughter is unthinkable to me

Especially when that savageness is at the hands of a lawyer who gets those criminals off scot-free, in the name of keeping the 'law'.
 

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Especially when that savageness is at the hands of a lawyer who gets those criminals off scot-free, in the name of keeping the 'law'.

Defendants facing the death penalty are almost never acquitted (and if you look at the history of capital sentencing over the past few decades, THAT is the biggest problem, considering all of the DNA-related exonerations of death row inmates that have been wrongly-accused). It is almost always simply an issue of a life sentence or a death sentence. The rules regarding jury selection in capital cases virtually ensures a guilty verdict, regardless of the guilt or innocence of the defendant.
 

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Defendants facing the death penalty are almost never acquitted (and if you look at the history of capital sentencing over the past few decades, THAT is the biggest problem, considering all of the DNA-related exonerations of death row inmates that have been wrongly-accused). It is almost always simply an issue of a life sentence or a death sentence. The rules regarding jury selection in capital cases virtually ensures a guilty verdict, regardless of the guilt or innocence of the defendant.

Take it easy on him - he looks at teeth all day
 

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Not all. I strongly, strongly disagree with it (if there is only one group that should be allowed easier access to abortion, it's minors). But I've already said my piece on this issue in here a few times, so that's all I got. Just wanted to let you know there is at least one (insert one of Weasel's neat little nicknames for anyone not a radical conservative here) on here on the issue.

you want minors allowed access to abortion on demand without parental consent?.....

do you realize that minors need parental consent to go on class field trips? ..

total insanity..


and as for the "weasel attacking" b.s. meme,check back...with the exception of spytheweb,i seldom if ever attack anyone specifically unless i am attacked(unless you are such a hothouse flower that "moonbat" gets your panties in a bind)...
 
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Saint:

If I were you I would stop putting down lawyers. Considering what I have heard about your professional abilities, I might want to think about keeping one on a 24/7 retainer.

Eddie
 

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the jackasses protesting BO showing up is a great reason to root for these bastards to go 3-8 vs
that shitass schedule this fall ...

Love the right being "so concerned" over abortion ..

TOO FUNNY .... I GUESS GUILANI, THOMPSON and
MITTY are not available for comment?

FUCK THE GOP ... ABORT ALL DELIVERIES HENCEFORTH FROM THEIR END TO SAVE HUMANITY
 
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