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I think its a wonderful idea.

Let them tax the super rich.

They are the ones that profit from war.

They dont like it when they have to pay for it though.
 

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I think its a wonderful idea.

Let them tax the super rich.

They are the ones that profit from war.

They dont like it when they have to pay for it though.

that is socialism:shrug:

I think we should have a flat tax, consumption tax if you will, about 10% no income tax, and a balanced budget

penalize the rich, that is the American way of life I suppose
 

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that is socialism:shrug:

I think we should have a flat tax, consumption tax if you will, about 10% no income tax, and a balanced budget

penalize the rich, that is the American way of life I suppose
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why do you care so much about the rich ?

explain that one to me. :shrug:



I have no problem with a flat tax. It will never happen because there is too much money made by the goverment and private sector doing taxes.
 

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I think its a wonderful idea.

Let them tax the super rich.

They are the ones that profit from war.

They dont like it when they have to pay for it though.

excellent post,scottie....

hell,i might even be voting for free healthcare, bullet trains, new schools, new highways, missions to mars, world-class stadiums, subsidized housing/food/big-screens, or a nice cushy government job and retirement at age 50 with full benefits and more if i wasn't paying for it...(on second thought,not really)...

this is,in a nutshell,the perfect example of what`s ruining this country...

look at california for a perfect example of how non-tax paying voters are ripping the state to shreds...or michigan for that matter...
keep up the good work(and enjoy the free ride)!...
 

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excellent post,scottie....

hell,i might even be voting for free healthcare, bullet trains, new schools, new highways, missions to mars, world-class stadiums, subsidized housing/food/big-screens, or a nice cushy government job and retirement at age 50 with full benefits and more if i wasn't paying for it...(on second thought,not really)...

this is,in a nutshell,the perfect example of what`s ruining this country...

look at california for a perfect example of how non-tax paying voters are ripping the state to shreds...or michigan for that matter...
keep up the good work(and enjoy the free ride)!...

I can see you haven't been taking the classes I told you to. I'm very disappointed.
 

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I can see you haven't been taking the classes I told you to. I'm very disappointed.

at one of the obama indoctrination camps(aka berzerkly/columbia)?....no thank you...

then i might become a moonbat and move to some big city in a once great state that`s been destroyed by liberal doctrine....

some city like detroit where big gov`t and unions have ruined everything...detroit..i`ve been reading about that liberal paradise...

people there can't even cremate their dead loved ones. ...there are literally dozens of bodies piling up in morgues in detroit....

now,how in the hell as an adult do you get to a point in life where you are so fucking lame as to not even be able to save a few hundred bucks to properly take care of a deceased parent?..

answer: when you have handed over your entire life to a decrepit and corrupt government establishment that can no longer handle even its basic functions, let alone all the bullcrap it promised and continues to promise to an ever growing number of gullible americans....


i can pay my bills...i don`t need some bullcrap liberal arts degree for affirmation...;)
 

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why do you care so much about the rich ?

explain that one to me. :shrug:



I have no problem with a flat tax. It will never happen because there is too much money made by the goverment and private sector doing taxes.

Define rich--anyone that pays taxes is supporting those that don't.

Why are you so thick with the dead beat with his hand out wanting another free ride on the tax payors back-- explain that one to us.
 

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Define rich--.
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Recently, there has been some controversy over how to correctly determine a person's status as a millionaire. One of the two most commonly used measurements is net worth, which counts the total value of all property owned by a household minus the household's debts. According to this definition, a household owning an $800k home, $50k of furnishings, two cars worth $60k, a $60k retirement savings account, $45k in mutual funds, and a $325k vacation home with a $250k mortgage, $40k in car loans, and $25k in credit card debt would be worth $1,085,000 (approx.) and every individual in this household would thus be a millionaire. However, according to the net financial assets measurement used for some specific applications (such as evaluating an investor's expected tolerance for risk for stockbroker ethics), equity in one's principal residence is excluded, as are lifestyle assets, such as the car and furniture. Therefore the above example household would only have net financial assets of $80,000. Another term used is "net investable assets" or working capital. These practitioners may use the term "millionaire" to mean somebody who is free to invest a million units of currency through them as broker. For similar reasons, those who market goods, services, and investments to high net worth individuals are careful to specify a net worth "not counting principal residence." Many other specific definitions may be used, but essentially a millionnaire is still somebody in a household with net worth of one million units.

In the real estate bubble up to 2007, average house prices in some U.S. regions exceeded $1 million, but many homeowners owed large amounts to banks holding mortgages on their homes. For this reason there are many people in million-dollar homes whose net worth is far short of a million?-in some cases the net worth is actually negative.

Millionaires hold substantial control over economic resources with the most powerful and prominent individuals usually ranking among them. Also, the total amount of money held by millionaires can equal the same amount of money held by a far higher number of poor people. The Gini coefficient, and other measures in economics, estimated for each country, are useful for figuring out how many of the poorest people have the equivalent total wealth of the few richest in the country. Forbes and Fortune magazines maintain lists of people based on their net worth and are generally considered authorities on the subject. According to Forbes' latest annual list of the World's Billionaires published in March 2008 there are currently 1125 members of the exclusive Billionaire's club US-dollar billionaires in the world.
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These people can pay more.

They wont even blink . They will write it off without thinking about it .

Squeeze them like potates.

why dont you like to squeeze the rich DTB ?

what mind control do they have over you
 

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Recently, there has been some controversy over how to correctly determine a person's status as a millionaire. One of the two most commonly used measurements is net worth, which counts the total value of all property owned by a household minus the household's debts. According to this definition, a household owning an $800k home, $50k of furnishings, two cars worth $60k, a $60k retirement savings account, $45k in mutual funds, and a $325k vacation home with a $250k mortgage, $40k in car loans, and $25k in credit card debt would be worth $1,085,000 (approx.) and every individual in this household would thus be a millionaire. However, according to the net financial assets measurement used for some specific applications (such as evaluating an investor's expected tolerance for risk for stockbroker ethics), equity in one's principal residence is excluded, as are lifestyle assets, such as the car and furniture. Therefore the above example household would only have net financial assets of $80,000. Another term used is "net investable assets" or working capital. These practitioners may use the term "millionaire" to mean somebody who is free to invest a million units of currency through them as broker. For similar reasons, those who market goods, services, and investments to high net worth individuals are careful to specify a net worth "not counting principal residence." Many other specific definitions may be used, but essentially a millionnaire is still somebody in a household with net worth of one million units.

In the real estate bubble up to 2007, average house prices in some U.S. regions exceeded $1 million, but many homeowners owed large amounts to banks holding mortgages on their homes. For this reason there are many people in million-dollar homes whose net worth is far short of a million?-in some cases the net worth is actually negative.

Millionaires hold substantial control over economic resources with the most powerful and prominent individuals usually ranking among them. Also, the total amount of money held by millionaires can equal the same amount of money held by a far higher number of poor people. The Gini coefficient, and other measures in economics, estimated for each country, are useful for figuring out how many of the poorest people have the equivalent total wealth of the few richest in the country. Forbes and Fortune magazines maintain lists of people based on their net worth and are generally considered authorities on the subject. According to Forbes' latest annual list of the World's Billionaires published in March 2008 there are currently 1125 members of the exclusive Billionaire's club US-dollar billionaires in the world.
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These people can pay more.

They wont even blink . They will write it off without thinking about it .

Squeeze them like potates.

why dont you like to squeeze the rich DTB ?

what mind control do they have over you

I think everyone should pay the same rate across the board no matter what you have or make. Capital gains should not even be taxed at all, its money that has already been taxed. :shrug:

basically you think if you are a millionaire you should have to pay more taxes :scared

punish success, you are a communist Scott

I think reward success more money to spend more products and services bought, economy is better off, you liberals never cease to amaze me

new party instead of democrats, the jealous party
 

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I am not a communist

I am a realist

take from the rich and give to the poor

That goes back to the days of Robin Hood

And that was always a good thing to do.

didnt you neocons read about Robin Hood ?
 

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I am not a communist

I am a realist

take from the rich and give to the poor

That goes back to the days of Robin Hood

And that was always a good thing to do.

didnt you neocons read about Robin Hood ?

if you believe in take from the rich give to the lazy ass poor, then you are a marxist:sadwave:

I say fuck the poor make em work sterilize their non working asses so they can't have more babies on welfare.

definition of rich is very subjective
 

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I think everyone should pay the same rate across the board no matter what you have or make. Capital gains should not even be taxed at all, its money that has already been taxed. :shrug:

basically you think if you are a millionaire you should have to pay more taxes :scared

punish success, you are a communist Scott

I think reward success more money to spend more products and services bought, economy is better off, you liberals never cease to amaze me

new party instead of democrats, the jealous party

The country would be in worse shape if everyone paid the same flat rate..... The flat rate would have to be so high because of the rich not paying more.. Under a flat rate now the homeless would still be homeless.. The poverished would then become homeless. Middle Class would be close to poverty.. Upper class and rich would stay the same or get more rich.. Do you see the problem of a flat rate.. You will never get it from poor people and thus it takes from you and I... It's just the way it is and there is no answer for it.. There has to be poor and rich..
 

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The country would be in worse shape if everyone paid the same flat rate..... The flat rate would have to be so high because of the rich not paying more.. Under a flat rate now the homeless would still be homeless.. The poverished would then become homeless. Middle Class would be close to poverty.. Upper class and rich would stay the same or get more rich.. Do you see the problem of a flat rate.. You will never get it from poor people and thus it takes from you and I... It's just the way it is and there is no answer for it.. There has to be poor and rich..

You can't use logic to explain anything to Hedgy.
 
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