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Couple here have beaten me to it - was busy all weekend. Wayne, I too would like to hear your plan for what we should do with Iran. How exactly do you propose we deal with the leader there, and what's going on in the country. Should we declare war on them, and invade the country? You seemingly don't - along with other right wing Iran commentators - feel that sanctions are enough. You don't feel that attacking Iraq to put our military squarely next to the country and establish the second largest airport - and I believe the largest military air base in the world - was enough. Keeping more than 100,000 troops there indefinitely, even after withdrawing unnecessary troops, is not enough. Does Krauthammer and others have a plan? Are you all in agreement that our only choice - the only appropriate choice - is to attack Iraq?
I don't see what else is left. Maybe you do? And if you think we should attack them, how do you propose we pay for it, considering your concerns about the deficit, and thinking we should stay in Iraq and engage in all out war with the "enemy" in Afghanistan?
I don't see what else is left. Maybe you do? And if you think we should attack them, how do you propose we pay for it, considering your concerns about the deficit, and thinking we should stay in Iraq and engage in all out war with the "enemy" in Afghanistan?
Vey good write up Twins Fan, I want my money back, soon. :0corn
Anyways, have you seen the movie War Inc? The entire war is sponsored by large corporations and fought by private armys.
In the grand scheme of things, the 2 fronts, besides making Saddam shit his pants in public, killing a bunch of civilians, making more enemies, what really has been accomplished? Oh yeah, Dick made a shit load of money as well as Blackwater.
Anyways, have you seen the movie War Inc? The entire war is sponsored by large corporations and fought by private armys.
In the grand scheme of things, the 2 fronts, besides making Saddam shit his pants in public, killing a bunch of civilians, making more enemies, what really has been accomplished? Oh yeah, Dick made a shit load of money as well as Blackwater.
Thanks, but admittedly, I don't know the best thing. I certainly think strong sanctions are the appropriate way to handle this - compared to other alternatives, and a good way to keep others on our side in the issue.
The Brazilian leader is being linked as some kind of signal of a further issues of Obama and/or U.S. weakness, and essentially he was a mediator to help broker a deal to have Iran provide low grade uranium to another country - what the security council and most uncertain world countries had asked for from Iran to help verify their comments about not doing it for warlike purposes. I don't doubt they do want to go nuclear, but it does show some recognition of agreeing to oversight and abiding by the wishes of the peaceful world, to a degree. Obama doesn't get any credit for this from Krauthammer/Wayne, and eternally gets ridiculed.
What is their plan? It's easy to eternally criticize, without anything of substance to offer otherwise. And the criticism is even arguable, and a stretch made for political gain.
The Brazilian leader is being linked as some kind of signal of a further issues of Obama and/or U.S. weakness, and essentially he was a mediator to help broker a deal to have Iran provide low grade uranium to another country - what the security council and most uncertain world countries had asked for from Iran to help verify their comments about not doing it for warlike purposes. I don't doubt they do want to go nuclear, but it does show some recognition of agreeing to oversight and abiding by the wishes of the peaceful world, to a degree. Obama doesn't get any credit for this from Krauthammer/Wayne, and eternally gets ridiculed.
What is their plan? It's easy to eternally criticize, without anything of substance to offer otherwise. And the criticism is even arguable, and a stretch made for political gain.
Has dtb told us yet how to handle Iran?
If he has all the answers why does he keep them from us?
If he has all the answers why does he keep them from us?
Why don't we help the people of Iran overthrow there leadership.I know it sds. crazy but its obvious that there a dictator run country.
Let's help the people of Iran to take over the country.I admit there's no guarantee that they will run it our way but it would be a start.I know its a long shot but its a thought.
Supply with everything they need and let all hell break lose.
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Rusty
the CIA has been doing that for years. What do you think the green movement was about in the last elections in Iran.
Iran made statements that the West was involved and we were hook line and sinkers.
The trouble is that Iran has the Revolutionary Guard and in a dictatorship you dont exactly get to congregate and talk without people getting killed and thrown in prison.
They hang people there for drinking alcohol.
There is no chance that Armadinnerjacket is getting overthrown . None.
--13 replies since and not a peep--similiar response to question of experience/qualifications pre election
Promise anything--do nothing --and take no responsiblity for failures--
Yep he and pelosi and reid are perfect trio for the applogize for america tour--every foreign power sees him for what he is-
--one weak little liberal bitch.
Their only concern is will millitary and real powers that be -bitch slap him like on Gitmo-
I disagree.The green movement mostly were demonstrations.With our help we could take the next step.That was my point.
--13 replies since and not a peep--similiar response to question of experience/qualifications pre election
Again I see you continue to expect your questions to be answered, and toss out ridicule if they aren't. So, I'll stop this line of commentary with a list I found of 90 things Obama has done right - depending on your opinion of him and what you personally believe. The beauty of your question is that you can summarily dismiss the entire list because you don't like him or his political stance - and continue to say he's done nothing right, Wayne. For the sake of answering your question, here goes.
Now that I've answered it, perhaps you can answer my question and others questions of you in this same thread. If you didn't see it, go back and check.
Here is a list of Obama's accomplishments as of August 2009:
Ordered all federal agencies to undertake a study and make recommendations for ways to cut spending;
Ordered a review of all federal operations to identify and cut wasteful spending and practices;
Instituted enforcements for equal pay for women;
Beginning the withdrawal of US troops from Iraq;
Families of fallen soldiers have expenses covered to be on hand when the body arrives at Dover A.F.B.;
Ended media "blackout" on war casualties; reporting full information;
Ended media "blackout" on covering the return of fallen soldiers to Dover A.F.B.; the media is now permitted to do so pending adherence to respectful rules and approval of fallen soldier's family;
The White House and federal government are respecting the Freedom of Information Act;
Instructed all federal agencies to promote openness and transparency as much as possible;
Limits on lobbyists' access to the White House;
Limits on White House aides working for lobbyists after their tenure in the administration;
Ended the previous "stop-loss" policy that kept soldiers in Iraq/Afghanistan longer than their enlistment date;
Phasing out the expensive F-22 war plane and other outdated weapons systems, which weren't even used or needed in Iraq/Afghanistan;
Removed restrictions on embryonic stem-cell research;
Federal support for stem-cell and new biomedical research;
New federal funding for science and research labs;
States are permitted to enact federal fuel efficiency standards above federal standards;
Increased infrastructure spending (roads, bridges, power plants...) after years of neglect;
Funds for high-speed, broadband Internet access to K-12 schools;
New funds for school construction;
The prison at Guantanamo Bay is being phased out;
US Auto industry rescue plan;
Housing rescue plan;
$789 billion economic stimulus plan;
The public can meet with federal housing insurers to refinance (the new plan can be completed in one day) a mortgage if they are having trouble paying;
US financial and banking rescue plan;
The "secret detention" facilities in Eastern Europe and elsewhere are being closed;
Ended the previous policy; the US now has a no torture policy and is in compliance with the Geneva Convention standards;
Better body armor is now being provided to our troops;
The missile defense program is being cut by $1.4 billion in 2010;
Restarted the nuclear non-proliferation talks and building back up the nuclear inspection infrastructure/protocols;
Reengaged in the treaties/agreements to protect the Antarctic;
Reengaged in the agreements/talks on global warming and greenhouse gas emissions;
Visited more countries and met with more world leaders than any president in his first six months in office;
Successful release of US captain held by Somali pirates; authorized the SEALS to do their job;
US Navy increasing patrols off Somali coast;
Attractive tax write-offs for those who buy hybrid automobiles;
"Cash for clunkers" program offers vouchers to trade in fuel inefficient, polluting old cars for new cars; stimulates auto sales;
Announced plans to purchase fuel efficient American-made fleet for the federal government;
Expanded the SCHIP program to cover health care for 4 million more children;
Signed national service legislation; expanded national youth service program;
Instituted a new policy on Cuba, allowing Cuban families to return "home" to visit loved ones;
Ended the previous policy of not regulating and labeling carbon dioxide emissions;
Expanding vaccination programs;
Immediate and efficient response to the floods in North Dakota and other natural disasters;
Closed offshore tax safe havens;
Negotiated deal with Swiss banks to permit US government to gain access to records of tax evaders and criminals;
Ended the previous policy of offering tax benefits to corporations who outsource American jobs; the new policy is to promote in-sourcing to bring jobs back;
Ended the previous practice of protecting credit card companies; in place of it are new consumer protections from credit card industry's predatory practices;
Energy producing plants must begin preparing to produce 15% of their energy from renewable sources;
Lower drug costs for seniors;
Ended the previous practice of forbidding Medicare from negotiating with drug manufacturers for cheaper drugs; the federal government is now realizing hundreds of millions in savings;
Increasing pay and benefits for military personnel;
Improved housing for military personnel;
Initiating a new policy to promote federal hiring of military spouses;
Improved conditions at Walter Reed Military Hospital and other military hospitals;
Increasing student loans;
Increasing opportunities in AmeriCorps program;
Sent envoys to Middle East and other parts of the world that had been neglected for years; reengaging in multilateral and bilateral talks and diplomacy;
Established a new cyber security office;
Beginning the process of reforming and restructuring the military 20 years after the Cold War to a more modern fighting force... this includes new procurement policies, increasing size of military, new technology and cyber units and operations, etc.;
Ended previous policy of awarding no-bid defense contracts;
Ordered a review of hurricane and natural disaster preparedness;
Established a National Performance Officer charged with saving the federal government money and making federal operations more efficient;
Students struggling to make college loan payments can have their loans refinanced;
Improving benefits for veterans;
Many more press conferences and town halls and much more media access than previous administration;
Instituted a new focus on mortgage fraud;
The FDA is now regulating tobacco;
Ended previous policy of cutting the FDA and circumventing FDA rules;
Ended previous practice of having White House aides rewrite scientific and environmental rules, regulations, and reports;
Authorized discussions with North Korea and private mission by Pres. Bill Clinton to secure the release of two Americans held in prisons;
Authorized discussions with Myanmar and mission by Sen. Jim Webb to secure the release of an American held captive;
Making more loans available to small businesses;
Established independent commission to make recommendations on slowing the costs of Medicare;
Appointment of first Latina to the Supreme Court;
Authorized construction/opening of additional health centers to care for veterans;
Limited salaries of senior White House aides; cut to $100,000;
Renewed loan guarantees for Israel;
Changed the failing/status quo military command in Afghanistan;
Deployed additional troops to Afghanistan;
New Afghan War policy that limits aerial bombing and prioritizes aid, development of infrastructure, diplomacy, and good government practices by Afghans;
Announced the long-term development of a national energy grid with renewable sources and cleaner, efficient energy production;
Returned money authorized for refurbishment of White House offices and private living quarters;
Paid for redecorations of White House living quarters out of his own pocket;
Held first Seder in White House;
Attempting to reform the nation's healthcare system which is the most expensive in the world yet leaves almost 50 million without health insurance and millions more underinsured;
Has put the ball in play for comprehensive immigration reform;
Has announced his intention to push for energy reform; and
Has announced his intention to push for education reform.
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No one knows exactly how to deal with Iran. You are foolish to think anything differant.
Closing Gitmo is something that has to be done. Whats the fawking problem ?
Any prisinors still incarcerated there , I would shoot them in the head and be done with that shit. Maybe even hang a few of them in pig oil.
The surge in Iraq ? Let them fawkers defend their own country now. We should pull back and just assist when absoulutely required.
Reduce troops in Afghanastan ?
We have built it up to where it should have been when George and President Cheney were busy lieing about Iraq.
Obama has been right with the economy
He pulled us out of the depths of depressions that George W put us in on purpose and was laughing as he went out of office.
take the blinders off DTBlackgumby. You are only as big a fool as when you wake up in the morning and start thinking you're neocon right wing dumb ass thoughts.
its anti american
when you moving to China like you said you were
Get out !
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did you even read this post ?
take a lesson from Illum and at least read before you try to answer .
Geezzz Louise !
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I got to your 1st item and had to scratch my head--unless you can show us how these "proposed" spending cuts--led to greatest spending binge in history--I got to conclude your grading Gumby on rhetoric (grifts) rather than action--and shouldn't you have added his pay as you go or era of responsibilty grifts here as well--if thats your guidelines
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You asked for one thing that Obama has done, reveled in some solo fact that nobody would answer it, I give you a list of almost a hundred things, and you summarily dismiss it. Same as it always is, same as it always was. At least you had to fall back on your right wing rhetoric, instead of your smirky antagonistic rant for a change. Asked and answered, counselor.
I also note you ignore and/or hide from my (and others) question here, which is also understandable. If you care to answer it - feel free. If not, I understand.
I also note you ignore and/or hide from my (and others) question here, which is also understandable. If you care to answer it - feel free. If not, I understand.
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I understand also
DTBlackgumby is a complete nincompoop.
DTBlackgumby
you forgot to answer about what you would do if you were President to get Iran to get with the program.
Since you have not answered twice now I will have to assume that you have no fawking clue as usual and you should stop critizing others about it.
Geez Louise !
you forgot to answer about what you would do if you were President to get Iran to get with the program.
Since you have not answered twice now I will have to assume that you have no fawking clue as usual and you should stop critizing others about it.
Geez Louise !
Sorry Chad I will go through list more thourougly--been busy as beaver today--but so far him being responsible for
--troops leaving in Iraq-
-anything claim to spending cuts-
-no lobbyist is whitehouse
are surely for amusment only--
After taking more time on going over your points I believe you made an error--this looks just like an "Obama Exposed" list to me
others just off top of my head
"Instituted enforcements for equal pay for women;
--Yep expanded time limits for lawsuits
The White House and federal government are respecting the Freedom of Information Act;
-- unless it info on Gumby or associates
Instructed all federal agencies to promote openness and transparency as much as possible
--Yep closed doors-midnight at the oasis-dems only
Limits on lobbyists' access to the White House;
Limits on White House aides working for lobbyists after their tenure in the administration;
--see above
The prison at Guantanamo Bay is being phased out;
--see above
The missile defense program is being cut by $1.4 billion in 2010;
hmm only thing dems ever cut-defense
Visited more countries and met with more world leaders than any president in his first six months in office;
--eg most traveling expese ever by pres in 1st 6 months
"Cash for clunkers"
-more billions of taxpayer funds for "spending cuts"
Expanded the SCHIP program to cover health care for 4 million more children;
--covers children of families with up to $80,000 income
Appointment of first Latina to the Supreme Court;
--WOW
Attempting to reform the nation's healthcare system which is the most expensive in the world yet leaves almost 50 million without health insurance and millions more underinsured;
--its 30 mill with over 1/2 being illegals
I guess beauty (accomplishments) are in eye of beholder :0008
--troops leaving in Iraq-
-anything claim to spending cuts-
-no lobbyist is whitehouse
are surely for amusment only--
After taking more time on going over your points I believe you made an error--this looks just like an "Obama Exposed" list to me
others just off top of my head
"Instituted enforcements for equal pay for women;
--Yep expanded time limits for lawsuits
The White House and federal government are respecting the Freedom of Information Act;
-- unless it info on Gumby or associates
Instructed all federal agencies to promote openness and transparency as much as possible
--Yep closed doors-midnight at the oasis-dems only
Limits on lobbyists' access to the White House;
Limits on White House aides working for lobbyists after their tenure in the administration;
--see above
The prison at Guantanamo Bay is being phased out;
--see above
The missile defense program is being cut by $1.4 billion in 2010;
hmm only thing dems ever cut-defense
Visited more countries and met with more world leaders than any president in his first six months in office;
--eg most traveling expese ever by pres in 1st 6 months
"Cash for clunkers"
-more billions of taxpayer funds for "spending cuts"
Expanded the SCHIP program to cover health care for 4 million more children;
--covers children of families with up to $80,000 income
Appointment of first Latina to the Supreme Court;
--WOW
Attempting to reform the nation's healthcare system which is the most expensive in the world yet leaves almost 50 million without health insurance and millions more underinsured;
--its 30 mill with over 1/2 being illegals
I guess beauty (accomplishments) are in eye of beholder :0008
