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[Chadman]

That's right, Wayne. That was my point - you asked for something he's done right, and the only thing you would ever allow to be right would be something done by someone on the right. You asked for one thing. Do I have to pick one of the 90 out and make you deal with it? That's the beauty of your scenario - you can never be wrong.

I note you still haven't answered my question. Do you need help finding it - or are you avoiding it? :SIB

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

What was your question?
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and I believe your list originated here--

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/...f-Pres.-Obama-Which-The-Media-Fails-to-Report
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I can think of several things he's done right but you wouldn't find them on liberal wish list--as most are things he said he would change when he was living in land of oz--and once in office and looked around he found out was real world was like.

 

[Chadman]

I'll help you out even more, Wayne. Here is the question(s). Feel free to answer or avoid:

Wayne, I too would like to hear your plan for what we should do with Iran. How exactly do you propose we deal with the leader there, and what's going on in the country. Should we declare war on them, and invade the country? You seemingly don't - along with other right wing Iran commentators - feel that sanctions are enough. You don't feel that attacking Iraq to put our military squarely next to the country and establish the second largest airport - and I believe the largest military air base in the world - was enough. Keeping more than 100,000 troops there indefinitely, even after withdrawing unnecessary troops, is not enough. Does Krauthammer and others have a plan? Are you all in agreement that our only choice - the only appropriate choice - is to attack Iraq?

I don't see what else is left. Maybe you do? And if you think we should attack them, how do you propose we pay for it, considering your concerns about the deficit, and thinking we should stay in Iraq and engage in all out war with the "enemy" in Afghanistan?

After that, I'll help you on the "list" issue. Remembering that you asked ANYONE for ONE thing Obama has done right. I'm guessing - as you've done already - you will cherry pick the list to suit your answering capabilities. I'll toss up a handful, and let's see if you can dismiss ALL of these. Otherwise, your request (as everyone but you can see) has been filled:

Families of fallen soldiers have expenses covered to be on hand when the body arrives at Dover A.F.B.;

Better body armor is now being provided to our troops;

Successful release of US captain held by Somali pirates; authorized the SEALS to do their job;

Established a new cyber security office;

Ended previous policy of awarding no-bid defense contracts;

Authorized construction/opening of additional health centers to care for veterans;

Limited salaries of senior White House aides; cut to $100,000;

Returned money authorized for refurbishment of White House offices and private living quarters;

Paid for redecorations of White House living quarters out of his own pocket;

 

[Chadman]

Oh, I almost forgot to add this:

:0corn

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

I'll help you out even more, Wayne. Here is the question(s). Feel free to answer or avoid:

Wayne, I too would like to hear your plan for what we should do with Iran. How exactly do you propose we deal with the leader there, and what's going on in the country. Should we declare war on them, and invade the country? You seemingly don't - along with other right wing Iran commentators - feel that sanctions are enough. You don't feel that attacking Iraq to put our military squarely next to the country and establish the second largest airport - and I believe the largest military air base in the world - was enough. Keeping more than 100,000 troops there indefinitely, even after withdrawing unnecessary troops, is not enough. Does Krauthammer and others have a plan? Are you all in agreement that our only choice - the only appropriate choice - is to attack Iraq?

I don't see what else is left. Maybe you do? And if you think we should attack them, how do you propose we pay for it, considering your concerns about the deficit, and thinking we should stay in Iraq and engage in all out war with the "enemy" in Afghanistan?

After that, I'll help you on the "list" issue. Remembering that you asked ANYONE for ONE thing Obama has done right. I'm guessing - as you've done already - you will cherry pick the list to suit your answering capabilities. I'll toss up a handful, and let's see if you can dismiss ALL of these. Otherwise, your request (as everyone but you can see) has been filled:

Families of fallen soldiers have expenses covered to be on hand when the body arrives at Dover A.F.B.;

Better body armor is now being provided to our troops;

Successful release of US captain held by Somali pirates; authorized the SEALS to do their job;

Established a new cyber security office;

Ended previous policy of awarding no-bid defense contracts;

Authorized construction/opening of additional health centers to care for veterans;

Limited salaries of senior White House aides; cut to $100,000;

Returned money authorized for refurbishment of White House offices and private living quarters;

Paid for redecorations of White House living quarters out of his own pocket;

I can't think of any questions I would avoid

On Iran--back years ago we could only handle so many axis of evil--if you remember the Euro were responsible for negotiations with Iran and got same results as O and everyone gets with kumbaya approach--the same thing they got with Iraq--not but the finger.

1st when we had all the protesting in Iran I would have backed protestors instead of shunning them--now believe only thing left is naval blockaide enforcing sanctions. If they want to fire 1st shot--so be it. If only thing we do is gum bumping--they will have nuke--unless isreal steps up.

Your list is fine and will go along with all espcially anything for troops --but you can scratch the no bid contracts --it is another grift--below just one example--

Despite President Obama's long history of criticizing the Bush administration for "sweetheart deals" with favored contractors, the Obama administration this month awarded a $25 million federal contract for work in Afghanistan to a company owned by a Democratic campaign contributor without entertaining competitive bids--

The contract, awarded on Jan. 4 to Checchi & Company Consulting, Inc., a Washington-based firm owned by economist and Democratic donor Vincent V. Checchi, will pay the firm $24,673,427 to provide "rule of law stabilization services" in war-torn Afghanistan.

 

[Trampled Underfoot]

I can't think of any questions I would avoid

On Iran--back years ago we could only handle so many axis of evil--if you remember the Euro were responsible for negotiations with Iran and got same results as O and everyone gets with kumbaya approach--the same thing they got with Iraq--not but the finger.

1st when we had all the protesting in Iran I would have backed protestors instead of shunning them--now believe only thing left is naval blockaide enforcing sanctions. If they want to fire 1st shot--so be it. If only thing we do is gum bumping--they will have nuke--unless isreal steps up.

Your list is fine and will go along with all espcially anything for troops --but you can scratch the no bid contracts --it is another grift--below just one example--

Despite President Obama's long history of criticizing the Bush administration for "sweetheart deals" with favored contractors, the Obama administration this month awarded a $25 million federal contract for work in Afghanistan to a company owned by a Democratic campaign contributor without entertaining competitive bids--

The contract, awarded on Jan. 4 to Checchi & Company Consulting, Inc., a Washington-based firm owned by economist and Democratic donor Vincent V. Checchi, will pay the firm $24,673,427 to provide "rule of law stabilization services" in war-torn Afghanistan.

You have got to knock this shit off. Your blind support for one party just makes you look foolish.

 

[Chadman]

On the no-bid thing - he should definitely be held to the standard, and if he did this, it should be very public and criticized. I would do that, don't worry. But I would think that would be a single event scenario, and would like to know all particulars of plan and this situation. Was it really the Obama administration that awarded this contract? Maybe so, would be curious. I know this situation was uncovered by Fox News, so there's that.

How exactly did "we" shun the protestors in Iran. How exactly could we have shown more support for them? As for the naval blockade, hasn't the Obama administration sent more naval warships and firepower to the area? Meaning, I would think, a precursor to what you describe? Seems he's been fairly prudent to date, and he's done almost everything you would suggest to do to this point. I see nothing you are describing that he could have done much differently, but of course you have BIG criticisms - along with your boy Krautie - of what Obama has or has not done.

Interesting. :0074

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

On the no-bid thing - he should definitely be held to the standard, and if he did this, it should be very public and criticized. I would do that, don't worry. But I would think that would be a single event scenario, and would like to know all particulars of plan and this situation. Was it really the Obama administration that awarded this contract? Maybe so, would be curious. I know this situation was uncovered by Fox News, so there's that.

How exactly did "we" shun the protestors in Iran. How exactly could we have shown more support for them? As for the naval blockade, hasn't the Obama administration sent more naval warships and firepower to the area? Meaning, I would think, a precursor to what you describe? Seems he's been fairly prudent to date, and he's done almost everything you would suggest to do to this point. I see nothing you are describing that he could have done much differently, but of course you have BIG criticisms - along with your boy Krautie - of what Obama has or has not done.

Interesting. :0074

odd Chad but I'm kinda on the other side of the no bid thing--sometimes there are only few contractors able to do job--my beef was his ranting about it--then doing it.

Was also happy about this headline I just read--
Obama to send 1,200 troops to US-Mexico border (AP) :0074

Is also doing much better in war in afgan than I would have thought also

--so not all beefs with him.

 

[rusty]

That's how to debate a issue DTB and Chad.
Very intelligent in site .I try with the radicals but it's futile due to lack of intelligence on there part.

It also doesn't help that there more into personal attacks that the issues themselves.It's actually pretty sad if you ask me.

 

[shawn555]

That's how to debate a issue DTB and Chad.
Very intelligent in site .I try with the radicals but it's futile due to lack of intelligence on there part.

It also doesn't help that there more into personal attacks that the issues themselves.It's actually pretty sad if you ask me.

:mj07: :mj07: :mj07:

 

[Lumi]

That's how to debate a issue DTB and Chad.
Very intelligent in site .I try with the radicals but it's futile due to lack of intelligence on there part.

It also doesn't help that there more into personal attacks that the issues themselves.It's actually pretty sad if you ask me. (No) ? mark :shrug: )

Shawn,

you missed a few

I try to be a perfectionist, not that I am perfect, but damn close, if it weren't for all the things I have fucked up. :0008

 

[shawn555]

Shawn,

you missed a few

I try to be a perfectionist, not that I am perfect, but damn close, if it weren't for all the things I have fucked up. :0008

Yeah I could have just put the entire post in bold.

 

[Lumi]

Yeah I could have just put the entire post in bold.

He did capitalize "That" to begin the paragraph :0074

 

[Trampled Underfoot]

That's how to debate a issue DTB and Chad.
Very intelligent in site .I try with the radicals but it's futile due to lack of intelligence on there part.

It also doesn't help that there more into personal attacks that the issues themselves.It's actually pretty sad if you ask me.

This is the one that cracked me up.

I really enjoy it when he posts. He should be pissed at God for giving him shit for brains.

 

[Chadman]

Wayne and I have usually always been able to discuss issues and leave personal BS out of it. Of course we both challenge and get a little personal from time to time, but I respect his views most of the time. I don't share in much of the personal attacks and the insults saying he's dumb, blind, etc. In fact, I think he presents his side of the issue in strong ways, backed up by info and facts in most cases. Not many do.

But, all that being said, he's wrong about most things...