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Oklahoma -4 over Texas
I know Texas will be hot and angry after losing to ucla but I am not sure they have the te for this game. See watching Oklahoma I think they hide in the weeds before a big game. Look at FSU, here the spooners struggle then they lay the wood on FSU. Texas just has not looked very good this year. They always have talent but I think they lack leadership and on offense they lack an identity. They have a running back by committee and it is not working. They have been sloppy with the ball and that not something Mack brown is used to seeing. I like Oklahoma ability to make plays in big games and this is a very big stage. I think looking at both teams all season they have not dominated but it seems thAt Oklahoma has turned it on when needed. Looking at Texas vs Texas tech, then ucla the horns just seem not to have the ability or that one person to lean on and it has hurt them. This is a big stage so the team that has not performed will struggle and IMO that's the longhorns. I think people will dismiss the ucla loss as a look ahead game but I think even if Texas came to play they have not impressed.

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Totally agree. TX is not the same team this year. I have a feeling Gilbert's not the guy and some hotshot QB will take his place next year.
 

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Totally agree. TX is not the same team this year. I have a feeling Gilbert's not the guy and some hotshot QB will take his place next year.

SCREW NEXT YEAR, whos the backup this year?

I said the same thing this morning talking to a co-worker
 

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I like OU as well....TX has not looked good at all yet....


Great to see your post Irish

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SCREW NEXT YEAR, whos the backup this year?

I said the same thing this morning talking to a co-worker

Unfortunately for them, they don't have a backup this year. Chiles is now a WR and Harris quit the team. Who knows if the two freshmen Wood and McCoy are ready. :shrug:
 

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BC (+3) over ND
Okay so what I thought could happen against vt happened for BC. The qb cannot do a thing to help this team offensively. He has a good line and has been given time but he just can't make the throws. In comes ND they want a win but they struggle to stop the run and that means BC should have an offensive game plan that should work. I personally think VT is more difficult to game plan against and BC did a great job. If not for Stinkski they are in that game. I am just wondering how bad the back up is if they have not given him a go. Still I like BC to play well at home and even though I think ND has the edge in the qb department and wr department I think the eagles are better at running back o-line and defense. I saw a ND team that really struggled at times against the Stanford defense and I think BC is a little stronger defensively. This is a good match up. I think both teams want this win and both are strong in different areas. The head coach at BC is about defense and the coat at ND is offense. All factors considered I like the offense of BC to keep it close while the defense prevents it from getting one sided. If you have not seen BC junior running back then you are missing out. The kid can play and he has three solid NFL prospects blocking for him. The only reason I worry again is the BC qb but I think the ND defense will be easier to make plays against then VT. He should do just enough and I think BC can win. All the qb has to do is hit a few passes to keep the linebackers and safeties off the line. Do that and BC has a very good shot. If they don't then the defense will again have to make it all happen and I am in trouble.

Thanks for the info and words guys. It's been a rough few weeks and I am battling through so I'll try to post more. Still bitter about the lsu play last week. Man they need a better qb if they want the glass trophy dream to be possible.
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I'll (+17.5) over Ohio st
Well first Ill is playing better football this year. I am not saying they are in the OSU class but they play hard. The offense has looked good of late and they have a decent qb under center. He has a good arm but I like his ability to run. Now most qb scramble to buy time but this kid also runs for yardage and is not afraid to get hit. That can be bad in this game but I think his toughness and playmaking has won his teams support and the offense plays hard for him. Everyone knows Ohio st will win this game but this is the Ill big game and they get it at home. I don't think the fighting illini crowd will scare Ohio st but it will energize Illinois. Right now you have to think Ohio st is getting board with these games and may start looking ahead and that's where a home dog might just stay within the line. I respect Ohio state and I know they are a solid read but I also like a home double digit in conference dog with nothing to loss and everything to gain.

FSU (-7) over UVA
Ponder has not looked good on the road and UVA has a lot of fight in them so spotting them seven at home is a bit of a problem. I think Jimbo should drill the Oklahoma game into this teams head and show them they cannot play like that on the road and they need to not be embarrassed again. The offense has a good running attack and they always have seed at wr. I worry about UVA defensive pressure breaking the fsu o-line. UVA throws a lot of pressure on an offense and it all comes down to how ponder reads and reacts to the Iva defense. I like him to change hieman voters opinion after the Oklahoma game. UVA has shown they are tough and FSU now knows they cannot just walk in and get an easy win. Everything for me points to UVA they are a good home team, they play hard, they believe in the coach, fsu is a poor road team and spotting a td. Still as much as UVA will fight fsu should fight back and they have the edge in ability in almost every position. Losing a game means fsu has to play well in conference to make some waves. I think the acc is down this year but fsu has a shot to come out of it if they play well. That means finding leadership and I believe that's where ponder steps up. I would like to see the guys scramble a bit more but I think the wr speed will be a problem for UVA. With the pressure UVA throws they ability to get off the line is big and Fay can do that at wr. This again will be a good game and in the end I think fsu just has the edge and spotting a td is alright. That means if it is a close game them fsu will try to keep it above a td to avoid a loss and avoid leaving it the defense hands.

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I'd stay well away from backing BC to be honest. They just suck and the Irish will stack the box and make this new guy throw the ball. Chesnut Hill on a Saturday night will be a factor but this is a fake BC team and I can't see them covering a FG.
 

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Thanks for the caution solo but after seeing they are going with rettig I like BC even more. My thought was they would give stinky another go or go with the back up. But this is supposed to be the guy for BC and he has a nice opportunity for a coming out party.

Oregon (-7) over Stanford
I am going on this because of the home field advantage. The ducks have the offense rolling and they have seen some pretty solid talent. Stanford has played very well and against ND they came through but I believe the ducks offense is made to beat stanfords defense. The ducks spread you out and gash with the pass or run. Keeping the Stanford defense on their heels. I like the ducks speed on the defensive line to be able to keep Luck in the pocket. That's good and bad, if he is upright in the pocket all day that's bad. If this was in Stanford I would give the edge to Stanford but you have to think that origins offense has looked better against a tougher group. After wins against tenn and asu on the road they get their first test at home which is where the ducks play their best ball. They have two running backs which might wear down the Stanford defense. They have a lot of wr to use and the speed might be too deep for Stanford. I think Stanford can cover one or two of the guys but not them all. I think the ducks have a big edge in special team but IMO Stanford have the better coach. All things considered I like the ducks to he too deep at all the skill positions for Stanford. ND had a lot of opportunities wasted with open receivers, Oregon should take advantage. I also like the ducks defensively in this match up. Oregon gets a lot of pressure from the front four and they have speedy linebackers who can cover or spy Luck or blitz. I like the ducks o-line against Stanford because they don't have to account for all sorts of pressure because Oregon will spread the rest of the back seven out. I think stanford has the better qb but I like the stadium to make it hard for him. I give Stanford a lot of respect but they have beaten some easy teams. Don't say ucla is good because they beat Texas they are not a good team. So the big wins for atanford are wake, ucla and ND. Two of the three at home so even though I respect Stanford Oregon has beaten tenn in tenn by double digits and beat asu in asu by double digits and the team that have come in to the duck pond this year have almost seen the century mark scored against them. Normally I think a td is a lot when conference rivals or concerned top dogs match up but I also think it makes everyone look at Stanford as value.

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Okie St (-3) over Texas A&M
I like the aggies QB and I think they have the best defensive player in the game tonight but I think as always they are untested and not a good road team. I expect a good game but I like the o-line of Okie St the running back of okie state and I really like the QB even though he has not been great he still has a lot of maturity and can control this game. They have the home field and even though nboth teams have played IMO easier teams Okie St beat a Tulsa team with a functioning offense pretty badly. I like the offense to out score an Aggie team that just will not have enough to keep pace.

Okie St (-1.5) over Texas A&M 1st Half

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Wisky (-2) over much st
I think both teams might be a little window dressing. Both teams run the ball and both teams hang their hat on wins against sub par teams in Arizona and ND. One of the most impressive call in overtime by MSU i have ever seen to beat ND. Then a blocked fg for wisky to beat Arizona st. Looking at this game I thing wisky comes in with a bit of a better defense because although Arizona st missed that field go the scoring drives came off big special teams play. One the other side the ND game came down to who had the ball last because no one was stopping the other. Wisky has a bit of a bigger and stronger line. Both qb are not too impressive. MSU does have a nice home field advantage but they teams match up well together still I think MSU will stall out and that will make them press on offense and then Wisconsin can grid them out. Keeping MSU runner away from the edge would be a good way to limit them. MSU has the edge at lb but outside that wisky has the edge so I think they can one on one cover the wide outs and limit the run force a limited qb to beat you. Wisky will grind on the ground and eventually it will wear down the front four and lbs and then wisky can pull away. Emotions as head coach comes back but honestly, is that a plus? You will more than likely be worried about his stress as a player and as a coach are you going to be risky to put that on him. I like wisky to just grind them down and 2 is some value.

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BYU (-5) over Utah st
Most of the info I knew have been mentioned in IE great thread. IE you do a great job. Looking at this it comes down to depth. Utah st has a good group of players but they can bounce back after all the injuries. I think BYU is a deeper team and they can replace some of the guys missed. I know the line has stopes because BYU qb is done but they have some solid ladders behind him and even though they are not as talented as the frosh they have some good ability to run this offense. Defense again depth is on BYU side and I give them the up side here. Utah has home field and that's big but the injuries will have this team down a bit and BYU comes in business as usual. They are the better team by a slim margin and with all the injuries BYU can out play Utah state.

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UNC (-14) over ECU
Ecu showed me they just are not that good on the road against a vt team. Unc off a win should play a little more inspired and defensively they should contain Davis.

Tenn (+16.5) over LSU
Since I have see lsu qb play look TERRIBLE over his games I just like this number. I see a lot of value in an sec team getting 16 even on the road with a poor qb.

Ol miss (-3) over Kentucky
I think watch Ol miss last week they are starting to figure out how to move the ball. Masoli is a dummy but he does need time to learn this offense after all he has been in the read option spread the last few years.

Georgia (-4.5) over Colorado
Power and speed and galant of the sec IMO is better than what Colorado brings to the table. Georgia should be hungry for a win and with richt on the hot seat he should be focused here.

Nc st (+4.5) over VT
I am just not sold on vt. Last week they beat a BC team that has trash at qb but were held in check by the BC defense for most of the day. Nc st has the better qb and inspired defense a coach that had Vzt number when he was at BC and home field. Got see value here.

Wash (+10) over USC
Just don't think that much of USC and the lane kiffin go for two experiment. Wash coach knows kiffin well and looked is good enough to make some plays to stay in this game.

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bc will be starting true fresh over shinski--and its not the kid that came in at end of game vs vt
 

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Gotta disagree regarding the MichSt and Wisky qbs not being too impressive.

Even taking into account that combined both teams have played only one legit defense..that being Ariz St....

Tolzien 851 yds...76 % :scared ..10.1 yd/att...5 tds..2 ints

Cousins 863 yds..67%..9.48 yd/att..6 td...2 int

Would classify both as at least above average.

Hope you're correct on my boys picking up a W.

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RRC,
I am saying they are not guys that are going to put teams on their back and pass for three plus TD's against a good defense. I think there are only a handful of good QB's this season. I would not consider Mallett or Loocker good qb's I would say Kellen Moore, Luck, Pryor is getting there... jsut my opinion. Not saying by the end of the season they cant be great but these are running teams for a reason, but they can pass the ball.

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