U.S. hunger remains at highest levels in 15 years

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Where SHOULD THE LINE BE DRAWN for the Middle Class ?

Is it really at 250,000 ?

Some may think so, and in some areas of the nation it really is Middle Class or upper middle class.

In other areas, it is struggling month to month.

You may scoff at that FACT, but it is true.

But....

Bringing all of this up has gotten away from the primary topic of the thread that TU has posted.

Well, at least the way my Libertarian mind works.

The United States spends FAR TO MUCH MONEY THAT WE DON'T HAVE On Foreign Aid ! Fighting Wars that will never end. Spending money on "Private Contractors" who work outside the law. There are American Troops in more than 150 Countries

How much of these expenditures can be spent on our own people?

Intersting what the definition of middle class is to different people:shrug:


as social classes lack clear boundaries and overlap there are no definite income thresholds as for what is considered middle class. Sociologist Leonard Beeghley identifies a male making $57,000 and a female making $40,000 with a combined households income of $97,000 as a typical middle class family.[31] Sociologists William Thompson and Joseph Hickey estimate an income range of roughly $35,000 to $75,000 for the lower middle class and $100,000 or more for the upper middle class. Many social scientists including economist Michael Zweig and sociologist Dennis Gilbert contend that middle class persons usually have above median incomes.
 
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I thought we were the most obese country on the planet. Now your saying the people are starving? Which is it? Can we have both.
Damn this country is screwed up. Just blame it on Bush.

Hmmmm so who would be eating all the food? Its not that hard to figure that one out.
 

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Wow Spongs U just dont get it. On the other point.....Lets line these kids up in a straight line.....9 out of 10 of the fat ones come from where.....yep u guessed it...WELFARE or very low income housing. It comes down to parenting...u tell me I am wrong and I will tell u if they were educated they would NOT have put themselves in that situation to be of low income because they wouldhave known how to eat and be healthy if they were of an educated family. GET off ur fat ass and go to work and STOP looking for handouts. I am tired of digging in my pocket because ur azz was too lazy to go get a job or to get educated. PS...MORE CHEETOS PLZ (cause thats all we have in the house...were on welfare)
 

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Hmm I'm trying to understand which is correct those saying america's starving or those on the child obesity kick.:shrug:

http://www.cdc.gov/HealthyYouth/obesity/
Childhood obesity has more than tripled in the past 30 years. The prevalence of obesity among children aged 6 to 11 years increased from 6.5% in 1980 to 19.6% in 2008. The prevalence of obesity among adolescents aged 12 to 19 years increased from 5.0% to 18.1%.<SUP>1,2</SUP>
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on more serious note

Many people in China are poor--I mean really poor by our standards --no cell phones/cars/tvs -no welfare-no food stamps--

Yet they are not starving and are content with life. The children take care of their aging parents as parents took care of them. Most houses never have door closed let alone locked -is no such thing as bars on windows--are no gangs-no crime--everyone helps their neighbors.

why--hate to beat a dead horse--but once again the obvious--Family values -it's a cultural thing.
 
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--are no gangs-no crime--everyone helps their neighbors.

why--hate to beat a dead horse--but once again the obvious--Family values -it's a cultural thing.

:shrug: :shrug:

Spiraling crime grips China


BEIJING | A series of grisly attacks in China, including school stabbings, a courthouse shooting and a slashing rampage on a train, have forced the public and officials to confront what analysts say is the long-hidden problem of spiraling violent crime.
Criminologists at home and abroad say violent incidents in China have long been underreported by police, but it's becoming harder for authorities to stifle news about the worst cases when ordinary people are quick to spread information via mobile phones and the Internet.
In the past two months, there have been five major assaults against schoolchildren, leaving 17 dead and more than 50 wounded. This week, two more attacks made headlines: A man burst into a court office in central China and fatally shot three judges, and on the same day, a woman slashed nine fellow passengers in sleeper compartments on an overnight train in the northeast.
The apparently random attacks in public spaces have shocked and frightened the public and left people desperate to understand why they're happening.
"Of course I am scared; what if this happens to us?" said Shen Caiyi, a Beijing mother, as she watched her 7-year-old son kick and block his way through a kung-fu class she hopes could help prepare him for any potential attack. "The events have shaken us. I think schools should have strengthened their security systems a long time ago."
According to official statistics, violent crime in China jumped 10 percent last year, with 5.3 million reported cases of homicide, robbery and rape. It was the first time since 2001 that violent crime increased, the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences said in its Chinese Rule of Law Blue Book, released in February.
Analysts like Pi Yiyun, a professor of criminology at the China University of Political Science and Law in Beijing, are skeptical about those figures.
Mr. Pi said he doesn't know what the actual rates are, but he doesn't think it's plausible that violent crime was falling between 2001 and 2008. He said provincial or county-level officials, not the central government, are likely misreporting their data.
"Many local officials believe the crime rate is just a number that can be randomly modified," he said. "They tend to cover up the truth and report a false number because a high crime rate might affect their chance of being promoted."
He said the big jump in 2009 could be an attempt to bring the figures closer in line with the real situation.
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Borge Bakken, an analyst on Chinese crime and professor of sociology at the University of Hong Kong, said his research indicates violence, particularly homicides, has been climbing since 1980.
"The real crime problem is much higher than the recorded official crime rates, and the police are well aware of that fact," he said.
Official anxiety about the spiraling crime problem is reflected clearly in this year's budget, with sharp spending increases for public security.
Analysts say China's problem is not a lack of police, high-tech security equipment or surveillance cameras, which are plentiful in the big cities, but simmering and widespread frustration over the growing wealth gap, corruption and too few legal channels for people who have grievances.
"Societies are pressure cookers - and Chinese society, arguably, is particularly high-pressure and has relatively few legitimate avenues for recourse and few legitimate ways to release intense psychological pressure," said Harold Tanner, a professor of Chinese history at the University of North Texas. "The system as a whole, even when it is working more or less as designed, does not provide people with enough legitimate avenues for pursuit of justice."
Mr. Tanner pointed out that several of the recent attacks were sparked by grudges.
State media said the man who killed three judges before committing suicide was upset over how the court had divided assets when he and his wife had divorced. One of the men who attacked schoolchildren had a rent dispute that local authorities refused to help him resolve.
 

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Yeah, Wayne, that's an interesting perspective - China has a great plan for family values - as long as the family only has one child... think of all the bad social issues they have figured out how to handle through killing female daughters and sterilizing mothers.

China's One Child Policy
One Child Policy in China Designed to Limit Population Growth
By Matt Rosenberg, About.com Guide
Nov 17 2010

China has proclaimed that it will continue its one child policy, which limits couples to having one child, through the 2006-2010 five year planning period.

China's one child policy was established by Chinese leader Deng Xiaoping in 1979 to limit communist China's population growth. Although designated a "temporary measure," it continues a quarter-century after its establishment. The policy limits couples to one child. Fines, pressures to abort a pregnancy, and even forced sterilization accompanied second or subsequent pregnancies.
 

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on more serious note

Many people in China are poor--I mean really poor by our standards --no cell phones/cars/tvs -no welfare-no food stamps--

Yet they are not starving and are content with life. The children take care of their aging parents as parents took care of them. Most houses never have door closed let alone locked -is no such thing as bars on windows--are no gangs-no crime--everyone helps their neighbors.

why--hate to beat a dead horse--but once again the obvious--Family values -it's a cultural thing.


Could you please provide a graph about something else to back up this load of horseshit?
 

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Hmm I'm trying to understand which is correct those saying america's starving or those on the child obesity kick.:shrug:

http://www.cdc.gov/HealthyYouth/obesity/
Childhood obesity has more than tripled in the past 30 years. The prevalence of obesity among children aged 6 to 11 years increased from 6.5% in 1980 to 19.6% in 2008. The prevalence of obesity among adolescents aged 12 to 19 years increased from 5.0% to 18.1%.<SUP>1,2</SUP>
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

on more serious note

Many people in China are poor--I mean really poor by our standards --no cell phones/cars/tvs -no welfare-no food stamps--

Yet they are not starving and are content with life. The children take care of their aging parents as parents took care of them. Most houses never have door closed let alone locked -is no such thing as bars on windows--are no gangs-no crime--everyone helps their neighbors.

why--hate to beat a dead horse--but once again the obvious--Family values -it's a cultural thing.

:shrug:

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doggie wants to move to China so he can be happy, free from crime, and can take care of his parents, one child, have plenty to eat and enjoy practicing his family values.

Buh-bye, doggie.
 

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Wow Spongs U just dont get it. On the other point.....Lets line these kids up in a straight line.....9 out of 10 of the fat ones come from where.....yep u guessed it...WELFARE or very low income housing. It comes down to parenting...u tell me I am wrong and I will tell u if they were educated they would NOT have put themselves in that situation to be of low income because they wouldhave known how to eat and be healthy if they were of an educated family. GET off ur fat ass and go to work and STOP looking for handouts. I am tired of digging in my pocket because ur azz was too lazy to go get a job or to get educated. PS...MORE CHEETOS PLZ (cause thats all we have in the house...were on welfare)

No u don't get it. It is always the welfare people with guys like u. Id be willing to bet that the welfare people are eatting better than others in this country. Im talking about parents who have both lost their jobs and have kids in a catholic schools. The teachers are instructed not to give the kids anything but try doing that with a kid who is hungry. This is happening right here in the good ole USA. Parents not taking their kids to the doctor because they lost their health insurance and now instead taking them to the school nurse. That is what is really happening. It is real easy to always blame welfare people for every problem in society. Shows great tunnel vision if ya ask me. Do i like welfare? No, but im smart enuf to know we got a lot bigger problems than that. Why is it that guys like u and Dogs never talk about that big giant welfare program the defense contractors get every year that is crippling this country's deficit? Ah let me guess. You think this is money well spent. Typical. Maybe there will come a day where guys like u and dogs could reach the age of reason and not have selective spending programs u dislike. I don't like Welfare or bloated defense spending. How about you? I don't like Welfare for our farmers. How about u?
 

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doggIe has a very simple world view -

1. If your surname is Hispanic, you are an illegal welfare cheat who will not work.

2. If you are black, you are a welfare cheat who will not work.

3. If your name ends in a vowel, you are a criminal involved in organized crime.

4. If you are a European, you are a lazy coward who will not work.

5. There are no exceptions to doggie's rules.

No wonder he feels lonely. In doggie's world there are only about 27 people who are supporting 300 million.
 
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