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hmmmm... that's odd. lemme check...

ok, sorry. it's the IS4S Salute to Veterans Bowl.

as usual, let's start with who's NOT playing.

troy - CB kaleno levine has declared for the draft and won't play. starting RB tae meadows is out. he averaged 4.4 yards/carry for a team that doesn't run the ball well. speaking of not running the ball well.... the Troy OL, which was already banged up, is now missing 2 more starters. LG paul bowling, who started the season as the starting C, and started the last 3 games at LG, is in the portal and won't play. and starting LT eli russ was injured in the sunbelt championship game, and will not play today. QB goose crowder (seriously? goose crowder? ok.) was also njured in the sunbelt championship game, but practiced this week and is expected to play. that said, his backup played about half the season and the two are nearly identical statistically.

jax st - RT reggie jackson (what???), who may be their best lineman, is in the portal and out for the game. there does appear to be quite a drop-off with his backup, nate smith. LG adrian gumm is also out. per the rankings on cfbdepth.com (i have NO idea if they are any good), his backup cam griffin is nearly as good a pass blocker and a much better run blocker.

jax st will run the ball. and run it some more. only navy, AF, and utah picked up more yards/game than the gamecocks. and they average 5.5/carry, which is 13th in the country. RB cam cook has topped 100 yards in all but 3 games this year and QB caden creel has rushed for 100+ in their last 5 games. troy gives up 4.7/rush, which is 106th in the country. freshman creel is ok throwing the ball, completing 61%, with 8 TDs and 4 INTs, while averaging 7 yards/att.

as i mentioned earlier, troy can't run the ball (2.8 yards/carry, 130th in the country). well, they can't throw the ball well either. their offense is just anemic. they average 4.7 yards/play. only 8 teams are worse. jacksonville st is meh against the run (middle of the pack nationally) and poor against the pass. but it's hard to imagine a weak troy offense taking advantage, especially with a decimated offensive line.

so how the hell did troy, with an ok defense and very poor offense, reach the sun belt championship game? good question. my first thought was turnovers. but they are practically dead even in that department. (jacksonville st is +9, 17th in the country) obviously the sun belt was weak, but still hard to figure how this team was successful this year.

one last note - and i mention this every year - teams with a head coach in his first year on the job have a poor record in bowls. last year they were 3-6 SU and 1-7-1 ATS. charles kelly is in his first year leading jacksonville st.

that coaching stat is so damn hard to overlook. but i have to bet the team that can dominate the game on the ground.

and while i was handicapping, the fucking line has been MOVING. son of a bitch.

jacksonville st (-2.5) 3 units

and let's try a parlay....

jacksonville st ML/1H Over 20.5 1 to win 1.6
 
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Wow. That is an awesome writeup! I got some of that info from VSIN writeups, but you put it together very nicely. Thanks.
 

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while i'm thinking about it... just saw they finally posted FCS lines for saturday. i'm going to keep riding the redbirds on the road. the ML is currently +105.
 
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Wow. That is an awesome writeup! I got some of that info from VSIN writeups, but you put it together very nicely. Thanks.
:smilies8

with all the opt-outs, it takes forever. this one was over 90 minutes. i'm gonna have to start earlier tomorrow, when there's 2 games!

hopefully it pays off. i really hate betting on a head coach in his first year at that school. i have no idea what drives it, but it's such a strong trend that shows no sign of abating.
 

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Good luck Smitty! I'm down in Florida where im not supposed to log in to espn and got warned for my violation. Your fault ....too convincing a thesis!
 
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ISIS BOWL

ISIS ???

Despicable Me What GIF



ISIS Sponsors a Bowl game?


Holy Shit😲😲😲
 
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you're brother is an American? Or a Canadian playing American football? :sneaky:

kickserv brother = Canadian🇨🇦



Note: kickserv also played NCAA sports...and he is Canadian. 🇨🇦



Junior44 = knows more stuff now



Note #2: Troy currently has a German, a Kiwi, and an Aussy on their team, just thought I'd throw that out there.
 

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have you been to Columbia restaurant in St. Armands Circle? we absolutely love it. we used to head down there every year. and now we've semi-seriously talked about going down specifically to eat there. well, probably the flagship location in ybor city. but that's how much we love it. the black bean soup is perfect. and if you order a pitcher of mojitos, the waiter makes it right at your table.

ok, i'm going to stop raving about their food, because i need to rant about how much i hate the jacksonville st coaching staff.
 
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have you been to Columbia restaurant in St. Armands Circle? we absolutely love it. we used to head down there every year. and now we've semi-seriously talked about going down specifically to eat there. well, probably the flagship location in ybor city. but that's how much we love it. the black bean soup is perfect. and if you order a pitcher of mojitos, the waiter makes it right at your table.

ok, i'm going to stop raving about their food, because i need to rant about how much i hate the jacksonville st coaching staff.
Ybor location is the very best!
 
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i've said it before, and i'll say it again... nobody knows less about football than fucking football coaches. you can probably count on one hand the number of competent coaches.

jacksonville state... up 7-0 and already in control of the game. troy has done absolutely nothing their first 3 possessions. SO WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU RUN A FLEA FLICKER FROM YOUR OWN 10-YARD LINE???? fucking morons. just gave troy 7 points.

next possession... at first, you remember you have a great run game. first play is a 17-yard run. terrific. then, inexplicably, you call 3 straight passes. to the surprise of ABSOLUTELY FUCKING NOBODY, those plays yielded a total of 3 yards. well, the only way to top that retarded play calling is... a fake punt! which gives the ball back to Troy at midfield. leading immediately to a field goal. you've now given an inept offense 10 points. and a ton of momentum.

this stupid fucking loss is completely on the jacksonville state coaching staff.

how they get paid to do this is beyond me.
 

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Ybor location is the very best!
it's so ridiculous. an entire block. i think we only made it to that one once. maybe twice. we were usually near sarasota.

but i would not be surprised if some day we literally fly down there just to eat at columbia.
 
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i've said it before, and i'll say it again... nobody knows less about football than fucking football coaches. you can probably count on one hand the number of competent coaches.

jacksonville state... up 7-0 and already in control of the game. troy has done absolutely nothing their first 3 possessions. SO WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU RUN A FLEA FLICKER FROM YOUR OWN 10-YARD LINE???? fucking morons. just gave troy 7 points.

next possession... at first, you remember you have a great run game. first play is a 17-yard run. terrific. then, inexplicably, you call 3 straight passes. to the surprise of ABSOLUTELY FUCKING NOBODY, those plays yielded a total of 3 yards. well, the only way to top that retarded play calling is... a fake punt! which gives the ball back to Troy at midfield. leading immediately to a field goal. you've now given an inept offense 10 points. and a ton of momentum.

this stupid fucking loss is completely on the jacksonville state coaching staff.

how they get paid to do this is beyond me.
Said the same thing. Complete incompetence— unless they smashed troy right after Jax state scored their TD 🤣
This series was a fucking joke too…
 

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kickserv brother = Canadian🇨🇦



Note: kickserv also played NCAA sports...and he is Canadian. 🇨🇦



Junior44 = knows more stuff now



Note #2: Troy currently has a German, a Kiwi, and an Aussy on their team, just thought I'd throw that out there.
well, at least I was right on 1 of my questions......... (y)
 
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Said the same thing. Complete incompetence— unless they smashed troy right after Jax state scored their TD 🤣
This series was a fucking joke too…
seriously. it's that bad. it's so incompetent that it looks like they're trying to lose.

on the season, they ran the ball almost twice as often as they passed. 607 rushes, 306 passes. in this first half? 15 passes and 12 runs. i don't care that cook is out. 90% of RB production is really on the OL.
 
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