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    another completely bizarre horizon ending ...

    detroit up 7 and shooting free throws with 0:10. miss the first. miss the second. wright state comes down and scores and draws a foul. hits the free throws. 0:04 and wright state doesn't foul. 4 point ending.
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    horizon league wednesday .....

    dont like to make a habit out of trying to playing opposite sides for each half. felt butler would come out strong and take the game to csu. but think the bulldogs are going to relax a little bit and let csu hang in the 12-14 point range in the final 20:00 cleveland state 2nd half (+3) (+101)
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    horizon league wednesday .....

    butler 1st half (-6.5) over cleveland state loyola-chicago/uw-green bay over 139.5 csu has one win in the last 30 years at hinkle fieldhouse, and that was last year when butler went ice cold in the 2nd half and blew a comfortable lead. butler coming off the milwaukee win, but just dont see csu...
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    Why is Ball/Buff Pick?

    :mj07: :mj07:
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    Most annoying word or phrase???

    funny ... but true. now of course, there are times when people genuinely mean it. but the ol' "good luck with your play" normally seems like it's a way for most people to wipe their hands clean of an incendiary bashing post they just made.
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    To all the Seachicken whiners

    counterpoint: http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/wcStory?contentId=5311588
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    2nd half: depaul/providence ......

    2nd half: duke/carolina over 81 for an acc game, a very small number of fouls called in the first half. carolina games have a tendency of really getting up and down in the second half. these teams got into the mid-70s at the break and neither is playing particularly well. 2nd half should find...
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    2nd half: depaul/providence ......

    let me add some more violins :violin: :violin: a true shame. :142crying it only took until february, but toledo finally played to their potential.
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    Quinn:Don't let the door hit you.

    whats really weird about the whole situation is that snyder IS a good coach. but he lost control of this program a long time ago. not sure why missouri hasn't cut ties yet (meaning before the season). snyder will go somewhere else and be a good coach. mizzou will be better once snyder leaves...
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    2nd half: depaul/providence ......

    under 78.5 (-120) pace is a little frenetic right now and both teams shooting well. but depaul should be able to get the necessary stops to close the door on this one and keep the 2nd half in the 70 or 72 range. both teams love to shoot jump shots so not a lot of free throws.
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    Why is Ball/Buff Pick?

    buffalo IS the better team; however, that doesn't mean very much. right now, buffalo just is not getting any production from their bench. their starting five is as good as anybody's in the conference ... but once they go to the bench, thats when things are getting dicey for them. ball state has...
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    johnnyb...west coast?

    teams in a home/home spot very rarely win in blowout fashion in both games. this isn't technically a home/home game (since there was one game in between) because they just played last monday -- but same principle applies. the team on the losing end normally makes the necessary changes for the...
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    Most annoying word or phrase???

    im not sure if its funny, annoying, or downright scary that you see a handful of posters say that something is "ludacris". that right there shows you how rap has infiltrated american culture on every level. apparently, far too many people know of the rap artist ... but don't know how to actually...
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    can we put the "fix" issue to rest please ....

    good stuff guys. theres been some valid points raised on both sides. good thread. tubby- im not particularly sure why youre gettin all worked up and pissed off at me over my post. i had a seattle ticket and certainly would have liked to see them cover. didn't happen though. socrtstud-...
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    can we put the "fix" issue to rest please ....

    franky: your point is well taken. certainly the outcome would have been different. if nothing else, we're looking at at least a 7 point game, and probably a 4 point game. seattle didn't deserve to win .... but by that same token they didn't deserve to have to play from 11 down either.
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    can we put the "fix" issue to rest please ....

    sun: can't argue with anything you wrote. you're right, some of the game changing plays were preceded by some calls that went pittsburgh's way and that certainly helped the cause. two things to me stand out- 1) the push off in the end zone was bogus. simply not a good call. that kind of...
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    can we put the "fix" issue to rest please ....

    had a few bucks on seattle and a litte more on the under. was happy to make a couple of dollars. the fix talk is nonsense. the officiating wasn't great by any stretch but steelers made enough plays to win and cover. imo, thats really what the game came down to. pittsburgh made the plays...
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    I am starting to hear and see...

    pittsburgh is getting very little credit? they're the #6 seed in the afc and they're favored for god sakes.
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    I am starting to hear and see...

    if carson palmer doesn't tear up his knee, the steelers are likely on the golf course right now.
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    I am starting to hear and see...

    pittsburgh steelers fans are about as delusional and myopic as ohio state and notre dame fans in college ball. the steelers are a decent but hardly great team. this team isn't even as good as last year's team yet people fail to realize that. flip a coin. either team could win by 7 points. but...
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