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Great insight and info. How do you see Indiana coming into this being off? Geez it seems all these teams coming off a bye week are losing? I very disappointed in Tech but very impressed with the Ducks. Good luck and happy new year.
well, obviously i am betting indiana will struggle just like everyone else has. doesn't matter how good the coaching staff is... 3 1/2 weeks is a long pause to overcome.

i still think indiana is the much better team. especially defensively. but the pressure really mounts when you fall behind in big games. it's tough to dig out of these holes, as we've seen.
 

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Tx tech calling timeouts. Unreal

just more idiotic head coaching

So you call all three time outs down 0-16. It's not a 1 score game. So you do that to go down more and to run one more run for 9 yards. What is the point? So dumb.
 
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Tx tech calling timeouts. Unreal

just more idiotic head coaching

So you call all three time outs down 0-16. It's not a 1 score game. So you do that to go down more and to run one more run for 9 yards. What is the point? So dumb.
oh, for the love of god. i wasn't even paying attention, because i was just FFing to the inevitable. i noticed there were some TOs, but didn't even think about who called them. Of course it wasn't oregon. FUCK. FUCKING ASSHOLES. why the actual fuck?
 
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oh, for the love of god. i wasn't even paying attention, because i was just FFing to the inevitable. i noticed there were some TOs, but didn't even think about who called them. Of course it wasn't oregon. FUCK. FUCKING ASSHOLES. why the actual fuck?
Yeah, for sure Oregon was trying to just run the clock out. Texas Tech head coach made them score. They had no other choice. To me only thing that makes since of it all is Texas Tech head coach had Oregon tt over.
 
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Ok, I'm definitely betting on Indiana getting off to a slow start.

Big loss for the Hoosiers, as DL Stephen Daley was injured against Ohio St and is out for this game. He's a run-stuffer and had 5.5 sacks. They may not need the run-stuffing against Alabama's surprisingly feeble ground game, but all hands on deck is always preferable.

I think DeBoer gets a bad rap... nobody is going to fill Nick Saban's shoes. He's a decent coach. However, I'll take Cignetti over just about anyone now, so advantage Indiana.

If this is a close, low-scoring game, Indiana has a big edge in the kicking game. Radicic is 15-of-16 this year. However, his long is only 46 yards. Talty for Alabama always looks scared to me. He's just shaky. He is 15-of-22 with two of those misses under 30 yards. And his long is just 48 yards.

In fact, somebody correct me if I'm wrong (Boomer?), but it seems to me that Alabama's special teams have been shaky overall. At least against Oklahoma.

One note I should have mentioned earlier... every single team I bet in the first quarter... the other team WILL get the ball first. It's a given.

Alabama 1Q (+2.5) 4.6 to win 4
Indiana 1Q TT Under (6.5) 4.6 to win 4
Alabama 1H (+4.5) 3.6 to win 3

I really like Indiana to win this game. But I can't lay 7.5 on a team off the long layoff right now. 0-6 is a strong trend, and it's not random.

My thought is to maybe play Indiana after they fall behind.
Holy shit what an interesting way to hit 2 biggies like that!
 
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I'm afraid to even start watching the Rose Bowl.

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Georgia is still without starting C Drew Bobo, who was injured against Georgia Tech. Malachi Toliver stepped in and was ok against Alabama. He's rated as very good in pass protection, but he's a huge drop-off in run blocking. Plus, there are so many intangibles from the C (primarily line communication). They got by against Alabama, but only put up 297 yards of offense, including 141 on the ground on 41 carries (3.4 yards/carry). In the first matchup with Ole Miss, they ran for 221 on 49 carries (4.5/carry). They really pounded the rock, despite trailing for most of the game. I don't think they'll be able to do that as effectively tonight.

Ole Miss should have plenty of confidence coming into this one, not to mention some revenge on their mind. They led until halfway through the 4th quarter at Georgia (despite Georgia outgaining them by ~ 150 yards and owning the time of possession by 15 minutes). Oh, and they got rid of Lane Kiffin.

Ole Miss 1Q (+2.5) 6 to win 5
Georgia 1Q TT Under (6.5) 4 to win 5.2
Ole Miss 1H (+3.5) 4 units
Ole Miss (+6) 4 units
Ole Miss (ML) 2 to win 4

(just took a peek at the rose bowl... looks like indiana ended the first quarter at the alabama 13. PHEW! i mean, never a doubt! although the book hasn't paid it as a winner yet. i'm getting nervous.)

just saw rock's post... YES!! can't wait to see what the hell actually happened. but a win is a win is a win. lord knows i need a few now.
 

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Georgia is still without starting C Drew Bobo, who was injured against Georgia Tech. Malachi Toliver stepped in and was ok against Alabama. He's rated as very good in pass protection, but he's a huge drop-off in run blocking. Plus, there are so many intangibles from the C (primarily line communication). They got by against Alabama, but only put up 297 yards of offense, including 141 on the ground on 41 carries (3.4 yards/carry). In the first matchup with Ole Miss, they ran for 221 on 49 carries (4.5/carry). They really pounded the rock, despite trailing for most of the game. I don't think they'll be able to do that as effectively tonight.

Ole Miss should have plenty of confidence coming into this one, not to mention some revenge on their mind. They led until halfway through the 4th quarter at Georgia (despite Georgia outgaining them by ~ 150 yards and owning the time of possession by 15 minutes). Oh, and they got rid of Lane Kiffin.

Ole Miss 1Q (+2.5) 6 to win 5
Georgia 1Q TT Under (6.5) 4 to win 5.2
Ole Miss 1H (+3.5) 4 units
Ole Miss (+6) 4 units
Ole Miss (ML) 2 to win 4

(just took a peek at the rose bowl... looks like indiana ended the first quarter at the alabama 13. PHEW! i mean, never a doubt! although the book hasn't paid it as a winner yet. i'm getting nervous.)

just saw rock's post... YES!! can't wait to see what the hell actually happened. but a win is a win is a win. lord knows i need a few now.
You good!
 
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man, i'm glad i knew what happened before i watched the end of the quarter. the clock stoppage with 2 seconds left would have given me an aneurysm.

unfortunately, there's obviously no value in betting indiana now. i was hoping it would take them a little longer to get going.
 

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I'm afraid to even start watching the Rose Bowl.

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Georgia is still without starting C Drew Bobo, who was injured against Georgia Tech. Malachi Toliver stepped in and was ok against Alabama. He's rated as very good in pass protection, but he's a huge drop-off in run blocking. Plus, there are so many intangibles from the C (primarily line communication). They got by against Alabama, but only put up 297 yards of offense, including 141 on the ground on 41 carries (3.4 yards/carry). In the first matchup with Ole Miss, they ran for 221 on 49 carries (4.5/carry). They really pounded the rock, despite trailing for most of the game. I don't think they'll be able to do that as effectively tonight.

Ole Miss should have plenty of confidence coming into this one, not to mention some revenge on their mind. They led until halfway through the 4th quarter at Georgia (despite Georgia outgaining them by ~ 150 yards and owning the time of possession by 15 minutes). Oh, and they got rid of Lane Kiffin.

Ole Miss 1Q (+2.5) 6 to win 5
Georgia 1Q TT Under (6.5) 4 to win 5.2
Ole Miss 1H (+3.5) 4 units
Ole Miss (+6) 4 units
Ole Miss (ML) 2 to win 4

(just took a peek at the rose bowl... looks like indiana ended the first quarter at the alabama 13. PHEW! i mean, never a doubt! although the book hasn't paid it as a winner yet. i'm getting nervous.)

just saw rock's post... YES!! can't wait to see what the hell actually happened. but a win is a win is a win. lord knows i need a few now.
14.2 units , great job!
 
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14.2 units , great job!
thank you, sir! needed all of it to crawl out of the hole i dug after the first game. can't believe i ended up turning a profit on the day after that start.

i was a fumble return away from a clean sweep in the sugar bowl.

oh, speaking of that first game, i almost forgot... how the fuck is it that I knew Oregon was going to run a fake punt, but nobody on the Texas Tech sideline had a fucking clue?
 
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thank you, sir! needed all of it to crawl out of the hole i dug after the first game. can't believe i ended up turning a profit on the day after that start.

i was a fumble return away from a clean sweep in the sugar bowl.

oh, speaking of that first game, i almost forgot... how the fuck is it that I knew Oregon was going to run a fake punt, but nobody on the Texas Tech sideline had a fucking clue?
How you mined gold on the Alabama side was the miraculous part of your day! Alabama was my worse bet of the year. For sides I had Texas tech and Bama, 3 points in 8 quarters, a hopeless start to the year, right?
 

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How you mined gold on the Alabama side was the miraculous part of your day! Alabama was my worse bet of the year. For sides I had Texas tech and Bama, 3 points in 8 quarters, a hopeless start to the year, right?
yup. you probably shouldn't bet any college football tomorrow. or the day after.
 

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Georgia is still without starting C Drew Bobo, who was injured against Georgia Tech. Malachi Toliver stepped in and was ok against Alabama. He's rated as very good in pass protection, but he's a huge drop-off in run blocking. Plus, there are so many intangibles from the C (primarily line communication).
Now, Kirby Smart didn't call out his Center. But it sure sounds like he fucked up on that 4th down play deep in their own territory when they were stopped.

https://www.espn.com/college-footba...smart-laments-4th-conversion-try-georgia-loss

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I'm gonna get this started, but I gotta head out in 20 minutes to meet a friend for lunch, so I won't get too far.

Cincinnati has most of their offense (except their QB), but they have nobody left in the defensive secondary. From actionnetwork.com...

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Normally, missing your defensive secondary against Navy wouldn't be a HUGE deal. You could just throw in some extra linebackers. But Horvath has thrown a lot this year (for a service academy), and he's averaging 10.2 yards/att.

Betting Army & Navy in bowl games is always tricky. For one thing, they already had their Super Bowl. How much do they really care about bowl games? On the other hand, the triple option can be a lot easier to defend when you have 3 weeks to prepare for it. But that all comes down to motivation. If you're not focused during those practices, you're fucked.

Ok, gonna have to stop there. I should be home in plenty of time to wrap this up before the game.

Alrighty, let's pick this back up. Had a delicious Cuban sandwich with some mac & cheese, and now I'm ready for a nap. But no napping on the last day of bowl games!!

So Cincinnati has the whole offense, except the qb. Sorsby certainly put up excellent numbers throwing the ball. And, impressively, he only took 7 sacks on 343 dropbacks. Senior Lichtenberg racked up most of his career yardage in 2023. Jones has the highest passer rating I've ever seen this year... 487.6. OK, he's thrown the ball twice. Whatever. Anyway, Sorsby was also a huge factor with his legs (6.6 yards/att). Both qbs, in their limited playing time, also showed the ability to run the ball. So the big question mark is whether they can throw it. Navy has one of the worst pass defenses in the country, allowing 8.2 yards/att (120th). If either qb has any ability to throw, they might just be ok. It will help that they have one of the most potent ground games in the country, averaging 5.9 yards/carry (3rd). Tawee Walker (hey, I don't name them) racked up 5.9 yards/carry and his backup, Pryor, averaged 6.9 and had at least one run of 10+ yards every game he played except the finale, when he only had 3 carries. Navy is in the middle of the pack defensively, allowing 4.1 yards/carry.

We all know what Navy does offensively. I'm not going to rehash it here. They are throwing more than we're used to. Cincinnati has not been good against the run (4.3 yards/carry) or the pass (7.4 yards/att), and now they're missing a bunch of guys on defense.

Cincinnati has finished the season very poorly two years in a row now. Last year, they started 5-2, then lost their last 5 to miss a bowl game. This year, they started 7-1 and climbed to #21 in the polls. They then lost their last 4 games. It's really hard to say where their heads are at. Cincinnati hasn't won a bowl game since 2019. Maybe they'll be excited after missing a bowl game last year. Maybe all those backups on defense are excited for this opportunity, and they're ready to slow down the option.

I think Cincinnati is going to be ok offensively. And it's hard to imagine they're going to keep Navy out of the end zone all that much. So the over is the logical play, and I see the line has gone up 2 points since last night. We've also seen 90% of the bowl teams struggle offensively early after the layoff. That will impact the option as much as any offense, if not more, because it relies so much on precise timing. They struggled to get started against Oklahoma in their bowl game last year, with no drives over 6 plays in the first half. But, again, the HUGE question is Cincinnati's defense.

Don't love it, but I'm gonna take a shot on the Bearcats to keep it close early. And instead of playing the game over (you can see just how well I've done on totals in the bowl games), I'm going to play both teams over their TT at adjusted numbers, so I only need to hit one to make a (small) profit. Also found an interesting 1Q prop that is worth a shot at -120.

Cincinnati 1H (+4.5) 2.3 to win 2
Cincinnati TT Over (26.5) 4 to win 4.4
Navy TT Over (34.5) 4 to win 4.2
1Q Both teams to score 3+ points 2.4 to win 2
 
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