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Armed Forces Bowl
Just wanted to get this one out of the way. Sorry, I'm not wasting time on it. Couple notes, and then right to it.

Both teams are missing their best Jenkins. QB Chase Jenkins for Rice and RB/KR Jaylen Jenkins for the Bobcats.

Chase Jenkins had an efficient year for the Owls, but they don't throw much. Now they'll really have no threat of a passing game.

Good on Rice... going 2-6 in one of the worst conferences in the country and sneaking into a bowl game!

All kidding aside, winning a bowl game is probably still a big deal for Rice. The last time it happened was 2014. The last time they were in a bowl game was 2023. You're never going to guess who they played. Texas State!!!! Crazy, huh? Probably completely meaningless, given the current state of college football. There's probably 7 guys between the two teams that played in that game 2 years ago. Texas St won 45-21.

Anyway, HC Scott Abell is in his first year at Rice. So I'm on the Bobcats.

Texas State (-16.5) 4 units.
 

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just realized i posted this in the wrong thread. whoopsie.

Liberty Bowl
I'm gonna get this started, but I gotta head out in 20 minutes to meet a friend for lunch, so I won't get too far.

Cincinnati has most of their offense (except their QB), but they have nobody left in the defensive secondary. From actionnetwork.com...

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Normally, missing your defensive secondary against Navy wouldn't be a HUGE deal. You could just throw in some extra linebackers. But Horvath has thrown a lot this year (for a service academy), and he's averaging 10.2 yards/att.

Betting Army & Navy in bowl games is always tricky. For one thing, they already had their Super Bowl. How much do they really care about bowl games? On the other hand, the triple option can be a lot easier to defend when you have 3 weeks to prepare for it. But that all comes down to motivation. If you're not focused during those practices, you're fucked.

Ok, gonna have to stop there. I should be home in plenty of time to wrap this up before the game.

Alrighty, let's pick this back up. Had a delicious Cuban sandwich with some mac & cheese, and now I'm ready for a nap. But no napping on the last day of bowl games!!

So Cincinnati has the whole offense, except the qb. Sorsby certainly put up excellent numbers throwing the ball. And, impressively, he only took 7 sacks on 343 dropbacks. Senior Lichtenberg racked up most of his career yardage in 2023. Jones has the highest passer rating I've ever seen this year... 487.6. OK, he's thrown the ball twice. Whatever. Anyway, Sorsby was also a huge factor with his legs (6.6 yards/att). Both qbs, in their limited playing time, also showed the ability to run the ball. So the big question mark is whether they can throw it. Navy has one of the worst pass defenses in the country, allowing 8.2 yards/att (120th). If either qb has any ability to throw, they might just be ok. It will help that they have one of the most potent ground games in the country, averaging 5.9 yards/carry (3rd). Tawee Walker (hey, I don't name them) racked up 5.9 yards/carry and his backup, Pryor, averaged 6.9 and had at least one run of 10+ yards every game he played except the finale, when he only had 3 carries. Navy is in the middle of the pack defensively, allowing 4.1 yards/carry.

We all know what Navy does offensively. I'm not going to rehash it here. They are throwing more than we're used to. Cincinnati has not been good against the run (4.3 yards/carry) or the pass (7.4 yards/att), and now they're missing a bunch of guys on defense.

Cincinnati has finished the season very poorly two years in a row now. Last year, they started 5-2, then lost their last 5 to miss a bowl game. This year, they started 7-1 and climbed to #21 in the polls. They then lost their last 4 games. It's really hard to say where their heads are at. Cincinnati hasn't won a bowl game since 2019. Maybe they'll be excited after missing a bowl game last year. Maybe all those backups on defense are excited for this opportunity, and they're ready to slow down the option.

I think Cincinnati is going to be ok offensively. And it's hard to imagine they're going to keep Navy out of the end zone all that much. So the over is the logical play, and I see the line has gone up 2 points since last night. We've also seen 90% of the bowl teams struggle offensively early after the layoff. That will impact the option as much as any offense, if not more, because it relies so much on precise timing. They struggled to get started against Oklahoma in their bowl game last year, with no drives over 6 plays in the first half. But, again, the HUGE question is Cincinnati's defense.

Don't love it, but I'm gonna take a shot on the Bearcats to keep it close early. And instead of playing the game over (you can see just how well I've done on totals in the bowl games), I'm going to play both teams over their TT at adjusted numbers, so I only need to hit one to make a (small) profit. Also found an interesting 1Q prop that is worth a shot at -120.

Cincinnati 1H (+4.5) 2.3 to win 2
Cincinnati TT Over (26.5) 4 to win 4.4
Navy TT Over (34.5) 4 to win 4.2
1Q Both teams to score 3+ points 2.4 to win 2
 
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Holiday Bowl
I officially don't like AZ HC Brett Brennan.

"Head coach Brett Brennan said there could be opt-outs but said he won't announce them before the game. He said it's a personal decision for the players, and he doesn't want to give SMU any knowledge of who may be sitting."

Dude, it's the fucking Holiday Bowl.

Remember the good ol' days, when you could just bet the Holiday Bowl over the total, and win your bet by halftime? It was automatic.

So we have no idea who is/isn't playing for Arizona. That makes handicapping this rather difficult.

FWIW, Brennan was 0-3 in bowl games at San Jose St. Maybe that's why he's taking this so seriously.

I have no idea what to do with SMU. After the playoffs last year, they're probably not terribly excited for the Holiday Bowl. Their last 5 games included a blow-out win over Louisville, an OT win over Miami, and losses to Wake Forest and Cal.

Alright, with no knowledge of who is playing for Arizona, I'm just going to follow the line movement (selling a point) and take a flyer on some totals.

SMU (-2.5) 2 to win 2.1
1Q Under (10.5) 2.3 to win 2
1H Under (24.5) 4.5 to win 4
Under (52.5) 5.6 to win 5
 

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just realized i posted this in the wrong thread. whoopsie.

Liberty Bowl
I'm gonna get this started, but I gotta head out in 20 minutes to meet a friend for lunch, so I won't get too far.

Cincinnati has most of their offense (except their QB), but they have nobody left in the defensive secondary. From actionnetwork.com...

1767369529572.png



Normally, missing your defensive secondary against Navy wouldn't be a HUGE deal. You could just throw in some extra linebackers. But Horvath has thrown a lot this year (for a service academy), and he's averaging 10.2 yards/att.

Betting Army & Navy in bowl games is always tricky. For one thing, they already had their Super Bowl. How much do they really care about bowl games? On the other hand, the triple option can be a lot easier to defend when you have 3 weeks to prepare for it. But that all comes down to motivation. If you're not focused during those practices, you're fucked.

Ok, gonna have to stop there. I should be home in plenty of time to wrap this up before the game.

Alrighty, let's pick this back up. Had a delicious Cuban sandwich with some mac & cheese, and now I'm ready for a nap. But no napping on the last day of bowl games!!

So Cincinnati has the whole offense, except the qb. Sorsby certainly put up excellent numbers throwing the ball. And, impressively, he only took 7 sacks on 343 dropbacks. Senior Lichtenberg racked up most of his career yardage in 2023. Jones has the highest passer rating I've ever seen this year... 487.6. OK, he's thrown the ball twice. Whatever. Anyway, Sorsby was also a huge factor with his legs (6.6 yards/att). Both qbs, in their limited playing time, also showed the ability to run the ball. So the big question mark is whether they can throw it. Navy has one of the worst pass defenses in the country, allowing 8.2 yards/att (120th). If either qb has any ability to throw, they might just be ok. It will help that they have one of the most potent ground games in the country, averaging 5.9 yards/carry (3rd). Tawee Walker (hey, I don't name them) racked up 5.9 yards/carry and his backup, Pryor, averaged 6.9 and had at least one run of 10+ yards every game he played except the finale, when he only had 3 carries. Navy is in the middle of the pack defensively, allowing 4.1 yards/carry.

We all know what Navy does offensively. I'm not going to rehash it here. They are throwing more than we're used to. Cincinnati has not been good against the run (4.3 yards/carry) or the pass (7.4 yards/att), and now they're missing a bunch of guys on defense.

Cincinnati has finished the season very poorly two years in a row now. Last year, they started 5-2, then lost their last 5 to miss a bowl game. This year, they started 7-1 and climbed to #21 in the polls. They then lost their last 4 games. It's really hard to say where their heads are at. Cincinnati hasn't won a bowl game since 2019. Maybe they'll be excited after missing a bowl game last year. Maybe all those backups on defense are excited for this opportunity, and they're ready to slow down the option.

I think Cincinnati is going to be ok offensively. And it's hard to imagine they're going to keep Navy out of the end zone all that much. So the over is the logical play, and I see the line has gone up 2 points since last night. We've also seen 90% of the bowl teams struggle offensively early after the layoff. That will impact the option as much as any offense, if not more, because it relies so much on precise timing. They struggled to get started against Oklahoma in their bowl game last year, with no drives over 6 plays in the first half. But, again, the HUGE question is Cincinnati's defense.

Don't love it, but I'm gonna take a shot on the Bearcats to keep it close early. And instead of playing the game over (you can see just how well I've done on totals in the bowl games), I'm going to play both teams over their TT at adjusted numbers, so I only need to hit one to make a (small) profit. Also found an interesting 1Q prop that is worth a shot at -120.

Cincinnati 1H (+4.5) 2.3 to win 2
Cincinnati TT Over (26.5) 4 to win 4.4
Navy TT Over (34.5) 4 to win 4.2
1Q Both teams to score 3+ points 2.4 to win 2
Just asking, did you know there was pouring 🌧 when putting in these overs?
 

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Mayo Bowl
If I was a coach, I'd opt out of this game. Or just threaten to pull the scholarship of anyone who dumped mayo on me.

Near as I can tell, Wake is missing one of their top defensive linemen (Mateen Ibirogba). their top WR (Barnes), and their RB1 (Claiborne). DL Nuer Gatkuoth, who is 2nd on the team with 6 sacks, is questionable.

Mississippi St isn't missing much, with one hilarious exception. QB Blake Shapen, who has NFL ambitions, was benched for the Egg Bowl in favor of true Freshman Kamario Taylor. It sounds like he's out for the bowl game, but I can't confirm.

Wake QB Ashford is fairly mediocre, completing 59% of his passes, averaging 7.5 yards/att, with 9 TDs and 7 INTs. He is a threat with his legs, averaging 5.6 yards/carry. With Claiborne gone, Wake doesn't have much at RB. RB2 Clark averaged just 4.0/carry on 58 carries. Clements is the only other RB with more than 5 carries, and he only averaged 2.7 yards on 20 carries. If they have a talented backup, they've been hiding him. They really could have used Claiborne, as Mississippi St gives up 4.9 yards/carry (117th in the country). While Barnes is their top WR, leading the team in both catches and yards, Carlos Hernandez had very similar numbers, so it doesn't appear to be a huge loss. MIssissippi St puts very little pressure on the QB. They are 101st in the country with just 20 sacks on the season, and no player has 3 sacks.

As I mentioned, Kamario Taylor is the QB for the Bulldogs. In the Egg Bowl (his only start) he completed 15 of 31 for 178 yards (5.7 yards/att) with 0 TDs and 1 INT. Oh, but don't think he didn't contribute. He ran for 173 yards on 20 carries, with 2 TDs. Wake Forest is excellent against the pass, giving up 5.6 yards/att, which is 7th in the country. Surprisingly, they've done it with only 4 INTs all year. At RB for Mississippi St is... say it with me... Fluff Bothwell! Ol' Fluffernutter, as I'm sure his friends call him, had a decent year, averaging 5.0 yards/carry. Wake is also very solid against the run, allowing 3.5 yards/carry (22nd in the country).

Last bowl game of the season. May as well try riding the trend of low-scoring starts one more time. And I was on the verge of taking Wake and the better defense, until I realized... for the last time this season... Wake Forest head coach Jake Dickert (aka The Dickman) is in his first year at Wake. Guess I'll be on the Bulldogs.

1H Under 25.5 4 units
Mississippi St (-2.5) 4.5 to win 4 (wow, i really moved the line! right after i bet it at -112, it went to -124. yup, ol' smitty, movin' lines!)

It's been another fun-ish bowl season. Just 4 games left after today, including the FCS Championship on Monday.
 

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Mayo Bowl
If I was a coach, I'd opt out of this game. Or just threaten to pull the scholarship of anyone who dumped mayo on me.

Near as I can tell, Wake is missing one of their top defensive linemen (Mateen Ibirogba). their top WR (Barnes), and their RB1 (Claiborne). DL Nuer Gatkuoth, who is 2nd on the team with 6 sacks, is questionable.

Mississippi St isn't missing much, with one hilarious exception. QB Blake Shapen, who has NFL ambitions, was benched for the Egg Bowl in favor of true Freshman Kamario Taylor. It sounds like he's out for the bowl game, but I can't confirm.

Wake QB Ashford is fairly mediocre, completing 59% of his passes, averaging 7.5 yards/att, with 9 TDs and 7 INTs. He is a threat with his legs, averaging 5.6 yards/carry. With Claiborne gone, Wake doesn't have much at RB. RB2 Clark averaged just 4.0/carry on 58 carries. Clements is the only other RB with more than 5 carries, and he only averaged 2.7 yards on 20 carries. If they have a talented backup, they've been hiding him. They really could have used Claiborne, as Mississippi St gives up 4.9 yards/carry (117th in the country). While Barnes is their top WR, leading the team in both catches and yards, Carlos Hernandez had very similar numbers, so it doesn't appear to be a huge loss. MIssissippi St puts very little pressure on the QB. They are 101st in the country with just 20 sacks on the season, and no player has 3 sacks.

As I mentioned, Kamario Taylor is the QB for the Bulldogs. In the Egg Bowl (his only start) he completed 15 of 31 for 178 yards (5.7 yards/att) with 0 TDs and 1 INT. Oh, but don't think he didn't contribute. He ran for 173 yards on 20 carries, with 2 TDs. Wake Forest is excellent against the pass, giving up 5.6 yards/att, which is 7th in the country. Surprisingly, they've done it with only 4 INTs all year. At RB for Mississippi St is... say it with me... Fluff Bothwell! Ol' Fluffernutter, as I'm sure his friends call him, had a decent year, averaging 5.0 yards/carry. Wake is also very solid against the run, allowing 3.5 yards/carry (22nd in the country).

Last bowl game of the season. May as well try riding the trend of low-scoring starts one more time. And I was on the verge of taking Wake and the better defense, until I realized... for the last time this season... Wake Forest head coach Jake Dickert (aka The Dickman) is in his first year at Wake. Guess I'll be on the Bulldogs.

1H Under 25.5 4 units
Mississippi St (-2.5) 4.5 to win 4 (wow, i really moved the line! right after i bet it at -112, it went to -124. yup, ol' smitty, movin' lines!)

It's been another fun-ish bowl season. Just 4 games left after today, including the FCS Championship on Monday.
Under hits!!! Never in doubt lol
 
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As I said , Magician Smitty pulls rabbits out of his hats, both 1h unders hit! 🎩 🐇 🐇
had 'em both all the way. wasn't worried one bit. nope.

quarterback play in the WF/Miss St game is... just wow. watching them go back and forth at the end of the half, trying to prove who is worse... just wow.
 
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