10 Democrats and Counting for 2008

[Chadman]

I keep forgetting about Wesley Clark when I think about 2008. He could be an interesting player if he gets in from the start. And Al Gore is not on this list. I'm not sure if Clark would consider a VP position or not, but Clinton/Clark could be a pretty strong combo, I would think.

10 Democrats and Counting for 2008
From U.S. News

Our friends at the Democratic Party have been drawing up a list of who's running for president in 2008, and they tell us that it's already reached 10: Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York, Sen. Joe Biden of Delaware, Sen. Evan Bayh of Indiana, Sen. John Kerry of Massachusetts, Sen. Russ Feingold of Wisconsin, ex-North Carolina Sen. John Edwards, Iowa Gov. Tom Vilsack, New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, former Virginia Gov. Mark Warner, and Wesley Clark, a former NATO commander. Nearly all, we're told, are hiring key staff and raising money. And nine of the 10 share a big hurdle: "They're all waiting,"says our source, "for Hillary to decide."

 

[smurphy]

I think Clark could have pushed Kerry over in 2004 if he was willing to VP. Definitely a moderate, and can garner some military support. I liked him, but his message barely got out there. He was very green in politics, and it showed.

 

[kosar]

I guess Kerry didn't mind the abuse and he'll take another stab at it. I wonder if they'll dust off those swiftboat vets again and run some ads. I wonder if Kerry will announce that he's 'reporting to duty' again. I wonder if there's a chance in hell that he'll win the nomination again. I really don't think so.

 

[Chadman]

I've heard a lot of mention of Warner on some of the lefty talk shows...I really know little about him. And Feingold seems to be seeking the limelight in many of these hot button issues nationally right now. He seems to be a pretty dead-on sound bite many times. I, for one, would not be in favor of Kerry getting the nod, or making a serious run deep into the preseason. There are just so many distractions and a negative aura about him, whether you support him or not. I would prefer a fresh candidate (not sure I consider Hillary fresh in some respects...lol) that does not come with a built in swift boat campaign in place against them.

The Senators have a record to attack and use the same old rhetoric against. That is why Governor candidates seem to do pretty well - no real record to bash. Same goes for Clark. Should be an interesting race, on both sides.

 

[smurphy]

The Senators have a record to attack and use the same old rhetoric against. That is why Governor candidates seem to do pretty well - no real record to bash. Same goes for Clark. Should be an interesting race, on both sides.

So true, and the Bush family are masters at destroying decent people with the same garbage - even "their own" like McCain and Dole - who happen to be Republicans that I would have voted for ahead of the Democrat candidates in those years.

 

[kneifl]

Warner would be a good choice to represent. He was a good governor for the State of Virginia and a lot of people liked him. Also, did some pretty good things for the State.

kneifl

 

[AR182]

my opinion on chadman's first post.....

i have been saying for sometime that i think bayh would be a very credible candidate.....but the problem that i see with him is that he is not dynamic enough....

kerry,clark, gore,feingold & edwards would all be a terrible choices for them dems....

i used to like biden but lost a lot of credibilty in my view when he started calling the pres. a liar & calling other people in the bush administration names....in other words he has acted sometimes like a kid in high school....

nobody with as high a negative rating as hilliary has ever won the presidential election....

warner & richardson should be vp candidates before running for president........

 

[smurphy]

i used to like biden but lost a lot of credibilty in my view when he started calling the pres. a liar & calling other people in the bush administration names...

What if he truly feels Bush is a liar and Cheney is a jackass? Doesn't it show some backbone to go ahead and speak one's mind? Isn't that what the dems keep getting knocked around over - not showing heart and toughness?

A case can certainly made for the view that Bush is a liar. I would hope that Bush and his supporters are not that sensitive. ....as sensitive as a bleeding heart liberal even.

 

[AR182]

What if he truly feels Bush is a liar and Cheney is a jackass? Doesn't it show some backbone to go ahead and speak one's mind? Isn't that what the dems keep getting knocked around over - not showing heart and toughness?

no.....it shows poor judgement in my opinion because a politician is supposed to show respect & restraint & should use different language....

imagine a president of the us calling the leader of another country a liar or a jackass....what would the public think of that ?

btw..murphy i may be in your area sometime in june....we're doing the ride from s.f. to l.a. on the coast highway....

 

[smurphy]

Point taken. ...And please let me know when you are coming!

 

[AR182]

do you have the same e-mail address ?

i sent you an e-mail (never heard from you) during the bowl season to see if you were going to be in vegas...since i'm pretty sure that you mentioned somewhere that you travel between calif. & vegas occasionally...i wanted to see if you were going to be in vegas when i was there....

 

[Chadman]

because a politician is supposed to show respect & restraint & should use different language....

imagine a president of the us calling the leader of another country a liar or a jackass....what would the public think of that ?

You mean like Cheney on the floor of the Senate?

I certainly don't think Bush has shown much restraint on many occasions, especially when dealing with the press. When he gets flustered, he certainly loses most of the little tact he has.

 

[smurphy]

do you have the same e-mail address ?

i sent you an e-mail (never heard from you) during the bowl season to see if you were going to be in vegas...since i'm pretty sure that you mentioned somewhere that you travel between calif. & vegas occasionally...i wanted to see if you were going to be in vegas when i was there....

My email was jacked up over the holidays. All good now and it's the same. I'll be in your area sometime in the next months as well. I'll keep you posted....

I still can't get over when Cheney told Paul Wellstone that he will greatly regret going up against them and then he and his family were killed the next month - right before a guaranteed re-election in Minnesota. I aint sayin he's a gold digga .....but that was a pretty ugly and suspicious turn of events.

 

[djv]

Don't leave Gore out. Remember he lost by one vote. Thats hell of lot better then the weak choice like Kerry was.

 

[SixFive]

I haven't voted Democrat since I was able to vote for the first time in '92. However, if there is a viable candidate that I like from the Democratic party, I will vote for him. I'm not any political expert, so I'm not sure about those posted. Are any of them from the South? Are any considered conservative/moderate democrats? If the Democrats run another liberal, they are truly out of touch and stupid. Nobody Hillaryish or Kerryish will win.

 

[steve2881]

i hope the dems put up hillary, gore, or kerry. it would be another 4 years for the rebs.

the only dem that i can think of that i beleive would be a good president is leiberman. although i don't think he is leftist enough to get the support he needs.

 

[Chadman]

You guys better be careful what you wish for. Hillary would be a formidable candidate, well-backed financially, and a tough campaigner. Well-versed in the issues, well spoken. Probably few from either side would be tougher in a debate.

 

[dawgball]

This is what I don't get. Why in the hell would the Dem party even consider putting Kerry or Edwards up again? This just seems like an incredible waste of time and money.

Kerry has ZERO shot of ever winning a Presidential election from this point forward. He had a good shot last time and absolutely blew it. Does anyone have confidence in his ability to stand strong in front of foreign relations? (Not intended to mean that I think Bush is the great negotiator)

 

[Chadman]

I agree, dawgball, about Kerry. Just too much negativity in place - whether deserved or not is not the issue. Not sure about Edwards...I think he made a decent showing as a VP candidate and his Two America's theme plays well towards liberals. His appearance and speaking skills are top notch. Could be an underdog, but I think there are stronger personalities for the top office.

 

[dawgball]

I just think it's pretty telling that he is the EX-senator of NC.