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BobbyBlueChip

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I wasn?t actually talking about the Company?s that set up off-shore entities to avoid taxes, I was referring to Companies that actually have productive plants and operations overseas. Whether or not paying on an increasing tax rate based on income or not is another topic.

My point is that this tax break is being sold as being good for everyone due to the fact that it will create more jobs and it won?t. I am assuming that you don?t think that it?s wrong for a Company to move operations overseas to make more money as that is their right, but then you find that a person is lazy for joining a union and making as much as he can for the least amount of work.

Companies need to pay taxes on their income just like individuals and when the Companies don?t pay, avoid tax or fudge their income, the money needed for governmental programs need to come from somewhere and it usually hits in the form of sales taxes as those are the easiest to increase/decrease in the short-term. And the brunt of sales tax is picked up by the lower- and middle-class.

I wish I had a solution but I don?t. I think that the answer would be economic isolation in the form of tariffs and subsidies which would hurt the economy in the long-run but would keep people working and support labor-intensive traditional industries from being hammered by foreign companies.

I hate labels, but J, the conservative?s that seem to hold the free market as the be-all, end-all are also the same people who are so religious. Does anyone think that Jesus was a capitalist? The Marxist use his teachings all the time.

A government?s primary job should be to keep someone and his money close and just because a policy is good for business doesn?t mean that it?s good for the country. And if you want to lower taxes at the same time that you?re asking for more money for a war, tell me why and don?t say that it?s for job creation when it won?t work.
 

AR182

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stevie wrote:"My good doctor I do not think the American Working man is a lazy bum."


stevie,

i guess you haven't observed civil service workers in action.
 

djv

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Doc the inspectors would report to our military just like the others do. I dont know who hands out this other BS. Blix is out.
Chit over 2000 of these inspectors soon to be there all highly train were told. Some more BS. We now trained over 2000 inspectors before we even new we would need them. BS. I dont get taken in to easy like some you younger ones that will see more light as you get older. As for the American worker and there jobs. Fine if you dont want them here because were all such laze asses. Well of course not the rebuplicans there real ass busters, I forgot. Then when all is gone we can go back to cowboys and indians. Doc you got to make more sence then just calling anything not right of center, some how wrong. Did you have a nice school to go to. Do you give a chit about 6% unemployment.
 

StevieD

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DJV good point I wonder how many highly trained WMD Inspectors there are running around. Is that a course you take in college or something? What would they do if there was no war? Sounds like a pretty dumb occupation choice to me.
 

dr. freeze

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hey I am just calling it like it is.....you ask ANY contractor in the south who are FAR superior workers....the Mexican or the American.....

DJV sometimes i think you have a paranoid personality disorder....everthing that Bush does you suspect. EVERYthing. I don't get it. A healthy suspicion is warranted....but you go way overboard.

Of course I care about employment. I already outlined what i think is the best way to work on that. Unfortunately, we are way overtaxed and that paralyzes the economy. Money can't flow. When money flows, productivity ensues. Right now it is stagnant because all the money is given away or given to ridiculous governemtn and administrative jobs which do nothing but create hastle for everyone else. Productivity has waned.

The American worker USED to be in YOUR generation the guy who built this country. I don't think you realize what it has degenerated to. It is a sorry sorry state.
 

dr. freeze

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And as far as looking for WMD....you oughtta check what the military trains their men and women in ever since WWII we have had our guys ready to deal with chemical and biological warfare.....it is now part of basic training for most folks....not that tough to search for....not a whole lot more complex then running a magnetic coin finder -- whatever those things are called -- name slips me....
 
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