#14 N.C. State @ #1 Duke

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2-0 last post....dogs have been hitting pretty good in ACC hoops so far this year...hoping another one hits tomorrow night;)

State will have to try to contain the 2 big time threats in JJ and Sheldon....if they limit them each to under 20, they have a chance in this game...State's 3 pt. shooting has been incredible this year and they will have to continue it to have a chance at the upset....With the expansion of the conference this will be the first time the Pack sophmores will be playing at Cameron...There could be some nervousness, but it should not be an issue with the overall team play the Pack plays...Side is not out, but the total is....figured this one at 149, so to get it at 142.5 was a no-brainer for me :s4: ....will probably take the points, but will wait to see where the linemakers set it at....

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State/Duke Over 142.5

glta

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+11.5 :scared

maybe I'm looking thru red-colored glasses, but think that is way too many points to give to a team that is shooting the ball well right now...guess we will find out tomorrow night

Homer play :142lmao:

Pack +11.5 (2 Unit Play) :rolleyes:
 

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Gary Hahn's Scouting Report: Duke
Wolfpack, Blue Devils clash Wednesday night.


Jan. 18, 2006

No. 14 NC STATE (14-2, 3-1) at No. 1 DUKE (16-0, 4-0)

DATE: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 @ Cameron Indoor Stadium, Durham, NC (9,314)

TIME: Tip-off: 7:00 p.m. EST


TELEVISION: ESPN

OPPONENT-- The Blue Devils are one of three remaining unbeaten teams in NCAA Division-1 (Florida & Pittsburgh) and are coming off a hard fought 87-77 win at Clemson last Saturday.

Duke let an 11-point lead slip to 76-71after Akin Akingbala's short jumper with 1:56 left, but J.J. Redick advanced the ball up the court and found a wide-open Sean Dockery for a layup and the Tigers could not get any closer.

Clemson (13-4, 2-2) came out fired up and Duke had a tough time for most of the afternoon guarding the Tigers dribble penetration. In fact, the Blue Devils even played some match-up zone defense to counter that strategy. Redick single-handedly kept Duke in the game in the first half with 17 points and the Devils led at the break 44-38.

Free throws were a major factor in the game as Duke sank 29-of-36 attempts while the Tigers could only manage 6-of-21 shooting. Clemson stayed in the game by holding a 19-9 edge in offensive rebounding and outscoring Duke 23-7 in second-chance points. However, Redick and Shelden Williams were too much for the Tigers to overcome.

Redick finished with 34 points, including 12 at the free throw line. Williams followed up a triple-double against Maryland (19 points, 11 rebounds & 10 blocks) with his eighth double-double of the season, recording 17 points and 11 boards against the Tigers. Vernon Hamilton led Clemson with a career-high 31 points.

So far, Duke has been able to work through the absence of DeMarcus Nelson. The 6-3 sophomore guard bruised a bone in his ankle against Maryland on January 11th--the same ankle he broke in November. Coach Mike Krzyzewski told reporters on Monday that Nelson status was doubtful for Wednesday's game with the Wolfpack.

Duke continues to win with great pressure defense and because Redick and Williams continue to play at an amazing high level of consistency on both ends of the floor while their teammates complement them.

Redick tops the ACC in scoring (26.4) and has averaged 29.9 points over his last 8 games. The 6-4 senior who was last season's Rupp National Player of the Year, averages nearly 36 minutes a game and is probably the best three-point shooter in the country. Redick leads the ACC in 3-point field goals per game (3.69) and his .424 shooting mark from beyond the arc is third-best in the league. He's also a career 92 percent free throw shooter.

In 7 career games against NC State, Redick has averaged 22.1 points (155), including a 35-point explosion against the Wolfpack in the 2005 ACC Tournament.

Williams is also an incredible talent. He's one of the nation's top post defenders and is the No. 1 shot blocker in the ACC (3.7). The 6-9 senior also leads the league in rebounding and is second in scoring while shooting 61 percent from the field--third best in the ACC. Williams has recorded 46 career double-doubles.

Dockery, another top defender, leads Duke and is second in the ACC in steals (2.44). The 6-2 senior can also hit big shots. His 40-footer at the buzzer was the game-winner against Virginia Tech in December.

Other contributors are freshmen, Greg Paulus and Josh McRoberts. Paulus leads the ACC in assists per game (5.1) while McRoberts is shooting 61 percent from the field and adds size up front to complement Williams. Off the bench, Lee Melchionni is a smart veteran who fills a variety of roles and can hit clutch shots.

Duke's trademark defensive pressure on the perimeter and Williams shot blocking inside, force most opponents out of their set offensive patterns. The Blue Devils have allowed opponents an average of only 61.9 points a game (No.3 ACC) and .262 shooting from the 3-point line (No.1 ACC).Valparaiso is the only Duke opponent this season to have more assists in a game than turnovers.

The Blue Devils and Wolfpack are not strong rebounding teams. Duke's -1.0 rebound margin is slightly below State's +0.8 while both are at the bottom of the ACC in offensive rebounding.

Offensively, Duke averages 82.2 points a game and leads the ACC in field goal percentage (.517) with many of those shots coming from long-range. The Blue Devils average 19 three-point field goal attempts a game and shoot 40 percent from beyond the arc.

The Devils also make opponents pay for fouling. They lead the ACC in free throw shooting (.768) and get to the line an average of 23 times a game. Duke has made more free throws than its opponents have attempted this season (288-to-222).

Last season, Duke won twice over the Wolfpack 86-74 in Raleigh and 76-69 in the ACC Tournament semi-finals. The last time the Pack beat a No. 1 ranked team, Duke was the victim 78-74 at the RBC Center on February, 15, 2004. Due to ACC expansion, this game will be the only meeting between Duke and State during the 2005-06 regular season.

PROBABLE DUKE STARTERS

No. Name Pos. Ht. Class PPG RPG APG 15 Sean Dockery G 6'2 Sr. 8.6 4.1 3.1 04 J.J. Redick G 6'4 Sr. 26.4 1.7 2.3 03 Greg Paulus G 6'1 Fr. 6.4 2.9 5.1 23 Sheldon Williams C 6'9 Sr. 18.2 9.4 3.7* 02 Josh McRoberts F 6'10 Fr. 7.5 4.6 1.3*

TOP RESERVES:

13 Lee Melchionni F 6'6 Jr. 7.7 3.6 1.2 21 DeMarcus Nelson G 6'3 So. 5.7 2.5 1.3 05 Martynas Pocius G 6'4 Fr. 2.5 0.5 -- 34 Jamal Boykin F 6'7 Fr. 1.8 1.3 -- * Blocked shots per game

A WIN--Would be the Wolfpack's third in-a-row overall and 10th in the last 11 games. The Pack would gets its first win over a No. 1 ranked team since February 15, 2004 when it beat Duke at home 78-74 and its first road win over a top-ranked team since February 21, 1998, when it won at UNC 86-72. State would improve to 3-2 versus ranked teams this season. The Wolfpack would break a 9-game losing streak at Cameron Indoor Stadium (the teams did not play in Durham last season), winning for the first time since 1995. State would improve to 15-2 overall and 4-1 in the ACC, moving into a first-place tie with the Blue Devils in the league. Duke would lose for the first time this season, dropping to 16-1 overall and 4-1 in the ACC, and drop its first home game since Jan. 26, 2005, when Maryland upset the Devils.

A LOSS--Would break a two-game winning streak for the Pack, dropping State to 14-3 overall and 3-2 in the ACC. The Pack would lose for the 10th straight time to Duke in Durham and for the third time in-a-row in the series with the Blue Devils. State would drop to 2-3 against ranked team this season. Duke would remain unbeaten at 17-0, equaling it start in 1991-92 when it won the '92 NCAA championship, and improve to 5-0 in the ACC and remain in sole possession of first-place.

THE POINTS STOP HERE --The Wolfpack is holding opponents to 60.9 points a game, the second-best number in the ACC. State leads the league in field goal percentage defense (.381) and is 3rd in three-point percentage defense (.302).

LONG RANGE RIFLEMEN --State is No. 2 in the ACC in three-point percentage (.395) and has made more three-points shots (151) than anyone in the league this season. About 45 percent of the Pack's field goal attempts come from behind the arc (382-of-844).

BETHEL'S BOMBS ON TARGET --Senior guard Tony Bethel leads the team in 3-point field goal percentage (.492) and has made 14 of his last 21shots from the three-point arc (67%). In his last 4 games, he has averaged 14.8 points (59) while shooting 22-of-35 from the field (63%). Bethel is NC State's best on-the-ball defender and is also a highly skilled playmaker and impressive rebounder.

MR. VALUABLE -- Engin Atsur, a native of Istanbul, Turkey, is the ACC's top 3-point percentage shooter (.476) and is 5th in the league in assists while ranking No.2 in assist-to-turnover ratio (2.32). The 6-4 junior leads the Pack in assists (72), steals (25) and minutes (31.9). Atsur has only 14 turnovers in his last 10 games. He's scored in double-figures in each of his last 9 games, averaging 14.2 (128) points and 4.9 assists (44) while shooting 55 percent from the three-point line (28-51) during that span.

DON'T TURN IT OVER --The Wolfpack turned over the ball only 9 times in its win over Georgia Tech on Saturday and for the season is averaging only 13 turnovers a game. State had a season-low 5 turnovers against New Hampshire on Dec. 30th.

CONSISTENT CAM -- Cameron Bennerman has elevated his game. In his last 10 appearances, the senior has averaged 14.1 points a game (141) while shooting 59 percent during that span (60-102). The senior led the Pack with 16 points in the win over Georgia Tech.

POSITIVE BOUNCE OFF THE BOARDS-- The Pack's rebounding margin of +0.8 may be 10th in the ACC, but it's an improvement from earlier this season. State is 4th in the ACC in defensive rebounds (25.1) per game.

SUPER SIMMONS --The most improved player on the NC State team is Cedric Simmons. The sophomore center played in 31 games last season and averaged 3.5 points and 1.8 rebounds. This season, Simmons leads the team in scoring (12.2), rebounding (6.9) and blocked shots (2.98) while shooting a team high .644 from the field. He is No.2 in the ACC in blocked shots.

SHARE AND WIN --NC State is averaging an assist on an impressive 67 percent of its field goals (277-of-412) this season.

BRACKMAN'S BUSTING OUT --Sophomore, Andrew Brackman, has come off the bench to score in double-figures in 5 of his last 6 games. During that span, Brackman has averaged 12.7 points (76) while shooting 56 percent from the field (25-45).

INJURIES --Freshman forward Brandon Costner could miss his 11th straight game with a leg injury. Duke's DeMarcus Nelson could miss his 2nd straight game with an ankle bruise.
 

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Good post...hate Duke, but 11 or 11 1/2 is not that much to give at Cameron. Only way they hold jj under 20 is to break his hand.
Good luck!
 

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amico nos said:
Good post...hate Duke, but 11 or 11 1/2 is not that much to give at Cameron. Only way they hold jj under 20 is to break his hand.
Good luck!
agree that Duke can easily win by 20 if the Pack do not come to play....just hoping they do and keep this close....ML at +600 :scared

JJ will get his 25 to 30....that's fine as long as the big boys can contain sheldon down low and not get into foul trouble...that has been Simmons's problem lately (early foul trouble)....if he can stay in the game, the offense flows around him

Maybe JJ can sprain his hand(s) for tonights game :s4:
 

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well the total is already up to 144.5

I think a better play would be the over 68.5 for the 1st half....Duke usually pushes the tempo in the 1st half, then slows it down a bit in 2nd..thought?
 

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Rcxslam said:
well the total is already up to 144.5

I think a better play would be the over 68.5 for the 1st half....Duke usually pushes the tempo in the 1st half, then slows it down a bit in 2nd..thought?

there could be a bit of nervousness or "getting into the flow" to start the game out...not saying the FH over doesn't hit, but might want to see what the HT o/u is and play the over there....more 3's, quicker tempo, desperation fouls, ot, etc can be a factor in the second half depending on how the game is progressing...not much of a FH player...like to see how the teams are playing to see if a HT play warrants...

gl if you decide on the FH play
 

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ajoytoy said:
there could be a bit of nervousness or "getting into the flow" to start the game out...not saying the FH over doesn't hit, but might want to see what the HT o/u is and play the over there....more 3's, quicker tempo, desperation fouls, ot, etc can be a factor in the second half depending on how the game is progressing...not much of a FH player...like to see how the teams are playing to see if a HT play warrants...

gl if you decide on the FH play

yes thank you and gl on your play...

Duke has been on fire scoring the ball this year and especially in the last few games, my only concern is if NC St will be able to keep up....I'll most likely be making a medium sized wager on the 1h....
 

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Rcxslam said:
my only concern is if NC St will be able to keep up.

Pack has been shooting well this season (especially behind the arc)...the only problem I could envision is that the Crazies get into their heads...also as noted earlier, this will be the first visit to Cameron for the Sophmores, so there could be a little bit of adjustment to start the game off...but Pack has played in front of hostile crowds at Iowa and Bama, so they are "ready"
 

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I am playing NC State as well as the over. If this NC State team stays hot from behind the arc, I dont see how the couldn't cover. They are getting very even point distribution from the players. The two X Factors are limiting Reddick (laugh) and keeping Cedric Simmons out of foul trouble. Cameron is a tough tough place to play, but I have to go with my gut on this one.
 

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Take the Pack ML. Maryland and Wakeforest dump the ball into the post much more than NC State does. Williams can shut the post down very well, but NCState can spread the floor and light it up. I would easily take the +11 but i will gamble tonight and say ML +600.
Duke always seems to hit an unlikely bump in the road.
 

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State welcomes return

Chip Alexander, Staff Writer

N.C. State's Ilian Evtimov says he missed it. Cameron Bennerman says he couldn't care less.
As for Andrew Brackman, he says he's sorry his freshman year went by without experiencing it, leaving it to teammates to fill him in on all the gory, storied details.

For players in the ACC, there's nothing quite like playing Duke in Cameron Indoor Stadium. There's nothing like hearing the roars of the Cameron Crazies -- and at times feeling a bit of the spittle from those roars -- while being tested by the Blue Devils.

Evtimov and Bennerman have done it. Tony Bethel did it as a sophomore at Georgetown before transferring to N.C. State.

"Loved it," Bethel said.

The Pack did it every year until last season, when the new-look ACC caused scheduling reshuffling.

The only State-Duke game in the regular season was played in Raleigh.

Tonight, the 14th-ranked Wolfpack goes back to Cameron for this season's only matchup, facing a Duke team that's ranked No. 1, that's unbeaten at home and everywhere else.

What's it like at Cameron?

"Loud," Bennerman said.

And?

"Loud," he said, smiling.

"Loud and blue."

Bennerman, a senior, said Cameron compares to North Carolina's Smith Center in being the "ultimate homecourt advantage." At the same time, he said he would not get caught up in all the talk about surviving the wrath of the Crazies or the suffocating sensation of Cameron.

"It's the kind of game you want to play in, that people come to the ACC to play in," he said. "But it's just another game on our schedule. It's a game we want to go in there and get a win."

Not since January 1995, has the Wolfpack gone into Cameron and gotten a win -- the season Duke coach Mike Krzyzewski was sitting out, recuperating from back surgery.

Fact is, State has not beaten Duke in Cameron with Krzyzewski on the Blue Devils' bench since 1988.

Two years ago, the Devils blitzed the Wolfpack 76-57 in Cameron, forcing former State star Julius Hodge into seven of the Pack's 20 turnovers.

State trailed 42-25 at halftime and finished 4-for-16 on 3-pointers in the game as Duke discombobulated the Pack's motion offense.

"We have to do a good job of taking care of the ball because they shoot into the passing lanes and they pressure the ball well," junior Engin Atsur said.

Atsur had five turnovers in the 2004 game at Duke but said he didn't come away shaken from his first Cameron game.

"I love it," Atsur said. "The game [tonight] is on national TV, in a packed gym, playing the No. 1 team in the country. So it doesn't get much better than that."

Evtimov said Cameron has an old-gym feel to it, reminding him of basketball arenas in Europe.

"The [rims] are soft," the senior said. "They have the old-school nets and the goals connected to the ceiling.

"It's just a whole different atmosphere there and it's not just the fans up in your grill. Some people may get nervous playing there but I love it."

NCSU coach Herb Sendek, with his 0-8 record in Cameron, won't be using the "love" word.

Besides, Sendek is more concerned with such things as trying to contain the Blue Devils' J.J. Redick or limiting the ballhandling mistakes he said has players shouting, "Get back! Who do you have?"

Krzyzewski called the Pack (14-2, 3-1 ACC) a team hardened by road games at Iowa, UNC and Boston College.

State's "old kids," he said, would not be affected by the Cameron crowd.

"It's a good thinking team that thinks together and works hard," he said. "They can play with anybody."

And Sendek has to like his players' attitude about playing on a court most would dread.

"Playing in a historic venue like Cameron ... is something young kids dream about when they're in the back yard shooting on a garage hoop," he said.

Brackman once had that dream. As a freshman at State last year, he had a shot at Duke in the RBC Center and again during the ACC Tournament as the Blue Devils won both times.

But he didn't get his chance to go to Cameron.

"I don't want to say I missed something, but it just wasn't a full freshman experience," he said. "I'm very excited to go over there and see what it's all about."
 

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good luck to you. like the 11.5 better than the over. clemson scored 77 pts saturday which is the most anyone has scored{ valp scored 77 also} against duke. got to think duke's defense will play better and i predict a 72-65 type game. if nelson sits out i like state even more. who will match up with redick?
 

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lowell said:
good luck to you. like the 11.5 better than the over. clemson scored 77 pts saturday which is the most anyone has scored{ valp scored 77 also} against duke. got to think duke's defense will play better and i predict a 72-65 type game. if nelson sits out i like state even more. who will match up with redick?
good to see you around lowell...im pretty sure I hear Nelson is definitely out....think the quickest guys that can try to guard reddick will be bennerman and grant
 

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That sucks, I was hoping they wouldn't foul Reddick with 28 sec to go and just let the clock run out. of course they do that on the next possession after missing the 3 and losing the cover. :cursin: :cursin:
 

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That sucks, I was hoping they wouldn't foul Reddick with 28 sec to go and just let the clock run out. of course they do that on the next possession after missing the 3 and losing the cover. :cursin: :cursin:
agree, thats a tough one to take to the chin :cursin: ...cant complain cause I took duke against the tigers and got lucky with the win when it could have easily been a loss....state played well till the last 4 minutes, then Duke shut 'em down...sorry for the bad pick...congrats to Duke fans...damn tough team to play..at least I had the total right on :s4:
 
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