16 Illegals sue Arizona Rancher

bryanz

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this is unbelievable,
do illegal aliens have civil rights:shrug:
I say deport them all and the lawyer representing them

everyone in America has civil rights, even you... welcome...where do you think you are ? The thought that civil rights for a fellow human in America is unbelievable, is unbelievable to me...You are probably one of those animal rights guys....anti education... pro life.. for the death pentalty... how close am I ?
 
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And you might ask , how i know this, remember i worked right next to them , day in, day out. And on payday we would compare checks for laughs, and i would see that they got RAPED on the deductions, from the FICA(which if i am not mistaken is part of if not the entire SS) and the Fed , state withholdings, along with all the other fucked up ways the govt could get from your check. they always had more deductions than i did.

I always told them to report they had 25 or more dependents (which probably in some cases was the truth:mj07: ) so that the deductions would be much less, but no they never did, they would report 0, because they were scared that the Govt, would investigate, and they would not be able to work any more.

And where did all that money go I ask. They never filed a return, and never applied for benefits, like unemployment, that was paid also.

Hell i even remember one guy that worked for nearly 6 months on some papers(false mind you) where he was paying child support:142smilie he never did understand it, i told him several times, dude go back up to LA and get some different papers, your paying for some cat's kids. :sadwave:
 

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The anti-Mexan immigrant crowd NEVER acknowledges how much tax money the workers contribute and never see again. All they ever do is dwell on the inflated scare-tactic medical and crime stats. I'm with you Padre.
 

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Just one for a few laughs, boys.
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dude u obviously do not get the economics of it, they pay taxes, and never file a return like most people that do, and get a refund. u see they pay billions into "your" tax system that helps pay "your" health care , so yes when they go in a get taken care of on "your" dime, lets just say they are collecting a little of the return money they will never see, and the ol time big one, when you collect your Social Security(hell we all may not get to do that,thanks to fucking Bush spending it all)just know this they "the illegal" has been paying into that for ages, and will never be eligible to withdraw one single cent. how's them apples.

sure they pay ss and payroll/medicaid taxes but most will say it does not cover medical expenses. In 2006 illegals cost texas hospitals over 1 billion dollars.

hey i have all the respect in the world for someone who leaves their family behind, treks through miles of nothingness only to work a shit job in shit conditions in an attempt to save money to help their family out. I actually wish some Americans had 1/2 of that work ethic.
 

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saint, i do not know how the govt spends the money, but all i know is they do pay state taxes as well, and never file a return. so the money is at least used for something. I know the stats the Govt. throws at ya, 1 billion in health care, but i would go so far as to say, that every single "illegal" that has worked in this country, could visit the doctor 2 times, and still would not be even close to what they have paid into "taxes".

You see I am with Smurphy as well, the Govt, does like to throw out numbers like what you have quoted.

But I have yet to see the numbers on the working dead, thats right, most of these "illegals" use dead people's SS #s, you do not see the Govt breaking down doors and returning money to the dead, do you. And last time I checked teh Govt, did not post a figure that stated,

Last year's unclaimed, or unfiled tax returns, was at an estimated 4.5 billion dollars. No they hush up about that and simply spend it.

So it is easy to get washed up in what you hear, I think they are just trying to find ways of spreading the guilt about how they have fucked up the health care system themselves, and over spent. and given the executives over inflated bonuses, just as every fucking institution has these past few years. It is just as easy to say that it is the "illegal" bogging down the system. you see it gets you angry at the mexican instead of who is really at fault.
 
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Just waiting for some games to go to half,i am on a roll right now, fired up.

That brings up yet another point, i would bet that these banks and lending institutions would love to have had an "illegal" out as well as the health care systems. Stating all the losses are due to bad loans to "illegals", but then the ever so wise American would throw back at them, hell it is your own damn fault for lending to "illegals" , but that would back fire , so they had no other choice , but to take it on the chin, and as any proud American ,hold out their hand for a check. Obama, Obama, plz help.


But believe it or not, some "illegals" did get loans, and bought houses, how, i do not know, but they did, but what i find interesting is that , they are fighting tooth and nail to keep them. they are working ever so hard now to stay in the house. some doubling up families in homes, some not sending as much to Mexico anymore, just anyway possible to keep their home. How many americans are doing that? Nope they just hang out in the "i am with stupid" line and wait for assistance.
 

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lol Saint, no I have been in many of "debates" before on here,and it just seems that he and I share the same values, at times.

Nothing personal earlier,saint, i just think that photo, set me off, thats all, i mean all the other stuff they allow on here and dont allow, this one has way out of bounds for me. i mean holocaust type out of bounds, if someone posted something of that nature, hell everyone would be on board to have that outcasted. but this one flys under the radar of most. I am done with this, no hard feelings man, see ya in the hoops, forums. thx
 

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lol Saint, no I have been in many of "debates" before on here,and it just seems that he and I share the same values, at times.

Nothing personal earlier,saint, i just think that photo, set me off, thats all, i mean all the other stuff they allow on here and dont allow, this one has way out of bounds for me. i mean holocaust type out of bounds, if someone posted something of that nature, hell everyone would be on board to have that outcasted. but this one flys under the radar of most. I am done with this, no hard feelings man, see ya in the hoops, forums. thx

oh no offense taken bud, this is what makes discussion forums discussions! I enjoy reading other people's perspectives, whether I agree or not we all come from different walks of life. It's the people that get all butt-hurt over it that get annoying.
 

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So it is easy to get washed up in what you hear, I think they are just trying to find ways of spreading the guilt about how they have fucked up the health care system themselves, and over spent. and given the executives over inflated bonuses, just as every fucking institution has these past few years. It is just as easy to say that it is the "illegal" bogging down the system. you see it gets you angry at the mexican instead of who is really at fault.

If criminal aliens were a net benefit, California would be flush with money rather than bankrupt.

Get off your high horse.
 

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Can see both sides of this one. To think illegals should be treated violently just for trying to improve their lot in life is absurd. Equally however, to say that illegals are an asset and do not put a drain on public programs is equally foolish. No easy answers here!
 

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If criminal aliens were a net benefit, California would be flush with money rather than bankrupt. Get off your high horse.
This is what pisses me off about the Congress wanting to bail out the States with FREE money, they have ignored our immigration laws and have bragged about it, I have no problem if the Legal Residents of California want to Pay Higher Taxes for the RIGHT to be LIBERAL, but don't ask the Federal Government, AKA responsible States, to foot the Bill.* TIA. JMHO.:nono:
 
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