2006 Iron Bowl

RollTide72

June 8, 2013
Forum Member
Apr 4, 2002
5,401
39
0
53
Greenfield, IN
www.facebook.com
From ESPN.com:

The program had just been hammered with NCAA sanctions, and Shula came aboard in May after former head coach Mike Price had spent all of spring practice installing a brand-new offense and was then fired in the wake of the strip club episode.

It was going to take time. The question now, as Shula wraps up his fourth season at his alma mater, is: How much is enough time?

There are some telling numbers that clearly don't help Shula's case.

He's just 2-15 against Arkansas, Auburn, Florida, LSU and Tennessee; 3-15 against SEC teams with winning records and 4-13 against nationally ranked teams.

Against all teams with winning records, he's 8-19. Against all teams with losing records, he's 18-2.

Since Shula returned to the Capstone, Alabama has yet to come back and win a game in which it was trailing heading into the fourth quarter.

And in games decided by seven points or less, Shula's record is 5-12.
 

RollTide72

June 8, 2013
Forum Member
Apr 4, 2002
5,401
39
0
53
Greenfield, IN
www.facebook.com
From ESPN.com Insider/Scout's Edge:

From ESPN.com Insider/Scout's Edge:

Auburn Offense vs. Alabama Defense

QB Brandon Cox threw four interceptions last week, including one that was returned for a touchdown. Combine that with the fact that this is running back Kenny Irons' last Iron Bowl, and it's safe to expect offensive coordinator Al Borges to run early and often. Irons has been hindered by foot injuries, but he still runs hard between the tackles and has the burst to get to the outside. In addition, backup Brad Lester has big-play capability and provides good depth, so Borges can stay committed to the ground game without wearing Irons out. Alabama defensive coordinator Joe Kines will counter with eight-man fronts and run blitzes. However, there are reasons to believe this approach won't work. First and most important, eight-man fronts and run blitzes only work when executed properly, and the Tide's front seven didn't play particularly well last week. The front four took too long to shed their blocks and linebackers got caught out of their gaps far too often. That has to change this week because Irons and Lester are both capable of cutting back, and they are dangerous when they get into the open field. Secondly, OC Joe Cope generally does a good job of keeping the front five on the same page, and they should have some success picking up the blitzes. The backs should have plenty of running room when that happens.

Cox has been hobbled by a knee injury and he isn't making sound decisions in the face of pressure so keeping him upright and giving him time to find the open man when he drops back to pass is a priority. That would be reason for concern most weeks but Alabama has had problems getting to the quarterback all year. Alabama doesn't have a dominant pass rusher up front and its blitz-packages haven't been as productive as hoped. With that in mind, the pass protection should be sound unlike last week and that's not good news for Alabama's secondary. Though corners Ramzee Robinson and Simeon Castille rarely get caught out of position, they should have a hard time matching up with WR Courtney Taylor. Taylor is fast enough to get behind Robinson and is strong enough to push the lean Castille around. However, Kines will consistently double Taylor if WR Rodgeriqus Smith doesn't produce working against single coverage. Though Smith is inconsistent, he has the second gear to track balls downfield and is tall enough to compete for jump balls. He must make the most of his natural ability and force Kines to either drop both safeties back effectively opening up the running game or try to cover Taylor with one man.

Alabama Offense vs. Auburn Defense

Alabama opened up its passing attack against an excellent LSU defense Saturday night and QB John Parker Wilson will get another chance to attack downfield this week. However, expect the Tide to come out running the ball. First off, Alabama can't afford to fall behind early because it doesn't have the weapons to overcome a substantial deficit. That means the Tide need to avoid turnovers that give the Tigers quality starting field position or points. Wilson has thrown eight interceptions this year and lost a fumble last week so keeping the ball on the ground decreases the chances of a turnover. Secondly, RB Kenneth Darby has admittedly had a disappointing season, but he is still the engine that powers this offense. He explodes through holes, rarely goes down with the first hit and should be eager to make an impact in his last game at Bryant-Denny Stadium. While Darby is unlikely to rack up big yards, he doesn't have to break a lot of long runs. In fact, consistently picking up 3 to 4 yards per carry is more important because that would help keep Wilson out of situations with pass-heavy tendencies. The key to Darby's success will be the ability of the Tide's offensive line to prevent penetration and its play has been average at best this year. If the Tigers are able to get into the backfield and force Darby to make cuts in the backfield, he will have a hard time keeping the offense out of situations with pass-heavy tendencies.

DC Jonathan Wilhite struggled last week and Auburn benched him in favor of Pat Lee. It's unclear who will start this week, but obviously offensive coordinator Dave Rader should try to attack the corner who lines up opposite David Irons. The problem is WR Keith Brown aggravated a knee injury last week and may not be available. There isn't much depth behind Brown and fellow starter D.J. Hall so Alabama will have a hard time exploiting this weakness if Hall can't go. In addition, though Irons is substantially shorter than Hall, he is quick and physical. He should have some success limiting Hall's production consequently. Making matters far worse, Wilson should have to hold onto the ball longer if Brown isn't in the lineup and the Tide should have a hard time holding up in pass protection. Freshman LOT Andre Smith is massive and has the long arms to ride pass rushers past the pocket when he can get his hands on them. However, defensive ends Marquies Gunn and Quentin Groves are explosive enough to turn the corner before Smith gets into position and they have good closing speed. Look for Alabama to consistently use a tight end or back to help Smith in an effort to give Wilson enough time to find the open man downfield.

Special Teams

Auburn PK John Vaughan, who has connected on 19 of his 22 field goal attempts, possesses a good blend of accuracy and range. Backup Matt Clark handles the kickoff duties andhas been outstanding, as 46 of his 58 kickoffs have ended in touchbacks. The only concern is two of his kicks have gone out of bounds. P Kody Bliss has a strong leg and flashes the ability to pin the opponent's deep. KORs Tristan Davis and Brad Lester are dangerous open field runners who can make defenders miss and go the distance when they get a seam. Though the punt return unit hasn't been as productive as hoped, PR Robert Dunn has the second gear to outrun defenders when he gets a step so Alabama must be careful not to underestimate him. Tide PK Jamie Christensen has connected on 11 of his 15 field goal attempts and is accurate inside 40 yards but he doesn't have great range and he missed two field goal attempts outside 40 yards last week. He also handles the kickoff duties and has struggled in that role. Only four of his 40 kickoffs have resulted in touchbacks and he has kicked the ball out of bounds three times. Though P P.J. Fitzgerald generally gets good hang time on his kicks and shows nice touch, he lacks ideal range. Return man Javier Arenas is elusive and possesses excellent top-end speed making him a threat to make a big play every time he touches the ball. He returned a punt 65 yards for a touchdown against Florida International earlier this year. However, he hasn't been nearly as productive returning kickoffs.

Matchups
? Alabama LOT Andre Smith vs. Auburn DE Quentin Groves
? Auburn RB Kenny Irons vs. Alabama MLB Prince Hall
? Alabama RB Kenneth Darby vs. Auburn MLB Karibi Dede


Scouts' Edge

On paper, this game looks like a blowout. After all, Auburn's front seven is capable of slowing Darby and forcing Wilson to make plays with his arm. Offensively, Irons and Lester should benefit from running behind a superior offensive line and keep the Tide off balance. QB Brandon Cox should have enough time to find the open man downfield and make fewer mistakes as a result. However, expect a very close game. While Alabama has a disappointing season, a win against the hated War Eagle is exactly the way it wants to head into the offseason. In addition, Auburn's second loss of the season effectively knocked it out of the national championship race and its players could still be reeling from the blowout. With all of that said, the Tigers are the more talented team and another loss would be devastating, so expect them to eek out the win after a slow start.

Prediction: Tigers 24, Crimson Tide 21
 

Marra

Registered User
Forum Member
Aug 31, 2002
958
1
0
Chicago, Tempe
I dont know how "Scouts Inc." got the contract from ESPN, b/c there write ups and predictions reflect Vegas's line about 90% of the time.

Picking Auburn to win by 3...What's the line again?
Oh, Auburn - 3.
WAY TO GO OUT ON THAT LIMB! What a bunch of crap.
 

treynolds

Registered User
Forum Member
Oct 26, 2002
1,502
27
0
44
Elkhorn, WI
so as a bama backer what is your take on this game? To me it seems like a game that shula will mismanage and find away to lose by around 10. any other imput from auburn or bama fans would be appreciated also.
tyler
 

RollTide72

June 8, 2013
Forum Member
Apr 4, 2002
5,401
39
0
53
Greenfield, IN
www.facebook.com
In my opinion, the key to 'Bama having a chance is to get up early, or at the very least, don't fall behind by more than 2 TDs. They were down 14-0 to LSU 10 minutes into the game and got beat 28-14, although they played better than the final score indicated. Turnovers in the redzone and just poor production in the redzone has been the albatross for this year's Tide team. Throw in lousy play calling by Shula and you get a 6-5 season.

I believe that 'BAMA keeps this close for at least a half, but I just think that Auburn will wear 'BAMA down in the 3rd and 4th quarters and win by at least a TD.

I'm not touching it...rivalry games scare me and this is the nastiest rivarly around.

GLTA
 

TLankford

Donkey
Forum Member
Nov 24, 2005
2,001
18
38
41
Austin, TX
Alabama has been terrible in the SEC this year

Auburn has an incredible amount of talent compared to Alabama from any perspective

It all depends on Cox and Auburn's Defense.

Alabama has no chance to really beat Auburn, it's more of Auburn giving the game away that's the threat here.

I am putting the house on Auburn ML more than likely.

-3 is still a very safe play though. IMO

there's $0.02 from an Auburn fan
 

RollTide72

June 8, 2013
Forum Member
Apr 4, 2002
5,401
39
0
53
Greenfield, IN
www.facebook.com
Alabama has been terrible in the SEC this year

Auburn has an incredible amount of talent compared to Alabama from any perspective

It all depends on Cox and Auburn's Defense.

Alabama has no chance to really beat Auburn, it's more of Auburn giving the game away that's the threat here.

I am putting the house on Auburn ML more than likely.

-3 is still a very safe play though. IMO

there's $0.02 from an Auburn fan

Yeah, that's worth about 2 cents. Very objective post.

I wouldn't say that 'Bama has been terrible in the SEC. 4th qtr leads on the road at Arkansas, Florida and Tennessee is hardly terrrible. Now not finishing the game because the coach is too conservative, now that's horrible.

Put your trailer on Auburn, you'll be able to upgrade to a doublewide at the end of the game.

GLTA
 

treynolds

Registered User
Forum Member
Oct 26, 2002
1,502
27
0
44
Elkhorn, WI
does anyone think that maybe auburn played so badly last weekend because they were looking ahead to this game? They bounced back after that arkansas loss very well.

Roll tide i agree with you this is a scary game to play a side on, but hasnt this been a very low scoring affair the last few seasons? I cant really remember, is the under worth looking at in this one.
 

wareagle

World Traveler
Forum Member
Feb 27, 2001
5,712
40
48
47
MEMPHIS, TN
www.dunavant.com
i am playing bama in this spot...i see no reason to back auburn. cox has played like shit all year and we only have 1 decent WR. big differnce from years past. also note the auburn O line has been awful this year and the dline is severly undersized.

no player on this bama squad has ever beaten auburn and hence shula has never beaten us. that will all change this year. auburn has no confidence to do anything offensively and the D has been burned on numerous big plays. if we do win it will be because bama gives us the game with turnovers or bad special teams play.
 

2biguns

Registered User
Forum Member
Oct 13, 2005
27
1
3
Cullman, Alabama
I started out the season winning a ton on AU, then started taking Bama in underdog role and covered every game. Hopefully the dog trend will continue at least for one more game;)
 

TLankford

Donkey
Forum Member
Nov 24, 2005
2,001
18
38
41
Austin, TX
RT72, Yall have won 2 games in the SEC this year. Vandy and Ole Miss... not exactly top performers in the confrerence. Two very good teams, dont get me wrong, the SEC is a very strong and competitive conference this year. But it seems like if JP doesnt have an amazing game, Darby and JJ cant get the ground game on a roll.

But, Auburn looked Terrible last week... and I dont think we can attribute that to looking ahead because that game is the oldest rivalry in the south. We just cant play before 1 PM...

Alabama blowing leads and losing close ballgames - most SEC games were under 7 pt decisions - just means you arent a clutch team... maybe attributed to your sh*t coach.

Nice trailer comment... typical Alabama fan. Classy.

As for the total Trey. It seems right on. Last year the Over hit as Alabama tacked on a meaningless TD on Auburns 2nd string D (1st teams was tired from sacking brody) in the wanning minutes of the game. The year before was also close, staying just below the total.

Auburn's jeckle and Hyde defense is the only reason the total is a dangerous play. I could see JP coming out and tossing a couple TDs, especially after Stafford's raping last week. On the other hand, if we are jacked up like the LSU game or 2nd half FLA game, Alabama may put up under 10 points... Auburn should be good for at least 17-21 points. Doesnt matter if Cox is awake or not.

I'm still sold on Aub -155.

GL
 

benfranklin

Registered User
Forum Member
Aug 20, 2006
77
0
0
Destin, FL
Bottom line, Alabama is pissed off! This whole "Fear the Thumb" thing has gotten the Alabama senior players raging. I have a few key points I will lay down though I am not one who is big on stats. Gambling is just as much a head game as it is a numbers game. I am also a big Auburn fan so this is a bit of a homer write up.
-Auburns QB Cox is banged up. He has still not recovered from LSU throwing him around like a rag doll and his confidence is down. I watched him walk to the sideline and sit down hanging his head every time he came in against UGA. Yet, he is an Alabama native and will be up for this game. Look for him to have 15-17 pass attempts as he will be asked just to not give the game to the Bamers.
-AU running backs are some of the best in the nation. Auburn will rush for 150-170 yards. Enough said.
-Auburns defense is very suspect. I feel that our secondary, excluding D Irons, is by far one of the worst in the SEC. Linebackers-Karibi Dede sucks, Will Herring has great pass coverage skills yet he can't tackle for shit. Tray Blackmon has so much talent and will be anchoring AU's defense next year yet he needs another offseson to learn the defense and fine tune his play.
-Auburn special teams-superb kickers, great return men, at times, piss poor blocking schemes yet as a whole, this is a huge strength in Auburns game.
-Auburn coaches are great recruiters yet here lately that is about the only thing positive I can get out of them. Not because we have lost but because we have gotten totally man handled in our two losses and looked pretty damn bad during alot of our wins. Tubs and Co. will bring their best gameplan of the year to T-Town, get the lead and control the clock.
-Alabama is Alabama. They are always going to have talent and will always make this a game. JP Wilson has been playing well here as of late yet the run game has been down. Andre Smith is AUsome, man I wish we could have landed him, and will be a great one for years to come. Missing piece to the Alabama puzzle------Tyrone Prothro. Alabama, in my mind, does not have a big time playmaker like AU'S CT though they do have a RB with a bad ass name-"Jimmy Johns", damn I am getting hungry. Sorry for the homer play, yet I do believe this is the right side. My Auburn Tigers will once again go in to T-Town and take care of business. M/L is a large play on the Tigers, play on AU giving 3 and a small play on the under. :bigear: My boy Tubs
 
Bet on MyBookie
Top