2012 ELECTION IN GAME THREAD

2012 ELECTION IN GAME THREAD

  • OBAMA

    Votes: 30 36.1%
  • ROMNEY

    Votes: 53 63.9%

  • Total voters
    83

Trampled Underfoot

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why, are blacks unable to vote on the other early voting days? are they unable to wait in a line? are they unable to vote today if they missed the early voting days? Lord knows it's not because most of them were working.

WTF is this? Are you roommates with hedgy?
 

Hashish

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81% counted in Florida and Romney leads by just over 600 votes! This could get ugly again.

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why does changing the days of the week of early voting 'make it harder' for blacks to vote?

is it harder to get to a voting station on, say, saturday, than on sunday? Churches can't organize drives to the polls on any other day than Sunday? or are we simply making excuses about perceived slights?

They go vote after chuch
 

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Florida is a cluster fuck, because they have a shitload of things on the ballot. 15 or so.

If you think the voting is taking a while....wait for the counting!
 

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why is a statement of fact racist?

he was complaining that the change in early voting schedule specifically hampered the black vote. why does it not equally hamper the white vote? i didn't separate on race, i merely responded to it.

You were all wrapped up in the flag a few pages back, too. I "merely responded to it", and you got a case of the ass.

Funny how that shit works with you.
 

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It does not matter who wins

It does not matter who wins

Whomever is elected will be the captain of the "Titanic"

Here is why...


Via Simon Black of Sovereign Man blog,

It?s really hard to ignore what?s happening today; the election phenomenon is global.

Over the last several weeks, I?ve traveled to so many countries, and EVERYWHERE it seems, the US presidential election is big news. Even when I was in Myanmar ten days ago, local pundits were engaged in the Obamney debate. Chile. Spain. Germany. Finland. Hong Kong. Thailand. Singapore. It was inescapable.

The entire world seems fixated on this belief that it actually matters who becomes the President of the United States anymore? or that one of these two guys is going to ?fix? things.

Fact is, it doesn?t matter. Not one bit. And I?ll show you mathematically:

1) When the US federal government spends money, expenses are officially categorized in three different ways.

Discretionary spending includes nearly everything we think of related to government? the US military, Air Force One, the Department of Homeland Security, TSA agents who sexually assault passengers, etc.

Mandatory spending includes entitlements like Medicare, Social Security, VA benefits, etc. which are REQUIRED by law to be paid.

The final category is interest on the debt. It is non-negotiable.

Mandatory spending and debt interest go out the door automatically. It?s like having your mortgage payment autodrafted from your bank account? Congress doesn?t even see the money, it?s automatically deducted.

2) With the rise of baby boomer entitlements and steady increase in overall debt levels, mandatory spending and interest payments have exploded in recent years. In fact, the Congressional Budget Office predicted in 2010 that the US government?s TOTAL revenue would be exceeded by mandatory spending and interest expense within 15-years.

That?s a scary thought. Except it happened the very next year.

3) In Fiscal Year 2011, the federal government collected $2.303 trillion in tax revenue. Interest on the debt that year totaled $454.4 billion, and mandatory spending totaled $2,025 billion. In sum, mandatory spending plus debt interest totaled $2.479 trillion? exceeding total revenue by $176.4 billion.

For Fiscal Year 2012 which just ended 37 days ago, that shortfall increased 43% to $251.8 billion.

In other words, they could cut the entirety of the Federal Government?s discretionary budget? no more military, SEC, FBI, EPA, TSA, DHS, IRS, etc.? and they would still be in the hole by a quarter of a trillion dollars.

4) Raising taxes won?t help. Since the end of World War II, tax receipts in the US have averaged 17.7% of GDP in a very tight range. The low has been 14.4% of GDP, and the high has been 20.6% of GDP.

During that period, however, tax rates have been all over the board. Individual rates have ranged from 10% to 91%. Corporate rates from 15% to 53%. Gift taxes, estate taxes, etc. have all varied. And yet, total tax revenue has stayed nearly constant at 17.7% of GDP.

It doesn?t matter how much they increase tax rates? they won?t collect any more money.

5) GDP growth prospects are tepid at best. Facing so many headwinds like quickening inflation, an enormous debt load, and debilitating regulatory burdens, the US economy is barely keeping pace with population growth.

6) The only thing registering any meaningful growth in the US is the national debt. It took over 200 years for the US government to accumulate its first trillion dollars in debt. It took just 286 days to accumulate the most recent trillion (from $15 trillion to $16 trillion).

Last month alone, the first full month of Fiscal Year 2013, the US government accumulated nearly $200 billion in new debt? 20% of the way to a fresh trillion in just 31 days.

7) Not to mention, the numbers will only continue to get worse. 10,000 people each day begin receiving mandatory entitlements. Fewer people remain behind to pay into the system. The debt keeps rising, and interest payments will continue rising.

8) Curiously, a series of polls taken by ABC News/Washington Post and NBC News/Wall Street Journal show that while 80% of Americans are concerned about the debt, roughly the same amount (78%) oppose cutbacks to mandatory entitlements like Medicare.

9) Bottom line, the US government is legally bound to spend more money on mandatory entitlements and interest than it can raise in tax revenue. It won?t make a difference how high they raise taxes, or even if they cut everything else that remains in government as we know it.
This is not a political problem, it?s a mathematical one. Facts are facts, no matter how uncomfortable they may be. Today?s election is merely a choice of who is going to captain the sinking Titanic.
 
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