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Carol will take heat for going for two up 7 , but I agree with him .. He is saying he likes his chances of making a 2 pt conversion more than stopping Brady from making a two pointer ..
First time I've ever seen that , but I have thought about it before
 

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But you can't lose if Brady scores a 2pt conversion, but now you could... so why go up 9...there is ZERO scenarios where you should ever go for 2pt when you're up 7 and under 5 in the 4th. ZERO
 

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But you can't lose if Brady scores a 2pt conversion, but now you could... so why go up 9...there is ZERO scenarios where you should ever go for 2pt when you're up 7 and under 5 in the 4th. ZERO

I understand your point , but Ne never goes for two to win in reg , and the upshot to it is if sea makes the two , game over ... It's a interesting call either way
 

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2 pt convos are a 48% chance....it's just stupid to go for that......but some people don't care about math so it's whatever.
 

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2 pt convos are a 48% chance....it's just stupid to go for that......but some people don't care about math so it's whatever.

Ask yourself this, does Seattle have a better chance making a two pt conv or stopping Brady from making one ? A Super Bowl winning coach thought his odds of making was better .. I absolutely see y'all's point , just saying there is another way of looking at it .. Have a great week
 

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Ask yourself this, does Seattle have a better chance making a two pt conv or stopping Brady from making one ? A Super Bowl winning coach thought his odds of making was better .. I absolutely see y'all's point , just saying there is another way of looking at it .. Have a great week

The better answer is...I like my chances of stopping NE from scoring a TD + 2pt versus just a TD + XP. I'm honestly not even sure why the former was even a thought.
 

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2 pt convos are a 48% chance....it's just stupid to go for that......but some people don't care about math so it's whatever.

If you go strictly by percentage, kicking the PAT is 94.2% last year and 95.3% YTD this year. So the expected value is actually LESS if you kick. But this is really besides the point. The rationale was that getting the 2pt basically seals the game whereas getting 1 makes it less certain.

It's a similar gamble that Belichick tried to pull off in 2009 against the Colts, going for it on 4th down with about 2 minutes left. Convert and you basically seal the win. Don't convert and a very good chance of losing. They didn't, and Peyton completed a comeback win after being down 17 in the 4th quarter.

This is more of a strategical move than a mathematical move.
 

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If you go strictly by percentage, kicking the PAT is 94.2% last year and 95.3% YTD this year. So the expected value is actually LESS if you kick. But this is really besides the point. The rationale was that getting the 2pt basically seals the game whereas getting 1 makes it less certain.

It's a similar gamble that Belichick tried to pull off in 2009 against the Colts, going for it on 4th down with about 2 minutes left. Convert and you basically seal the win. Don't convert and a very good chance of losing. They didn't, and Peyton completed a comeback win after being down 17 in the 4th quarter.

This is more of a strategical move than a mathematical move.

You said it better than I did .. Lol .. You have to figure in your chances of ending the game right there !
 

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just like a lot of the other coaches most do not have a clue.

pitt scores 4 td and gets 24 points

seattle scores 3 td and gets 19 points and gets lucky

think I had 10 missed extra points today either 2 point tries or missed kicks and lost 3 games by a one or 2 points because of missed extra points.
 
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