300,000 Floridians Lose Their Insurance Under Obamacare

[Skulnik]

300,000 Floridians Lose Their Insurance Under Obamacare
Florida Blue announced yesterday it will have to kick 300,000 Floridians off their health insurance plans because the plans do not comply with the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, also known as Obamacare.

Leading up to the congressional vote on Obamacare, President Obama told Americans, ?If you like your plan, you can keep your plan.? This promise that Obamacare would not force anybody off their preexisting insurance plan played a central role in Obamacare messaging and the bill?s razor-thin passage in the U.S. Senate.

The White House website, whitehouse.gov, continues to promise Americans they can keep their health insurance.

?If you like your plan you can keep it and you don?t have to change a thing due to the health care law,? the website promises. Another page says, ?You can keep your own insurance.?

However, Florida Blue, formerly known as Blue Cross and Blue Shield of Florida, will have to terminate 80 percent of its Florida individual insurance policies to comply with the law.

Florida Blue spokesperson Mark Wright said affected consumers will receive notification by mail.

Wright said he could not say whether the new policies will have higher or lower premiums. Wright noted taxpayers will be paying subsidies on many Obamacare policies, which means real costs to consumers will be higher than what is reflected in the premiums alone.

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[Skulnik]

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[THE KOD]

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[Skulnik]

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[saint]

We've had the same plan for 5 years. One exception: we dropped maternity for 1 year in between kids to save 3500/year in premiums.

That one change means BCBS would not grandfather us in. Saving 3500 at the time will cost me multiple times that.

"If you like your plan you can keep it". Fucking liar.

 

[Skulnik]

"If you like your plan you can keep it". Fucking liar.


Nuff Said

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[THE KOD]

"If you like your plan you can keep it". Fucking liar.


Nuff Said

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I like my health plan and I am keeping it. Deduct went up to 2500 . After that everything at no charge.

 

[Penguinfan]

Stop worrying about people in Florida, there are poor people in this country who need us to pay for their healthcare.


DON'T YOU GUYS GET IT?

 

[BobbyBlueChip]

Yep. No more plans that don't meet minimum requirements. No more having to worry about paying 50k to have a kid because your employer wants to save a few bucks.

Great news!

 

[hedgehog]

It's just the beginning of ins companies dropping customers across the country

Pity really

 

[BobbyBlueChip]

All these insurance policies were started after the law was signed. They knew they were going to have to expire. The author is hoping that it's readers are looking to validate their incorrect beliefs so that he can sell some advertising space. No more substandard health insurance policies.

 

[Skulnik]

when you take away all the PR and all the BS from the media and WH and Dems: and look AT THE FACTS
this is from a report from KAISER HEALTH NEWS (Kaiser is one of the largest med insurance companies)_

To the shock of consumers who believed President Obama?s promise that they could keep their health-insurance plans if they liked them, hundreds of thousands of cancellation notices have been issued since August, according to Kaiser Health News, a service of the health insurance giant Kaiser Permanente.

The letters are going to people who buy their own coverage, which has frustrated many who want to keep what they have and has forced others to buy more costly policies.

The insurers explain that the policies are not in alignment with requirements of Obama?s Affordable Care Act that take effect Jan. 1

Most of the insurers are ending policies sold after the law passed in March 2010.

Some are canceling plans sold to people with pre-existing medical conditions. Obamacare forbids insurers from rejecting applicants with pre-existing conditions or charging them higher prices.

Kaiser Health News said an estimated 14 million people purchase their own coverage because they don?t get it through their jobs.

KHN offered several examples:

Florida Blue is terminating about 300,000 policies, about 80 percent of its individual policies in the state.
Kaiser Permanente in California has sent notices to 160,000 people, about half of its individual business.
Insurer Highmark in Pittsburgh is dropping about 20 percent of its individual market customers.
Independence Blue Cross, the major insurer in Philadelphia, is dropping about 45 percent.
KHN said Blue Shield of California sent about 119,000 cancellation notices out in mid-September, about 60 percent of its individual business.

Spokesman Steve Shivinsky said about two-thirds of those policyholders will see rate increases in their new policies.

Consumer advocates charge that insurance companies may be targeting their most costly enrollees.

They may be ?doing this as an opportunity to push their populations into the exchange and purge their systems,? said Jerry Flanagan, an attorney with the advocacy group Consumer Watchdog in California.

Insurers contend they are only encouraging existing customers to re-enroll in their new plans.

KHN talked to some of the consumers who received cancellation notices and found that their costs will go up, despite the promise of income-based subsidies that are projected to benefit half of all Obamacare enrollees.

?The arithmetic is inescapable,? Patrick Johnston, chief executive officer of the California Association of Health Plans, told KHN.

Costs must be spread, he emphasized, so while some consumers will see their premiums drop, others will pay more ?no matter what people in Washington say.?

 

[Skulnik]

I like my health plan and I am keeping it. Deduct went up to 2500 . After that everything at no charge.

I like my Health Plan too, I HOPE I get to keep it.

 

[BobbyBlueChip]

Sounds like the insurance companies hate this

 

[Penguinfan]

I know I hate it.

 

[saint]

All these insurance policies were started after the law was signed. They knew they were going to have to expire. The author is hoping that it's readers are looking to validate their incorrect beliefs so that he can sell some advertising space. No more substandard health insurance policies.

I suppose if having maternity coverage for men and children and pediatric dental coverage for 80 year olds qualifies as "sub standard" in your book...then by all means, require it for everyone.

What's good for one must be good for all!

Or, we can use some common sense. How about making maternity coverage mandatory for girls and women ages 10-55. Oh, wait, that would make too much sense.

 

[Penguinfan]

I suppose if having maternity coverage for men and children and pediatric dental coverage for 80 year olds qualifies as "sub standard" in your book...then by all means, require it for everyone.

What's good for one must be good for all!

Or, we can use some common sense. How about making maternity coverage mandatory for girls and women ages 10-55. Oh, wait, that would make too much sense.

Asking BBC to make sense is like, well.......asking BBC to make sense.

I honestly don't think he's for Obamacare, I think he's just trolling.

 

[Trampled Underfoot]

We've had the same plan for 5 years. One exception: we dropped maternity for 1 year in between kids to save 3500/year in premiums.

That one change means BCBS would not grandfather us in. Saving 3500 at the time will cost me multiple times that.

"If you like your plan you can keep it". Fucking liar.

Maybe I didn't read this correctly? He said, "If you like your plan you can keep it." Then you changed it by dropping maternity and then you expected to get your old plan back? Sounds like he made it clear.

 

[Trampled Underfoot]

Lot of people are just scared like a bunch of little girls. :mj07:

 

[THE KOD]

exactly

for the neo cons its like Romney lost....................again and again and again