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The juice is -15 either way. I took some VT +17.5 (bought .5 pt). I see it at this time as strictly a numbers play.
YIKES, USC -17 vs V-Tech. That sucks. I was gonna bet my whole account on USC -3 or less. (yes I know I was reaching for -3)
I would take V-Tech +17 in a heartbeat. USC has all new starters on the OL, new WR corps (unless Williams comes back), veteran but new DB's as well. USC very easily could struggle in this opening game on the road and V-Tech has mobile QB (which I hate playing against). USC also plays subs in blowout so backdoor is highly likely with such high spread.
3 things that worry me. V-Tech loves to blitz and that is bad news breaking in a brand new OL unit (but very talented and big). 2nd thing that worries me is V-Tech special teams. Always solid and USC punter is the best in nation but very slow in punting. 3rd as I mentioned above is mobile QB. I guess I can throw in a 4th and that is this is an opening game of season and on the road.
There is chance WR Williams might not make it back and rumor has it that a star upcoming WR (Lewis) might have grade problems and won't qualify unless he passes summer school.
Still early but right now I lean to V-Tech.
Mr Hockey +17.5 looks solid to me.
I would take V-Tech +17 in a heartbeat. USC has all new starters on the OL, new WR corps (unless Williams comes back), veteran but new DB's as well. USC very easily could struggle in this opening game on the road and V-Tech has mobile QB (which I hate playing against). USC also plays subs in blowout so backdoor is highly likely with such high spread.
3 things that worry me. V-Tech loves to blitz and that is bad news breaking in a brand new OL unit (but very talented and big). 2nd thing that worries me is V-Tech special teams. Always solid and USC punter is the best in nation but very slow in punting. 3rd as I mentioned above is mobile QB. I guess I can throw in a 4th and that is this is an opening game of season and on the road.
There is chance WR Williams might not make it back and rumor has it that a star upcoming WR (Lewis) might have grade problems and won't qualify unless he passes summer school.
Still early but right now I lean to V-Tech.
Mr Hockey +17.5 looks solid to me.
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So Scott are you betting big for your crappy bet on the Lakers in 6; You sure went out on a limb on that; you need to stick with your homer glasses and focus on USC that seems to be the only thing you have a decent chance of handicapping. USC -3; are you freaking kidding me; if you ran the books in Vegas; the bookmakers would be breaking their own legs; USC doesn't face a team that they wont be double digit favorites all year long. Their schedule is pathetic. Vtech is the best game on their schedule; Just look at the odds for winning their own conference; i have never in my life seen a team -450 and the 2nd best is CAL which lost 6 freakin games last year at +500. No other conference is even minus anything its at least +150 for Miami and +150 for Oklahoma; it just goes to show you how weak VEGAS not anyone else thinks the PAC 10; try to dispute those numbers and again nice bet on the Lakers; I laughed out loud when i saw you made that bet stick with USC or USC alone or you will be broke quick. Also have you graduated yet or are you shooting to graduate when you are 30!!!!:moon: :moon:
I wouldn't be surprised to see the line balloon up. Defending champs in any sport tend to have inflated lines, especially at the beginning of the season. I'm surprised the line is this high. I expected 10 or 11 at the most. I see tremendous value at 2 td's & a fg.
bbk :flush:
You def. are some type of character. Last time you posted on this forum was April 7th and that was in my thread. That was where you agreed with madjack nobody should bash, but then I replied and blasted you for contradicting yourself. You have not posted since. Here is the thread and it was a blast reading it again. :lol2
BBK last post and Scott4USC's reply (classic, a must read)
So 2 months later you decide to post again and you direct that post to me. Why? Why do you have this obsession over me?
Lets take a look at your post today. It had nothing, NOTHING to do with this thread. It is all about me. Why would anybody want to read your post about me? PLEASE STOP GIVING ME SO MUCH ATTENTION! I don't deserve it.
I guess you missed my post where I hedged my bet and took Pistons to win in 5 (8-1) and Pistons to win in 6 (10.5 -1). I did that after game 2. Very smart move on my part.
Are you stupid? Seriously, are you? I said if USC was -3 I would bet it all on USC, because vegas would have had the spread wrong IMO. Just like I bet it all on USC -6 vs Michigan in the Rose Bowl. I am not making spreads I am trying to bet against spreads I think Vegas will be wrong. I do all my handicapping before the lines come out. If USC was 7pt favorites or less I would def. place a big wager. USC was -3 vs UCLA 2 years ago and I dumped my account on USC and USC won by 20+pts. Vegas makes stupid spreads and when they do I pound it big time. Once again, I said if USC was -3 i was going to pound it. I did not say I would make the line -3. If I was making the line, I would have USC -14.
This thread was started by bombs and it was about USC vs V-Tech. You talk about everything but USC vs V-Tech. Your post providing nothing beneficial to anybody, except maybe some laughs at your stupidity.
Your post was.........
OFF TOPIC :topic:
You def. are some type of character. Last time you posted on this forum was April 7th and that was in my thread. That was where you agreed with madjack nobody should bash, but then I replied and blasted you for contradicting yourself. You have not posted since. Here is the thread and it was a blast reading it again. :lol2
BBK last post and Scott4USC's reply (classic, a must read)
So 2 months later you decide to post again and you direct that post to me. Why? Why do you have this obsession over me?
Lets take a look at your post today. It had nothing, NOTHING to do with this thread. It is all about me. Why would anybody want to read your post about me? PLEASE STOP GIVING ME SO MUCH ATTENTION! I don't deserve it.
I guess you missed my post where I hedged my bet and took Pistons to win in 5 (8-1) and Pistons to win in 6 (10.5 -1). I did that after game 2. Very smart move on my part.
Are you stupid? Seriously, are you? I said if USC was -3 I would bet it all on USC, because vegas would have had the spread wrong IMO. Just like I bet it all on USC -6 vs Michigan in the Rose Bowl. I am not making spreads I am trying to bet against spreads I think Vegas will be wrong. I do all my handicapping before the lines come out. If USC was 7pt favorites or less I would def. place a big wager. USC was -3 vs UCLA 2 years ago and I dumped my account on USC and USC won by 20+pts. Vegas makes stupid spreads and when they do I pound it big time. Once again, I said if USC was -3 i was going to pound it. I did not say I would make the line -3. If I was making the line, I would have USC -14.
This thread was started by bombs and it was about USC vs V-Tech. You talk about everything but USC vs V-Tech. Your post providing nothing beneficial to anybody, except maybe some laughs at your stupidity.
Your post was.........
OFF TOPIC :topic:
why would you even bring up -3 at all, the line is -17.5 or 15 whatever. who cares how much you would bet, the line aint that way. thats like anybody saying, well if VA TECH was getting +27 i would bet my house on it. well it aint that way, its -17.5. get a grip guys
You are so full of crap; what handicapping do you do on anything; you act like you are some big time handicapper. Your biggest bet ever is what I make in a day. Why dont you spend more time on hitting the books and graduating and less time in madjacks posting your homer drivel. Yea there is a reason i have not been back i have been at work making more money than you will in the next 30 years dipstick. You know absolutely NOTHING about handicapping unless its about usc so dont even try to sit there and act like you do by say you handicap games before they come out because its comical to me and everyone else; you cant even handicap usc games what a joke
Yeah Scott, and I was going to bet the house on Baylor +99 against Iowa State. Take it to the bank.
You people are hilarious except BBK is just sad.
Kdogg21
I said I was hoping USC would have been -3. You have a problem with me saying that? Unbelievable. You guys have some issues. If you don't like what I write, or disagree with 1 line I wrote, why not ignore it? You people crack me up.
Avalanche
Much higher probability USC being -3 vs V-Tech than Baylor +99 against Iowa St. Either way, I would pound both.
BBK
Once again, why do you post to me if you hate me so much? Why? Stop obessing over me. You have made at least 40 posts on madjacks directed to me. That is a sick obsession. I feel so sorry for you.
:lol: You are so mature. I could care less if you make a 6-7 figure salary.
Why is my personal life being talked about? Why are you obsessing about me again? FYI I finished last year with my BA and earned my BS last May from a top 10 Undergraduate Business School in the country.
That is really sad you feel the need to prove something to me? I will always look down upon you until you stop acting immature. Stop obessing over me and stop showing your lack of intelligence.. Why are you so threatened by me? You're pathetic.
Kdogg21
I said I was hoping USC would have been -3. You have a problem with me saying that? Unbelievable. You guys have some issues. If you don't like what I write, or disagree with 1 line I wrote, why not ignore it? You people crack me up.
Avalanche
Much higher probability USC being -3 vs V-Tech than Baylor +99 against Iowa St. Either way, I would pound both.
BBK
Once again, why do you post to me if you hate me so much? Why? Stop obessing over me. You have made at least 40 posts on madjacks directed to me. That is a sick obsession. I feel so sorry for you.
:lol: You are so mature. I could care less if you make a 6-7 figure salary.
Why is my personal life being talked about? Why are you obsessing about me again? FYI I finished last year with my BA and earned my BS last May from a top 10 Undergraduate Business School in the country.
That is really sad you feel the need to prove something to me? I will always look down upon you until you stop acting immature. Stop obessing over me and stop showing your lack of intelligence.. Why are you so threatened by me? You're pathetic.
Wow Scott, I did a pull of all your threads here lately and wondered why you hadn't been posting in the football area in awhile (mainly in that you weren't answering any of my questions) and I was "shocked" to see a bunch of people in the NBA Forum ripping you a new one there too.
Seems you're pretty consistent.
Here are the odds for each team to win the respective conference per Olympic:
Pac 10
991 Southern Cal -450
992 Washington +1500
993 Arizona State +1500
994 Oregon State +1000
995 Oregon +800
996 Stanford +6600
997 Washington State +1800
998 UCLA +1000
999 Arizona +6000
1000 California +500
Big 12
971 Oklahoma +105
972 Texas +250
973 Kansas State +450
974 Texas A and M +2500
975 Colorado +2000
976 Nebraska +800
977 Oklahoma State +1500
978 Missouri +650
979 Texas Tech +2000
980 Iowa State +5000
981 Kansas +5000
982 Baylor +7500
SEC
1011 Georgia +280
1012 Florida +350
1013 Auburn +300
1014 Tennessee +650
1015 LSU +300
1016 Mississippi +1600
1017 South Carolina +1000
1018 Arkansas +1500
1019 Mississippi State +6600
1020 Vanderbilt +6600
1021 Kentucky +5000
1022 Alabama +1500
Go ahead and post your pond moss about how tough the Pac 10 is now. Vegas knows more than you.
Seems you're pretty consistent.
Here are the odds for each team to win the respective conference per Olympic:
Pac 10
991 Southern Cal -450
992 Washington +1500
993 Arizona State +1500
994 Oregon State +1000
995 Oregon +800
996 Stanford +6600
997 Washington State +1800
998 UCLA +1000
999 Arizona +6000
1000 California +500
Big 12
971 Oklahoma +105
972 Texas +250
973 Kansas State +450
974 Texas A and M +2500
975 Colorado +2000
976 Nebraska +800
977 Oklahoma State +1500
978 Missouri +650
979 Texas Tech +2000
980 Iowa State +5000
981 Kansas +5000
982 Baylor +7500
SEC
1011 Georgia +280
1012 Florida +350
1013 Auburn +300
1014 Tennessee +650
1015 LSU +300
1016 Mississippi +1600
1017 South Carolina +1000
1018 Arkansas +1500
1019 Mississippi State +6600
1020 Vanderbilt +6600
1021 Kentucky +5000
1022 Alabama +1500
Go ahead and post your pond moss about how tough the Pac 10 is now. Vegas knows more than you.
Avalanche
If you have noticed "most" of the people who have a problem with me are posters who never have anything intelligent to say. It is quite comical. Don't believe me? Do a past search on their posts. I enjoy interacting with you because you at least have substance behind your posts. Although sometimes you fall off the deep end as well.
USC -450 is horrible bet.
Georgia +280 looks like a solid bet.
Oregon +800 is very good value.
Vegas wants to make money. Vegas does not predict scores or who are the better teams. Vegas wants even action to make $$$. You know that. You failed to mention USC is less than 3-1 to win the championship. 3-1 to win the title is ridiculous.
If you have noticed "most" of the people who have a problem with me are posters who never have anything intelligent to say. It is quite comical. Don't believe me? Do a past search on their posts. I enjoy interacting with you because you at least have substance behind your posts. Although sometimes you fall off the deep end as well.
USC -450 is horrible bet.
Georgia +280 looks like a solid bet.
Oregon +800 is very good value.
Vegas wants to make money. Vegas does not predict scores or who are the better teams. Vegas wants even action to make $$$. You know that. You failed to mention USC is less than 3-1 to win the championship. 3-1 to win the title is ridiculous.
hahahah. i wish that USC was -3. your so stupid. come on. where in your right mind would you think that USC would be -3. hey,did you know santa claus is fake Scott??
'I said I was hoping USC would have been -3. You have a problem with me saying that? Unbelievable. You guys have some issues. If you don't like what I write, or disagree with 1 line I wrote, why not ignore it? You people crack me up.'
gee. isn't that ironic.
'I said I was hoping USC would have been -3. You have a problem with me saying that? Unbelievable. You guys have some issues. If you don't like what I write, or disagree with 1 line I wrote, why not ignore it? You people crack me up.'
gee. isn't that ironic.
Scott4USC said:Avalanche
If you have noticed "most" of the people who have a problem with me are posters who never have anything intelligent to say. It is quite comical. Don't believe me? Do a past search on their posts. I enjoy interacting with you because you at least have substance behind your posts. Although sometimes you fall off the deep end as well.
USC -450 is horrible bet.
Georgia +280 looks like a solid bet.
Oregon +800 is very good value.
Vegas wants to make money. Vegas does not predict scores or who are the better teams. Vegas wants even action to make $$$. You know that. You failed to mention USC is less than 3-1 to win the championship. 3-1 to win the title is ridiculous.
I don't think +280 is a good value. Oregon +800 is a joke considering they don't face USC. I'd make them lower but I'll take +800 & run with it.
Scott4USC said:
Actually, that's not been my impression at all in any facet whatsoever.
Vegas doesn't predict scores or who the better teams are? Are you kidding?
Yes I failed to mention USC was a 3-1 fave to win it "all" (for the first time since the 1970s) but you failed to mention that you were "all over this" since it was a "lock" with Mike Williams coming back. When he was potentially not returning, then you decided to back off your claim that USC would "hands down" win the NC in 2004.
Anyone remember who the last preseason #1 was that actually won the NC?
Hint: 1999
