5dimes Violation

[yyz]

Here's the rule you posted for them, which seems about the same as any other book:

All team sporting events must be played on the dates scheduled unless otherwise specified. If an event is postponed and/or rescheduled, that event will automatically constitute "NO ACTION." Soccer events must be played within two days of the original date scheduled.

Now, I read, "All team sporting events must be played on the dates scheduled unless otherwise specified. Followed by: Soccer events must be played within two days of the original date scheduled.


Since your game WAS played within that two day limit.......it would seem the, If an event is postponed and/or rescheduled, that event will automatically constitute "NO ACTION." , does NOT apply, as it was CLEARLY, "otherwise stated".

:shrug:


Don't drag them into court just yet.

 

[$COOTER]

The game was played, it was played at the scheduled time and then abandoned. Just because it was rescheduled for 2 days later does not mean my bet should carry over to that game. I had the bet won when it was abandoned, so a canceled bet is unfortunate as it is. But then 5dimes posts new totals and new lines for a game 2 days later and applied my bet from 2 days before to this new game.

Imagine any other game, football, basketball, baseball, being played past halfway, being postponed for 2 days, and then after those 2 days they restart from the beginning. It's a new day, new circumstances, new totals and lines being offered.

My game had action, and then was abandoned. I did not bet on the match 2 days later when 5dimes posted new totals and lines, I bet on Mondays match.

3 emails sent to 5dimes and "Tony", no response.

 

[gambinoshark]

Here's the rule you posted for them, which seems about the same as any other book:

All team sporting events must be played on the dates scheduled unless otherwise specified. If an event is postponed and/or rescheduled, that event will automatically constitute "NO ACTION." Soccer events must be played within two days of the original date scheduled.

Now, I read, "All team sporting events must be played on the dates scheduled unless otherwise specified. Followed by: Soccer events must be played within two days of the original date scheduled.


Since your game WAS played within that two day limit.......it would seem the, If an event is postponed and/or rescheduled, that event will automatically constitute "NO ACTION." , does NOT apply, as it was CLEARLY, "otherwise stated".

:shrug:


Don't drag them into court just yet.

seems pretty cut and dry to me??? :shrug:

 

[The Judge]

3 emails sent to 5dimes and "Tony", no response.

I will be very interested to hear what Tony has to say when you tell him that you are going to sue them. ... :0corn

 

[$COOTER]

When I suggested legal action the person I was talking to who claimed to be "Tony" responded with "spank me daddy"...as if my "threats" were treating him like a child. And then he ended the conversation saying "blue balls". This was after hours of talking with customer service to get someone in charge to fix this error. Classy operation over there at 5dimes.

 

[justin22g]

under what cause of action would you sue?

 

[saint]

Here's the rule you posted for them, which seems about the same as any other book:

All team sporting events must be played on the dates scheduled unless otherwise specified. If an event is postponed and/or rescheduled, that event will automatically constitute "NO ACTION." Soccer events must be played within two days of the original date scheduled.

Now, I read, "All team sporting events must be played on the dates scheduled unless otherwise specified. Followed by: Soccer events must be played within two days of the original date scheduled.


Since your game WAS played within that two day limit.......it would seem the, If an event is postponed and/or rescheduled, that event will automatically constitute "NO ACTION." , does NOT apply, as it was CLEARLY, "otherwise stated".

:shrug:


Don't drag them into court just yet.

Exactly, stop being such a pussy. The rules clearly state for soccer that in the event of a game cut short, if the makeup game is played within 2 days the bet stays as is.

You wouldn't be crying over this if the 2nd game had gone over.

Furthermore, congratulations on feeding into the stereotypes that lawyers are dirtbags. So, every time in your life you feel wronged, no matter how insignificant, you are going to pull out the "I'll sue you" card. Scum of the earth.

 

[justin22g]

Exactly, stop being such a pussy. The rules clearly state for soccer that in the event of a game cut short, if the makeup game is played within 2 days the bet stays as is.

You wouldn't be crying over this if the 2nd game had gone over.

Furthermore, congratulations on feeding into the stereotypes that lawyers are dirtbags. So, every time in your life you feel wronged, no matter how insignificant, you are going to pull out the "I'll sue you" card. Scum of the earth.

so should I drop out of law school? :shrug:

Hell, after the exams I just took... I might not be invited back :00hour

 

[kneifl]

I will be very interested to hear what Tony has to say when you tell him that you are going to sue them. ... :0corn

You might find this funny, but I don't. This also is not something I would expect from someone representing a sponsor on this site (unless your trying to repel people from your book).

I have had problems with certain books before (even sponsors) and I won't name them but it's a bunch of BS to get wronged.

Here are a few that I use that are sponsors here that have treated me very well. In numerical order:

1. BetJamaica
2. SBG Global
3. Sportsbook.com

I use a local a lot too (more so now), just for the fact that I don't want to try a new book that might wrong me. Also, some of the policies of certain sportsbooks has become greedy since gov't intervention with the transfer of money (re: gambling). Sure they offer you a bonus (with a rollover), but you get a fee for withdrawal, are only offered so many payment options, etc. etc. etc. The list goes on.

Anyway, good luck with 5dimes - hope you get your money.

kneifl

 

[saint]

so should I drop out of law school? :shrug:

Hell, after the exams I just took... I might not be invited back :00hour

of course not dude, i've got a bunch of buddies who are lawyers. Unfortunately for you there are dbags like this guy who give you a bad name.

 

[saint]

You might find this funny, but I don't. This also is not something I would expect from someone representing a sponsor on this site (unless your trying to repel people from your book).

I found it funny. Where is he going to sue him, in a US Court of Law where the argument could be made that gambling online is illegal? Sounds like a good plan :142smilie :mj07: :mj07: :mj07:

 

[$COOTER]

Exactly, stop being such a pussy. The rules clearly state for soccer that in the event of a game cut short, if the makeup game is played within 2 days the bet stays as is.

If you could only comprehend what you read you wouldn't come across as such a moron.

The rules state the match must be played within 48 hours. Which it was. The rules state abandoned matched will be graded "no action", which it was graded a loss.

If the match had never been played in the first place, and then was played 2 days later, within the 48 hour time limit, then the grading as a loss would be acceptable.

However, the match was played within 48 hours, it was played at the scheduled time, and then abandoned. Hence the rules for abandoned matches.

No where in the rules does it say if a match is played, had action, is abandoned, and then rescheduled for a later date your bet will be applied to this new match, with different lines and totals. Hence the rule posted for abandoned matches.

 

[gambinoshark]

You might find this funny, but I don't. This also is not something I would expect from someone representing a sponsor on this site (unless your trying to repel people from your book).

I have had problems with certain books before (even sponsors) and I won't name them but it's a bunch of BS to get wronged.

Here are a few that I use that are sponsors here that have treated me very well. In numerical order:

1. BetJamaica
2. SBG Global
3. Sportsbook.com

I use a local a lot too (more so now), just for the fact that I don't want to try a new book that might wrong me. Also, some of the policies of certain sportsbooks has become greedy since gov't intervention with the transfer of money (re: gambling). Sure they offer you a bonus (with a rollover), but you get a fee for withdrawal, are only offered so many payment options, etc. etc. etc. The list goes on.

Anyway, good luck with 5dimes - hope you get your money.

kneifl

according to the rules he did not get wronged unless i am missing something???

 

[gambinoshark]

If you could only comprehend what you read you wouldn't come across as such a moron.

The rules state the match must be played within 48 hours. Which it was. The rules state abandoned matched will be graded "no action", which it was graded a loss.

If the match had never been played in the first place, and then was played 2 days later, within the 48 hour time limit, then the grading as a loss would be acceptable.

However, the match was played within 48 hours, it was played at the scheduled time, and then abandoned. Hence the rules for abandoned matches.

No where in the rules does it say if a match is played, had action, is abandoned, and then rescheduled for a later date your bet will be applied to this new match, with different lines and totals. Hence the rule posted for abandoned matches.

your abandoned / postponed match was clealry played within the 48 hr window therefor it is still a live bet, what part of that are you not getting?

 

[$COOTER]

It was played at the original time. Giving it action. And then abandoned. By those rules alone it should have been graded "no action" after the first time it had action at the original playing date and then abandoned.

It then had action for a second time 48 hours later, and was graded based on that second action. And 5dimes also posted new lines and totals for the match 48 hours later, in essence making it a new match, one I did not bet on 48 hours prior, because it was a different date with different totals and lines. If they had not posted a new betting line and totals 48 hours later I would assume the lines and totals from 2 days prior applied.

I understand your point. But my point is it had action originally, and then abandoned. The rules don't say anything about having action, being abandoned, and then having action again within 48 hours and being graded based on the "second action".

Action action action action.

 

[$COOTER]

I have a lot of work to do now. But I appreciate all the comments, right or wrong, I'm more upset about the way it was handled and the way I was treated by customer service and "Tony" rather than the actual technicality of the rules and the bet amount.

 

[saint]

If you could only comprehend what you read you wouldn't come across as such a moron.

The rules state the match must be played within 48 hours. Which it was. The rules state abandoned matched will be graded "no action", which it was graded a loss.

If the match had never been played in the first place, and then was played 2 days later, within the 48 hour time limit, then the grading as a loss would be acceptable.

However, the match was played within 48 hours, it was played at the scheduled time, and then abandoned. Hence the rules for abandoned matches.

No where in the rules does it say if a match is played, had action, is abandoned, and then rescheduled for a later date your bet will be applied to this new match, with different lines and totals. Hence the rule posted for abandoned matches.

Come on man, you're smart enough to get into law school. This is so cut and dry. You know it too, because in your original post you conveniently left off the 2nd part of the rule, which specifically applies to soccer. Surely you read it...so why did you not post it here?

"All team sporting events must be played on the dates scheduled unless otherwise specified. If an event is postponed and/or rescheduled, that event will automatically constitute "NO ACTION." Soccer events must be played within two days of the original date scheduled."

It clearly states that in the event of a postponement THAT event will constitute "No Action". That does not mean that the bet is nullified. Which is what you are trying to say. It clearly states in the next line that if a soccer game is played within 2 days of the original date the bet is still live. What else would you take this to mean?

I hope your interpretive skills are better than this or you aren't going to last long as a lawyer.

 

[$COOTER]

It was not POSTPONED. A postponed event would not take place and be scheduled for a later date. My bet was played, that's the argument here, it had action, and was abandoned.

Postponed and abandoned have 2 separate meanings. Hence the section in the rules on abandoned matches.

 

[The Judge]

You might find this funny, but I don't.l

I didn't say that it was funny, Jon. I just know from dealing with Tony myself what his reaction might be if threatened with a lawsuit over the issue.

 

[dawgball]

I would think as a young lawyer, your "hours" spent on this matter should be worth more than $33.

I'm all for a company treating customers right. Your approach seems to have put them on the defensive.

Customers are not always right.

I'm not condoning what was said in the customer service chat, but someone can only help people who are willing to help as well.

Sue? That's hilarious. I, for one, do find that very funny.