8 Top Auto Maintenance Myths

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8 Top Auto Maintenance Myths

By Terry Jackson
December 17, 2004
Want to save hundreds of dollars a year on automobile maintenance?
Then stop over-maintaining your vehicle.
Sales pitches by fast-and-furious oil change shops and service centers touting all sorts of fluid flushes and lube jobs have Americans wasting wads of cash on unnecessary service items -- particularly on vehicles built in the last 10 years.
Often bewildered by the mass of electronics, wires and hoses that adorn a modern engine, many drivers simply put themselves at the mercy of service facilities that may only be interested in running up your bill.
Of course there's the flip side to all of this: Some drivers never gets cars serviced and then wonder why the engine seizes after the oil has turned to sludge.
But it's more likely that you're one of those drivers who follow the maintenance advice your dad gave you 30 years ago when you got your first car.
Thanks to computer-controlled ignitions, improvements in filter technology, upgraded suspension designs and other mechanical improvements developed by the manufacturers, today's vehicles require far less maintenance than the cars our parents drove.
Doubt that premise?
Check your owner's manual and see what it says about when to change oil or do other maintenance. The 2005 Honda Civic, for example, calls for oil changes every 10,000 miles. The average recommended oil change interval industry-wide tends to be 7,500 miles.
General Motors, Mercedes-Benz and other manufacturers have added an oil life indicator on the instrument cluster that tells you when the oil needs changing. The car's computer keeps track of starts and stops, as well as other factors, and calculates the oil's useful interval. Depending on how you drive, GM says it's possible to see 10,000 miles or more between oil changes.
These guidelines are coming from companies that have a vested interest in keeping your car running trouble-free: If you're happy with the car or truck, you're more likely to buy another one. And a well-maintained car means the manufacturer has to pay out less in warranty claims.
Even Motor Age magazine -- the publication for the automotive service industry (the people who want your service and repair business) -- put it succinctly: "Following the factory schedule should keep nearly any car or truck healthy past the warranty period."
Consider that the average household has two vehicles and drives each 15,000 miles a year. Following the advice of the local change-a-lot fast lube outlet -- to change oil and filter every 3,000 miles -- the average family would pay for 10 oil and filter changes every year. At, say, $30 a pop, that's $300.
That same family could cut its oil change bill by $180 by following the manufacturer's advice to change oil every 7,500 miles.
There are some exceptions that might require more frequent oil changes: Driving in an abnormally dusty climate or taking a lot of short, stop-and-go trips. But the oil change interval for such conditions is again spelled out in the owner's manual. No need to do it more frequently.
A word of caution about owner's manuals: Some dealers, in an effort to boost profits, give buyers a "supplemental" owner's manual or service guide that calls for more frequent servicing. Don't be fooled into thinking you have to follow these recommendations -- it's just the dealer's way of competing with the fast-lube places for your money.
Beyond oil changes, the basic servicing of a vehicle is becoming less demanding, particularly within the first 60,000 miles of ownership.
Spark plugs don't have to be changed for at least 100,000 miles, and most new cars don't require any chassis lubrication. With coolant systems that are entirely recirculating and with coolant manufacturers making strides in their products' chemical components, the seasonal radiator flush is becoming a thing of the past.
Yet anyone who goes to a service facility is likely to get pitched "routine" maintenance services from fuel injector cleaning to coolant flushes to air-conditioner refrigerant replacement.
Just say no -- or at the very least compare what they're trying to sell with what your owner's manual recommends -- and you can avoid hundreds of dollars in unnecessary maintenance costs a year.
Here are eight of the most common auto maintenance myths:
Greasy kids' stuff. Unless your owner's manual calls for it, don't change every 3,000 miles. Also, don't waste money on more expensive synthetic oil unless your car requires it. Use only the grade and quality oil specified in your owner's manual.
Un-classy chassis. If someone says your chassis needs lubing, check it out before doing anything. Most cars built in the last 10 years don't require lubrication. And if the mechanic says he can put in a fitting so the chassis can be lubed (pumped full of grease), don't fall for it. Adding grease where none is required could lead to problems.
Looney tune-ups. Computer-controlled engines have made the standard tune-up a thing of the past. It used to be a tune-up called for new spark plugs and ignition parts like distributor cap, points and rotor. Aside from spark plugs, cars don't have points and rotors and many don't have traditional distributor caps.
Filter fantasy. There are a plethora of filters -- oil, air, fuel, transmission -- on modern vehicles, and they all need replacing at some time or another. But not at every oil-change interval. Air filters often can be blown clean with compressed air and then replaced at every other oil change. Check the owner's manual for recommended replacement intervals for all filters.
Transmission-friction fiction. Flushing the automatic transmission system also is often recommended by service centers as a routine maintenance item. But most manufacturers say it's not needed until at least 60,000 miles -- if then. If your transmission has a filter, check the owner's manual for when it should be replaced.
Hot flushes. It used to be conventional wisdom that you drained your radiator twice a year at spring and fall. But most cars now have closed systems that don't lose coolant over time, and modern coolant fluids -- antifreeze in our parents' jargon -- can last two years and more before losing effectiveness.
Injection deception. Sometimes cleaning fuel injectors means adding a bottle of fluid to the gas tank; other times it's a mechanical procedure involving a sort of pressure cleaning and chemical wash costing $50 and up. Either way, don't do it unless called for by the manufacturer. Few of them do. Gasoline is required to have a certain detergent component that will keep injectors and combustion chambers clean. If your vehicle is running rough, there are likely other causes and injector cleaning isn't likely to help over the long-term.
Warranty validity. Some dealers will tell you that you have to get the recommended service items done at their shop to keep your warranty in force. They may even tell you that you have to follow their supplemental service list. Not true. You can get service done anywhere; you can even do it yourself. Just keep records and receipts, should any questions arise over a warranty claim. What is true, however, is that doing no maintenance -- oil changes and filters at recommended intervals -- can void a warranty.
 

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i've got the northstar engine and will continue to change the oil every 3000 miles. i've never heard anybody anywhere say different. and, hell, it can't hurt, that's for sure.

General Motors, Mercedes-Benz and other manufacturers have added an oil life indicator on the instrument cluster that tells you when the oil needs changing. The car's computer keeps track of starts and stops, as well as other factors, and calculates the oil's useful interval. Depending on how you drive, GM says it's possible to see 10,000 miles or more between oil changes.


usually the computer says i have 50% oil life left by the time 3000 miles hit but i'm still staying on the safe side. too costly to fix this engine should i have problems later on.
 

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interesting. How about if you drive an older car?

What makes me mad is it's hard to find a mechanic that is a diagnostician himself. No more of the going to the shop and saying, "when I turn corners, the engine makes a put, put, put sound" etc. Most just want to hook u up to a computer and charge you 75 bucks right off the bat. That's what makes me mad.
 

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Chopsticks said:
Check your owner's manual and see what it says about when to change oil or do other maintenance. The 2005 Honda Civic, for example, calls for oil changes every 10,000 miles. The average recommended oil change interval industry-wide tends to be 7,500 miles.

If you believe this, you're a nut. :) Some vehicles can get away with an extended oil change interval but you should read the fine print. As per their example, the '05 Civic has a recommended interval of 10k miles for "normal conditions" and 7.5k for "severe conditions". In most cases, it can be a fine borderline whether you qualify for normal or severe conditions. Does the article happen to mention that this interval is done using Honda motor oil, which is a synthetic manufactured esp. for them by Mobil oil and not the conventional oil that most people would buy at their local Walmart.

Does the article happen to mention that Toyota, Mercedes, and VW are dealing with the afterlash of engines that have gone bad do to sludge buildup and the wear caused by it.

Does the article happen to mention that car manufacturers would prefer you to feel that the maintenance of their vehicles is low cost until over 100,000 miles because they are more in the business to sell cars and not service.

Just a little food for thought until I give another write-up on this article. :cursin:
 

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Chopsticks said:
These guidelines are coming from companies that have a vested interest in keeping your car running trouble-free: If you're happy with the car or truck, you're more likely to buy another one. And a well-maintained car means the manufacturer has to pay out less in warranty claims.

Car companies are not as worried about your trouble-free car as they are about selling you another car. Since the average new car owner doesn't keep the car for over 100k miles, car manufacturers are concerned about keeping the initial owner's costs down, for a higher feeling of ownership value, and keeping the vehicle trouble-free for its early life, for a higher feeling of vehicle quality.

The car owner that keeps their car for a few years and then trades in on a new car is the person that car manufacturers dream of. This type of owner is not usually concerned about the full life of the vehicle and whether that car will ever see over 125,000 miles. They are worried about the short-term and these are usually the cars you want to stay away from on used car lots.

The car owner that does strict maintenance to their vehicle and isn't worried about extending every service interval to the extreme limit is usually the owner that appreciates a good performing, reliable car.

BTW, a well-maintained car doesn't necessarily mean that the car manufacturer has to pay out less in warranty claims. Defects in product design or quality are a bigger factor in warranty payouts. Just ask anyone that has had their transmission replaced on their well-maintained late model Honda or Acura. :rolleyes:
 

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Woman: "It's making a wierd noise."

Mechanic: "What kind of car do you own, Mam?

Woman: "It's a yellow one."
 

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Get my oil changed 1st of every month (2000 to 2500 miles)
Don't know if it is necessary but current car Infinate is just hitting 190,000 miles and runs like new.Have done same on prior cars with same result so not going to change.Only maintanece I've done in addition to oil change is have Timing chain hoses belts and water pump changed every 100,000 miles.

Heres little tip to help you from getting ripped and have yet to see service people use it. If car won't start you usually get the "its prob the battery "or" alternator" from service people. You replace one usually least expensive battery, 1st only to find its your alternator.
Find out before you go to service station---Jump car--whiles it running unhook battery--if it quits its your alternator--if it keeps running its your battery.
 

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DOGS THAT BARK said:
Find out before you go to service station---Jump car--whiles it running unhook battery--if it quits its your alternator--if it keeps running its your battery.

You can do this to help find out if the battery is your problem but be careful on what car you do try this on and for how long you leave the battery disconnected. Some domestic cars from the late '80s and early '90s do not like the resulting voltage spike that come from running the engine on alternator power alone.

A quality shop should have a starting system tester that will test the battery power, electrical system load, and system charging status on the vehicle. If they really appreciate your business, they will go through the trouble to fix the problem right the first time. This builds the confidence that brings the customer back for a long-term business relationship. :)
 

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Good advice Red-- learned my little method back in 70's when working for Chrysler Corp--never dawned on me it might be out dated by now--that comes with age ;)
 

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I cover a wide swath of Eastern Iowa/Western Illinois for my work and I put 30,000+ miles on my car every year and change the oil at every 3000 miles without fail.
My work vehicle is a 1994 Mazda 626 with 218,500 miles on it. Only major thing I've done to it is replace the timing belt at 160,000 miles and I hope to squeeze 2 more years of life out of it.

Whether its because I change the oil every 3000 miles that its still on the road or the fact that most of those miles are on the interstate at 70 MPH with the cruise control on, I don't know. But I sure ain't gonna start letting the oil go any longer than I currently do.....
 

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Hamster said:
Are synthetic oils worth the cost?

Hard to say. It really depends on driving conditions, driving habits, and the vehicle itself. I use synthetic in my second car because it has a turbo engine with a known sludge buildup problem and I change the oil based on time, not mileage, since the car usually only sees the road once or twice a month. :)
 
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