9/11 Commission Report Rebuffs Kosar

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9/11 Commission Report Rebuffs Kosar

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*No attacks since 9/11. I always love this one. Yes, almost a whole 3 years has gone by since there has been an attack on our soil. There have been 2 major attacks on US soil perpetrated by a foreign country in our nations history(The first WTC bombing killed a dozen people, same as Columbine). One in 1941 and one in 2001. 60 years between attacks with one of them on Dubya's watch. While I don't blame Bush for 9/11, I think it borders on absurdity to give him props for no attacks in 3 years. A better way to look at it is that there has been 1 attack in three years and it just happened to be the worst attack in Americas history.

*Patriot Act? If you think this is good for the country or helps fight terrorism, then I can't help you. Stop thinking like a brainwashed robot (no offense Freeze) and stop allowing yourself to be scared shitless by this admin with their silly 'alert levels' and assertions that the 'Patriot Act' is anything more than a ruse.

Kosar seems to think we are on a 60 year cycle on major attacks on US soil and don?t worry about the current Al Qaeda threat. :banghead:

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This is from the press conference of the 9/11 Commission Report. July 22, 2004

?Every expert with whom we spoke told us that an attack of even greater magnitude is now possible--and even probable. We do not have the luxury of time. We must prepare and we must act.

The al Qaeda network and its affiliates are sophisticated, patient, disciplined, and
lethal. Usama Bin Ladin built an infrastructure and organization that was able to attract, train and use recruits against ever more ambitious targets. He rallied new zealots with each demonstration of al Qaeda?s capability. His message and hate-filled ideology have instructed and inspired untold recruits and imitators. He and al Qaeda: despise America and its policies; exploit political grievances and hopelessness within the Arab and Islamic world; indoctrinate the disaffected and pervert one of the world?s great religions; and seek creative methods to kill Americans in limitless numbers, including the use of chemical, biological and nuclear weapons. Put simply, the United States is presented with one of the great security challenges in our history. We have struck blows against the terrorists since 9/11. We have prevented attacks on the homeland. We believe we are safer today than we were on 9/11 ? but we are not safe.

Because al Qaeda represents an ideology ? not a finite group of people ? we should not expect the danger to recede for years to come. No matter whom we kill or capture ? including Usama Bin Ladin ? there will still be those who plot against us. Bin Ladin has inspired affiliates and imitators. The societies they prey on are vulnerable; the terrorist ideology is potent; and the means for inflicting harm are readily available. We cannot let our guard down.

Recommendations ? A Global Strategy
This Commission does not have all the answers. But we have thought about what to do ? a global strategy ? and how to do it ? a different way of organizing our government. But, based on our thorough review of the government?s performance, and our examination of the enemy, we recommend the following elements for a counter terrorism strategy.

This strategy must be balanced. It must integrate all the elements of national power: diplomacy, intelligence, covert action, law-enforcement, economic policy, foreign aid, homeland defense, and military strength. There is no silver bullet or decisive blow that can defeat Islamist terrorism. It will take unity of effort and sustained and effective use of every tool at our disposal:

We need to play offense: kill or capture terrorists; deny them sanctuaries; and disrupt their ability to move money and people around the globe.?

Do you believe Kosar or do you believe the bi-partisan 9/11 commission?
 

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Seems we are not safe. I listen to what they said and we are not safe. Bush keeps saying were save. Or he throws in much safer now. This report tells us what has been done so far would not stop a 12 year old kid with a good game plan. Yes airline travel we believe has been made saver. And we got this neat color thing they say tells us when to hide. Or when we can walk down the street. Thats it kids. Safe my old ass. They better listen to what this report has in it and stop there BS in DC and get started.
 
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Scott,

It's really against my better judgment to waste any more time on you and your goofy rants, but I never said there was no danger. I said that it wasn't really that much of an accomplishment to lead us to 3 terror free years, particularly after the biggest attack in history was on his watch.

I stand by my comment that you highlighted about 'alert levels.' Thet're useless.

I have no idea wtf you're talking about, being 'rebuffed'. I agree with everything that you cut and pasted from that report. STFU.
 

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Thanks for your insight, Scott4USC. Look forward to your analysis in the college football forum this year, as long as it isn't all about your Trojans. :rolleyes:
 

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kosar said:
I have no idea wtf you're talking about, being 'rebuffed'. I agree with everything that you cut and pasted from that report. STFU.
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LMAO

kick his ass sea bass
 

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Kosar

"No attacks since 9/11..."
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What you centrists fail to be able to comprehend (due to lack of swelling on the right side of your brain) is that president Bush is responsible for 'no attacks since 9/11' the same way Ronald Reagan is responsible for no alien attacks on earth since his 'star wars' program was initiated.

You centrists resisted Ronald Reagans 'star wars' program insisting the billions upon billions spent was just a waste of taxpayers dollars. Money that could have been foolishly used to shore up our intrastructure and borders was instead used to protect us against any al-queda space raiders.

You centrists insisted the monies were just being funded to Republican connected defense contractors and cronies that had lobbied and contributed to the Republican party, and ultimately left us 2.5 TRILLION dollars in debt when Reagan left office, much like Bush is doing now with this war.

But you centrists got egg all over your face now that we've not been attacked by Captain Zoom Zoom from the planet Neptune since the 'star wars' initiative. We've also successfully avoided any invasion by the Borg as our 'star wars' defense must have some cloaking device. These are facts Mr. Centrist. Dispute them all your want, but once again I've conquered you in the forum in the name of all that is holy, for all the world to see. RESISTANCE IS FUTILE
 
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Oh yeah? Well... Clinton got a blowjob from an intern when he was in office, so take that!
 

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Auspice LOL great read and you are right what a waist. But now were save.
 

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Are we currently at the orange, maroon, brick red, orange-red, or tangerine alert level?
 
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Is a "centrist" the same as a "moderate". Ya know that moderates are considered very bad now, at least in Georgia by Repubs. :rolleyes:
 

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Kosar

"Auspice-lol, funny stuff..."
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It may be 'funny stuff' but it's really just the second verse of the same song. Huge debt squandered to the military industrial complex, heightened by fear. Remember how Reagan created a 'fear' by citing no defense against Soviet missles? He created this fear among the American people and justified the incredible expenses of the 'star wars' program.

GWB is doing the same thing. He's using 'fear' as the lightning rod to divert monies to his cronies and contributors in the military industrial complex. I posted an article the other day about 'why america is an easy target' and it stated how little has been done since 9/11 on our borders. If this 'fear' was anything as advertised by this administration, don't you think we'd at least address these problems? It's a joke the way we've proceeded since 9/11 both domestically and internationally but....RESISTANCE IS FUKING FUTILE
 
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Remember a while back I confessed to 'looking' for you because you hadn't been posting lately? Well, it went a little further than that I'm afraid. Keeping in mind your importance to the forum, I also fired out a tax return with your name on it to sort of 'flush you out', so you might want to keep a heads up on that one.

And if you're wondering why you keep getting legal documents demanding you take paternity tests, well...that would be us here in the forum again. And for God's sake, if anyone from the 'free clinic' shows up, run for your life! They've got you labeled as a 'disection candidate' because of your STD's that eat through porecelin. Anyways, have a good day and enjoy the convention this next week.
 

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What you fail to mention in this fairy tail Is that defense spending stopped the cold war in in tracks. One of the greatest achievements of all time.
Would rather my tax dollar went for defense then entitlement programs.Which makes you feel safer?

It appears after 911 report Kerry is now gung ho on building up defence and intelligence--Wonder what made him change his mind (flip flop) when he voted to cut it after 1st World Trade attack??
Any answers??

Now if you want to earn----
"These are facts Mr. Centrist. Dispute them all your want, but once again I've conquered you in the forum in the name of all that is holy, for all the world to see. RESISTANCE IS FUTILE"

Answer one simple question you have failed to answer for the umpteenth time.

Which side is totally dependent on the other and which would flourish without the other----and why???

be back in am to see if you all can conjure a rational reply--gonna hit some balls :)
 

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"What you fail to mention in this fairy tail Is that defense spending stopped the cold war in in tracks. One of the greatest achievements of all time."
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Total nonsense. Their economy was doomed from the second world war. It was just a matter of time and it just happened during the Reagan administration. Nothing more.

BTW.....Gorbachev tried to contact Reagan to start talks several times to end the 'cold war' but was rebuked. Only at the continued insistance of Margret Thatcher did Reagan even agree to have peace talks. To now claim it as an accomplishment, when he couldn't even run away from it as he tried repeatedly, seems sort of lame.
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"Would rather my tax dollar went for defense then entitlement programs.Which makes you feel safer?"
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Why don't we carry your line of reasoning to it's logical conclusion. Why invest in anything other than guns, bombs and thermal nuclear devices? Would we be a better country then? Would we be safer then? I think not.

Besides, the cost of this 'war' in Iraq could probably fund every individual entitlement program combined for the next 10 years (just a guess here BTW). If entitlement programs are your only problem, please be advised that corporate entitlements far outweigh individual entitlements in our USA budget. Do you want to get rid of the
biased owned Republican corporate entitlements as well? If not, why not?

And NO, I don't feel one bit safer after Reagan 'shot his wad' with the billions and billions on the 'star war's defense system that was a total bust. Should I? Was I more at risk from missles before he blew hundreds of billions of dollars on a 'star wars' project that didn't work than I am now? If so, why are we now currently constructing a landbased defensive radar system to shoot missles out of the air to protect our borders? It has nothing to do with Reagans 'star wars' initiative so why should I feel safer under Reagans 'star war's fiasco?

One more point: take a glance at the article I posted yesterday titled 'why america is not safe'. Our borders are no safer now then they were
pre 9/11. Our utilitity companies and chemical companies aren't any more secure than they were pre 9/11. Our transportation venues are not much safer than we were 9/11 (airplanes excluded). We've spent 500M on fastening down our borders since 9/11 by our federal government despite all the 'alerts' that they give out. 500M over almost 3 years which is the $$ equivalent of 4 days of fighting in Iraq. Seems the political mantra of Bush this year is 'are you safer', so I've got a question Dogs, would you and me and all the school kids and people that work in high rise office buildings be safer under a president that recognizes we're doing nothing at home and attempts to correct the situation, or a president that tells the state governors that they're 'on their own' in financing and administering the huge problem as Bush has done? How can anybody say Bush? And yet it's his own mantra. Are you safer? Maybe more than 9/11 but certainly not safer than if someone with a conscience for the american people was overseeing the problem
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" Answer one simple question you have failed to answer for the umpteenth time.

Which side is totally dependent on the other and which would flourish without the other----and why???"
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Who knows? It's all conjecture. Any claim could be disputed by either side. It's all fantasy.
 
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