Good post Coug LJ
Coug LJ said:
So, Scott, Norm Chow wasn't all that good, after all? For the past three or four years we have been hearing, from mostly USC fans, what a genius Norm Chow was and now we you're giving us the real story. He was really just figurehead, huh??
NO. You took my post the wrong way. Norm Chow was great OC, #1 in country. BUt the USC offense was not ALL NORM CHOW. Pete Carroll is the DC for USC and defensive minded coach. People, media, gameday announcers assume that Carroll had nothing to do with offense and let Chow control it. Giving Chow all the credit. Simply not true.
Carroll works with USC offense in practice and gameplans with both defensive coaches and offensive coaches.
He was involved with everything. Carrroll puts in 15 hour workdays during the season and leaves office at 10pm. The guy loves to work and never gets tired. Also explains why he is great recruiter. After the 1st year, Carroll and Chow along with other assistants modified Chows offense that he ran at BYU. It wasn't working at USC and Pac 10.
Chow will be missed on gamedays. Chow would run specific and conservative plays in 1h to see how the defense plays USC. Then USC would make the adjustments at halftime. USC did not want to make adjustments in 1h because they didn't want to give the opposing team a chance to adjust to USC. That is why USC
dominated opponents in 2h along with being better conditioned team. Carroll did same thing on defense. USC never showed there card in the 1h. They didn't want the opposing team to be able to make adjustments against them at halftime.
Chow will be missed on gamedays because if USC needed the right play at crucial moment, Chow new exactly how a defense would defend USC in 2h and would call a play to counter that. The new OC's learned from Chow but there will be mistakes all season long. But USC has the talent this year on offense and experience (Leianrt) to get by with the new OC's mistakes.
I, for one, had bought into the hype. I remember when USC was a bad football team. Carson Palmer was the quarterback and he was by all accounts a bust. Then Pete Carroll and Norm Chow showed up.
Palmer had more talent than Leinart. Palmer never had Mike Williams at WR, an OL that protected him or RB's. Leinart has studs surrounding him while Palmer had DUDS along with horrible coach in Hacket. Leinart is better QB because he checks off and reads defenses better but Palmer would have similar success. Palmer had to learn Chow's offense on the job and Palmer finally had superstar talent around him in his last year. That talent was nowhere near what Leinart had.
Now, everyone knows what a great coach Pete Carroll is. He is super with the media, recruits better than anyone else and is a great motivator. He is also in charge of the Defense. You are now telling us he was also the brains behind the Offense.
Carroll was very involved with the offense!
Norm Chow had a pretty good track record. He was the quarterback guru of all those great Brigham Young quarterbacks and most recently Phillip Rivers at North Carolina State. Carson Palmer, if I remember correctly, praised Norm Chow highly for his unlikely rise from bust to Heisman Trophy. ...As did Matt Leinart.
Chow is great coach and QB developer. Track record speaks for itself. Palmer was a 4-star high school recruit and Leinart was a 4-star high school recruit. So both had talent etc. More impressed with what CHow did for Leinart vs Palmer because Leinart does not have as much physical talent. Sarkisian also played roe in developing both QB's as he was the QB coach and still is!
Now USC has Booty 5-star recruit and Sanchez 5-star recruit, and Hinds 4-star recruit as backup QB's. Both Booty and Sanchez were #1 QB's in country coming out of high school and are phenoms. Most college football teams have only have one 4-star QB on there team. USC has two 5-star QB's. Basically what I am saying is USC is set at QB for LONG time.
Chow earned his money last year where USC had no returning starters on OL and WR. Quite amazing. This year it was time for Chow to move on because Carroll was tired of him interviewing for jobs while coaching at USC. Week against UCLA Chow was out interviewing and if USC beat UCLA they would be in OB. Huge distraction.
...On a side note, what's the word with USC players leaving the program? My USC sources were very high on Eric Wright. Isn't he the second projected defensive starter to leave the program in the last month? ...And what about LenDale White? You guys are loaded, but is there any concern about recent developments?
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USC losing all there big time talent.
Manual Wright who was USC's most talented DT had to leave school because of academics. USC is too high of standards academically. This means USC now lost there 3 best DT's from last year with ZERO returning starters at DT with extensive playing time. Not good! Good news is USC is hoping that the #1 Junior College DT Gabe Long will get accepted into USC and be on team in fall.
Eric Wright who was USC's #1 returning DB. He was a stud and has NFL talent. He was charged with rape, but then courts did not have evidence and charge was dropped. But they found a bag of ecstasy pills in his dorm room but Eric said they were not his. USC told him to leave and he is gone. Guy was never found guilty of anything by law but USC doesn't give 2nd chances like some schools do. USC does have some returning talent at DB so shouldn't hurt too bad.
Whitney Lewis who was #1 WR recruit out of high school 2 years ago has not played because of academics. If he passes his summer school he will be playing and signs are pointing he will. He was USC's best WR out of spring practice last year before he was ruled ineligible. Put him next to Dwane Jarret along with Steve Smith and nobody is defending USC WR's. No team's 3rd best DB can defend Whitney Lewis. USC also could put 4 WR's at once with freshman Patric Turner who is 6.6 and a Mike Williams clone. He was #1 high school WR in country last year and Mike Williams says this kid will be better than he was at USC.
Lendale White and Dominic Byrd both sat out spring practice to focus on academics and both will be playing in fall. No trouble with either player.
Byrd IMO is best TE in country and White is a top 3 RB in country.
