A DAMN GOOD REASON WE INVADED IRAQ

[Eddie Haskell]

TerryRay:

I couldn't agree more. Your post was one of the most cogent, coherent, direct responses I've ever read on this board. Then again, I just finished my 19th Labatt.

Eddie

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Actually, Mr. C., if my boys don't cover tonight I may move to your town and begin ranting on Mr. Howard (I think?).

Eddie

 

[PRO190]

Again....why did Kerry say "knowing what we know now I would have taken the same path"?
WOW: Knowing Yamamoto was going to light up the Pacific Fleet I Would have taken the same path................................
You DO NOT KNOW SHIT!

 

[MrChristo]

Actually, Mr. C., if my boys don't cover tonight I may move to your town and begin ranting on Mr. Howard (I think?).

Eddie

haha!! Nice work Ed.

I'm guessing you're the only non-Australian on this board who would actually know who our PM is!! (And that's not a shot at everyone else!!....He just seems to be very obscure on the world stage.)

 

[MrChristo]

Anyone know how I post a picture from my HDD?
(Sorry...technologically challenged apparently!!)

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

Aupice "26 of those non-action deaths are suicides (man that's depressing isn't it?)

The suicide rate in U.S. is about 12 per 100,000 which is about right in line with those in Iraq---and who do you think is resposible for the suicides,the people committing them or GW.
Somehow I conclude they alone bear the responsibilty.
http://www.cdc.gov/epo/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00049117.htm

Edward On your question
"
Wayne:

I'd like to make this comment and frankly, I think you might even agree with it. We don't know what Kerry will do as president. We can surmise based on his past congressional record but we really don't know what he will do once in office"

My answer on that one is easy.I look at some of the most liberal areas in U.S.--- New York,CA and Wash DC. and I conclude that the same would happen to all of the U.S. with these jokers in charge.

Economically you have----
"However, many states ? including Alaska, California, Illinois, Louisiana, Nebraska, New Jersey, and New York ? have faced potentially large budget shortfalls for fiscal year 2005. In 30 states where shortfalls have been identified, the amounts have reached levels of $35 billion to $40 billion, or about 7 percent to 8 percent of those states? expenditures. As a result, most states expect cuts in spending, revenue increases, new borrowing, and/or reserve-fund transfers to continue in fiscal year 2005."
per http://www.cbpp.org/10-22-03sfp4.htm

Morally these areas are leaders in crime-THE leading 3 areas in aids-and ACLU strongholds via liberal judges who want to make this a politically correct country--where they consider child porno a freedom of speach-trump gays over boyscouts--want to stop prayer in schools but permit four letter words on airways and I could go on---

Then the issue of secruity---Its no secret the 3 major areas that terrorist target is CA NY and DC and you can throw in New Jersy.
Your advocates of anti racial profiling of muslims make this area a haven--- and which areas do these liberal protestors in U.S. flock to promoting their politcally correctness--ya you got it CA NY and DC.

So considering the above I can find myself voting for a conservative are moerate democrat with no problems but not a liberal and definately not a leading liberal who hangs with Kennedy.

 

[Chanman]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/...o1902.xml&secureRefresh=true&_requestid=14035

 

[RAYMOND]

The Kerry Line: John Kerry's Eight Positions On The War In Iraq

"John Kerry has taken at least eight positions on the Iraq War, and there are still seven weeks left in the campaign. The American people want a principled, decisive president and voters are not going to trust the War on Terror to a candidate who plays politics with every issue."

- Steve Schmidt, Bush-Cheney '04 Spokesman


John Kerry Has Taken At Least Eight Positions On The War In Iraq

1. October 2002: Kerry Voted For Use Of Force Resolution Against Iraq. (H. J. Res. 114, CQ Vote #237: Passed 77-23: R 48-1; D 29-21; I 0-1, 10/11/02, Kerry Voted Yea)
2. April 2003: Kerry Promised Not To Attack President When War Began, But Weeks Later, With Troops Just Miles From Baghdad, Kerry Broke His Pledge And Called For "Regime Change In The United States." (Glen Johnson, "Democrats On The Stump Plot Their War Rhetoric," The Boston Globe, 3/11/03; Glen Johnson, "Kerry Says Us Needs Its Own 'Regime Change,'" The Boston Globe, 4/3/03)
3. May 2003: In First Dem Debate, Kerry Strongly Supported President's Action In Iraq. SEN. JOHN KERRY: "I said at the time I would have preferred if we had given diplomacy a greater opportunity, but I think it was the right decision to disarm Saddam Hussein, and when the President made the decision, I supported him, and I support the fact that we did disarm him." (ABC News, Democrat Presidential Candidate Debate, Columbia, SC, 5/3/03)
4. September 2003: Kerry Said Voting Against The $87 Billion Supplemental Would Be "Irresponsible." Doyle McManus (LA Times): "If that amendment does not pass, will you then vote against the $87 billion?" Kerry: "I don't think any United States senator is going to abandon our troops and recklessly leave Iraq to ? to whatever follows as a result of simply cutting and running. That's irresponsible." (CBS's "Face the Nation," 9/14/03)
5. October 2003: Kerry Voted Against The $87 Billion Supplemental Supporting Our Troops. (S. 1689, CQ Vote #400: Passed 87-12: R 50-0; D 37-11; I 0-1, 10/17/03, Kerry Voted Nay)
6. January 2004: After Voting For War And Trailing Candidate Howard Dean In The Democrat Primaries, Kerry Says He Is Anti-War Candidate. CHRIS MATTHEWS: "Do you think you belong to that category of candidates who more or less are unhappy with this war, the way it's been fought, along with General Clark, along with Howard Dean and not necessarily in companionship politically on the issue of the war with people like Lieberman, Edwards and Gephardt? Are you one of the anti-war candidates?" KERRY: "I am -- Yes, in the sense that I don't believe the president took us to war as he should have, yes, absolutely." (MSNBC's "Hardball," 1/6/04)
7. August 2004: In Response To President's Question About How He Would Have Voted If He Knew Then What He Knows Now, Kerry Confirmed That He Would Still Have Voted For Use Of Force Resolution. SEN. JOHN KERRY: "Yes, I would have voted for the authority. I believe it's the right authority for a president to have. But I would have used that authority as I have said throughout this campaign, effectively. I would have done this very differently from the way President Bush has." (CNN's "Inside Politics," 8/9/04)
8. September 2004: Kerry: Iraq Is "The Wrong War In The Wrong Place At The Wrong Time." (Patricia Wilson, "Kerry on Iraq: Wrong War, Wrong Place, Wrong Time," Reuters, 9/6/04)

 

[CHARLESMANSON]

Wow that sure shut everybody up lol...nice job Raymond.

 

[CHARLESMANSON]

Hey Raymond read today's news. Looks like Kerry has flip-flopped once again. It was just last month that Kerry said he would have voted for the authority to use force in Iraq, and now today he said he would not have overthrown Saddam Hussein.
Priceless

 

[spibble spab]

In a way, it matters. Just like plenty of others, you pretend to give a shit about Iraqi civilians because there is nothing left in terms of justifying the invasion. Let's face it, you never cared about the Iraqis before and you really don't now either.



Really? They must be the 10% that see America in a favorable way. What I personally care more about is our troops dying for nothing and leaving the military cupboard bare. All for what?

How do you know that charles manson gives a rodent's rectum about the Iraqi civilians or the smell of his own farts or not? If he didn't care, he would just be staring at the gas pumps wearing a bush/cheney t'shirt.(He only does that on the weekends) who are you to tell ppl how they feel about anybody? if you know either, the accuracy of your picks should reflect that.lol I have a close relative stationed in Baghdad (Tenth Mountain Brigade US Army) He tells me, DONT
BELIEVE THE MEDIA on Iraqs attitude towards US occupation there:
99% of the Iraqis are glad we got rid of the weapons of mass destruction T.(Sadaam, Uday, Qusay, etc.) they thank him all goddam day! He hands out food and water to kids and they kiss at his fawking feet. They adults there kiss the soldiers on their cheeks. remember that next time you get your info from CNN. It's the one or two percent who force men to be saboteurs around the fringes or else their family gets sent to the last room nick berg was in Obviously we speak our OPINIONS here and my opinion is you are blind sir, blind to the innocents that are currently recieving assistance from myself, and countless others in the "military cupboard".
saying that Our soldiers are dying for "nothing" shows that you don't give a sh$t about the iraqi civilians. You are an Isolationist. I bet youd like to change our national
bird from The Bald Eagle to the ostrich. If any of you want to quit whining like little bitches and want to know how to help the people of Iraq
i'll give you the info. Otherwise, shut the hell up and we'll take care of Iraq. We'll take care of America. And be proud of the Men and Women that are making a difference here and abroad.
:moon: :moon: :moon: :moon: :moon:

 

[RAYMOND]

Hey Raymond read today's news. Looks like Kerry has flip-flopped once again. It was just last month that Kerry said he would have voted for the authority to use force in Iraq, and now today he said he would not have overthrown Saddam Hussein.
Priceless

kerry is a joke ,
:142lmao:

 

[Chanman]

Ranger's experience nothing like on TV

Ranger's experience nothing like on TV

Ranger's experience nothing like on TV

September 20, 2004

BY MARY LANEY
What was it like? Iraq looks a lot different than poolside behind a Winnetka home. It's worlds away from the mountains of Afghanistan. But Eric Leahy could tell me about what it was like in those faraway countries. Leahy's an Army Ranger from the 3rd Ranger Battalion, 75th Ranger Regiment -- the first unit to parachute into Afghanistan and Iraq with just their wits and a hundred pounds of equipment on their backs. He has recently returned from four tours of duty: two in Afghanistan and two in Iraq.

He's visiting old high school friends and readjusting to life in mufti. That's how he came to be sitting -- in a T-shirt and jeans -- beside a friend's swimming pool in Winnetka, and how I came to be talking with him.

When I asked him what it had been like, he didn't talk about the heroics he and his fellow Rangers had been through, didn't brag about the medals he's won. He simply said, ''We're doing a lot of good.'' When I asked if he had been in firefights, he answered my naive question with a simple, ''I've been shot at.''

Leahy's only 23 but has a presence and maturity rare at his age. And his presence is daunting. He stands 6 feet tall with blond hair, blue eyes and a physique that one would call ''buff.'' He even appears to have muscles in his forehead. But it's his clarity and self-confidence that stand out. When he stands, he stands tall. When he walks, it's a walk of someone who now knows who he is.

''I was a 19-year-old kid with no direction. In basic training, I began to realize how hard these people work, how long and difficult this country's history has been. I had taken for granted all the freedoms I enjoyed and I felt proud to be a part of something so important and yet received so little recognition, at least before 9/11.''

It has been an adjustment for Leahy returning home, especially when he watches television news.

''What they're reporting has nothing in common with what I saw over there. Nothing. People back here think Iraqis and Afghanis are at war with Americans. It's just not true. The terrorists are killing Afghanis and Iraqis. For every American who's died, they've killed 25 of their own. They're killing their own people, not just American soldiers.

''When I was over there, not everybody liked us. But people would come up and offer us the food they had to feed their family for a week, or the water they had, and village elders would talk with us. But when you come back here, it's a whole different story.''

''Peter Jennings [of ABC News] was giving a live report in Baghdad when he noticed a Humvee stopped in traffic went over the curb and drove away. Jennings said the soldiers must think they're above the law. It wasn't that. The Humvee had no turret, no gun; it was getting out of a possibly bad situation.''

The young Ranger shakes his head at the reports just showing fighting instead of all the good over there: the schools built and open, the hospitals operating, the water that's now running, the electricity that's been repaired after years of neglect.

Leahy says he and his fellow Rangers had children coming up to them, laughing and thanking them.

''In Baghdad, they were all little entrepreneurs selling cigarettes and DVDs.''

He says he felt good when he saw young women able to walk outside, but sad to see them hunched over after years of having to carry heavy loads and stay indoors.

There were tense times as well -- times when senses must be acute.

''One Holy Night, the Iraqis were cooking in the streets, local militia were on corners with AK-47's for miles. We didn't know if we could trust them or not as we drove through. We were turning a corner. I was watching, my weapon ready. All of a sudden an AK went off. I saw it was an accident. The man's weapon was pointed at the ground and went off. We drove on.''

I asked him how he deals with such sharpened senses since he returned home. His answer spoke volumes.

''My first week home, I was at a friend's wedding in California and still in the mind-set of paranoia, looking around a lot. I was out on the balcony overlooking an intersection and a stoplight.

"Cars were actually stopping at the light, no shots fired, no car bombs exploding, no one dragged from a car and burned by terrorists, no one fearful for their life. It made me feel good. It helped give reason for what I've done. To come back and watch a simple stoplight and see people here have lives where they don't have to fear that kind of thing. I don't think people realize just how lucky they are to live here.''

Perhaps not.

Leahy plans to enroll in college now. Once there, here's hoping he'll tell them -- tell them how lucky we all are.

Thank you, Eric Leahy, and welcome home.

 

[I LOVE WR]

ALL THIS ARGUING TELLS ME IS THAT THE UNITED STATES HAS TO CHOOSE BETWEEN 2 ABSOLUTE LOSERS.

ONE IS A LYING COWARD THAT HAS A VERY LOW IQ AND HAS A VICE PRES WHO STEALS TAX PAYERS MONEY BLATANTLY

AND THE OTHER IS AFRAID TO STICK WITH ONE STANCE BUT HAS GREAT HAIR AND MARRIED A VERY WEALTHY WOMAN.

WOW TALK ABOUT IRONIC. YOU GUYS ARE FIGHTING OVER WHO IS LESS OF A LOSER.

USA USA USA USA

AMERICA THE GREAT. OH MY STOMACH-BWA HA HA HA HA HA. OH CRAP I PISSED MY PANTS. AH WELL-WHERE ARE MY DEPENDS.

I CANT WAIT 20 YRS FROM NOW THE US WILL ELECT BRITNEY SPEARS PRESIDENT OF THE USA.

WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON IN AMERICA. ARE YOU GUYS SUICIDAL OR SOMETHING.

CANT YOU ELECT INTELLIGENT MEN/WOMEN TO YOUR GOVERNMENT. JUST LOOK AT THE KENNEDYS, WHAT A LAUGHABLE FAMILY THAT IS. YOU WOULD THINK YOU GUYS WOULD HAVE LEARNT FROM BUSH SR NOT TO EVER VOTE ANOTHER BUSH IN. MORONS :142lmao:

 

[CHARLESMANSON]

It sure is easy to sit there and talk shit when nobody gives a rat's ass about your pussy country in the first place. By the grammar and tone of your email it sounds like you are no older than about 13 anyways.

Reminds me of the Yankees...everyone hates them because they are at the top of the food chain.

You calling Americans unintelligent and you use the word "LEARNT"?...oh man that's classic. Way to make yourself look bad.

Typical Canadian. You're just jealous because you live in a country where the weather sucks, people speak French, and the women are more masculine then the men are. Who is your leader anyways??? I don't even think anyone knows or cares. Prob some sissy French pussy.

Sad but true but if your sissy-ass country was invaded or attacked by terrorists you know who would be there to save your asses? That's right, the mighty United States. You're lucky we allow you guys to sponge off us in the first place. If we wanted to we could probably wipe out your military in about 10 minutes. We would OWN you.

Thank god you aren't an American. We don't need anymore liberal pussies than we already have here. Canada is the perfect place for people like you so do us all a favor and stay up there, sit back, and let the big boys take care of things when it comes to fighting terror.
Nice military you guys have. You can insult the US all you want because at the end of the day you are still a Canadian.

 

[Chanman]

USA USA USA USA
AMERICA THE GREAT. OH MY STOMACH-BWA HA HA HA HA HA. OH CRAP I PISSED MY PANTS. AH WELL-WHERE ARE MY DEPENDS.

http://www.tampabaylightning.com/

 

[I LOVE WR]

I EXPECTED MORE FROM YOU. THAT WAS VERY LAME. ARE YOU A BROAD OR A GAY I MEAN GUY.

I LOVE DENIAL.

USA USA USA,OH OH I NEED MY DEPENDS AGAIN. NO CONTEST.

I DIDNT INSULT THE US. I INSULTED YOU MORON. YOU ARE THE ONES FIGHTING OVER LEADERS. BOTH SIDES ARE INSULTING THE OTHER. BUT YOU ARE OBVIOUSLY AS DUMB AS YOU APPEAR.

YOU LOSE ONCE AGAIN PUTZ

 

[I LOVE WR]

CHANMAN 2 WORDS- TEAM CANADA.

WE OWNED U ONCE AGAIN. YOU GUYS LOST TO THE PATHETIC FINNS ALSO.

WE HAVE NEVER LOST TO THE US EXCEPT WHEN THE PAID OFF REFS GAVE YOU THE ONE WORLD CUP.

WE OWN YOU LOL. 90% OF THE TAMPA TEAM IS CANADIAN ALSO. GOOD TRY THOUGH. NO HOCKEY THIS YEAR THOUGH

 

[CHARLESMANSON]

Thats the best you got?? lol

You didn't insult the United States??? Scroll up and reread your post. I had a feeling you'd start back-pedalling. What a PUSSY!

I lose?? Wait, aren't you the one who lives in Canada?

Instead of calling me names and saying that "you won", why don't you confront my post with some logic? Are you capable of that?
How was my post lame???? Enlighten me. My post was RIGHT ON and you know it.

You can say my post was lame if you want. It really doesn't matter. My post was the truth and you just don't have anything intelligent to say to counter it.

 

[I LOVE WR]

QUOTE FROM MANSON-You calling Americans unintelligent and you use the word "LEARNT"?...oh man that's classic. Way to make yourself look bad.


MANSON YOU REALLY ARE A FOOL. DOESNT SURPRISE ME YOU DIDNT THINK IT WAS A WORD. NOW GO EDIT YOUR POST SO YOU DONT LOOK LIKE THE FOOL YOU ARE.

learn ( P ) Pronunciation Key (l?rn)
v. learned, also learnt (l?rnt) learn?ing, learns
v. tr.
To gain knowledge, comprehension, or mastery of through experience or study.
To fix in the mind or memory; memorize: learned the speech in a few hours.

To acquire experience of or an ability or a skill in: learn tolerance; learned how to whistle.
To become aware: learned that it was best not to argue.
To become informed of; find out. See Synonyms at discover.
Nonstandard. To cause to acquire knowledge; teach.
Obsolete. To give information to.

v. intr.
To gain knowledge, information, comprehension, or skill: learns quickly; learned about computers; learned of the job through friends.


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[Middle English lernen, from Old English leornian. See leis-1 in Indo-European Roots.]
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learna?ble adj.
learner n.

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learnt ( P ) Pronunciation Key (l?rnt)
v.
A past tense and a past participle of learn.

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LEARNT

Learn \Learn\, v. t. [imp. & p. p. Learned, or Learnt (?); p. pr. & vb. n. Learning.] [OE. lernen, leornen, AS. leornian; akin to OS. lin[=o]n, for lirn[=o]n, OHG. lirn[=e]n, lern[=e]n, G. lernen, fr. the root of AS. l?ran to teach, OS. l[=e]rian, OHG. l[=e]ran, G. lehren, Goth. laisjan, also Goth lais I know, leis acquainted (in comp.); all prob. from a root meaning, to go, go over, and hence, to learn; cf. AS. leoran to go . Cf. Last a mold of the foot, lore.] 1. To gain knowledge or information of; to ascertain by inquiry, study, or investigation; to receive instruction concerning; to fix in the mind; to acquire understanding of, or skill; as, to learn the way; to learn a lesson; to learn dancing; to learn to skate; to learn the violin; to learn the truth about something. ``Learn to do well.'' --Is. i. 17.

Now learn a parable of the fig tree. --Matt. xxiv. 32.

2. To communicate knowledge to; to teach. [Obs.]

Hast thou not learned me how To make perfumes ? --Shak.

Note: Learn formerly had also the sense of teach, in accordance with the analogy of the French and other languages, and hence we find it with this sense in Shakespeare, Spenser, and other old writers. This usage has now passed away. To learn is to receive instruction, and to teach is to give instruction. He who is taught learns, not he who teaches.


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