agent, posting a video of a building collapse doesn't answer this question. How did it fall? What caused it? You tell me HOW it fell, then I'll respond to that.
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agent, posting a video of a building collapse doesn't answer this question. How did it fall? What caused it? You tell me HOW it fell, then I'll respond to that.
Dumb and a bully - one of those double-threat guys!
The correct term is tack.
The sad part is, you've looked both words up and still don't understand the difference.
I'm glad we've got guys like you defending our country, altho I'm starting to see why we lose all these wars.
The correct term is tack.
The sad part is, you've looked both words up and still don't understand the difference.
I'm glad we've got guys like you defending our country, altho I'm starting to see why we lose all these wars.
ummm wildest info ever--marines are FOD
ummm wildest info ever--marines are FOD
Kay Griggs - Sleeping With The Enemy
Kay Griggs, Former Marine Colonel's Wife, Talks Again About Military Assassin Squads, Drug Running, Illegal Weapon Deals And Sexual Perversion Deep Within The Highest Levels Of U.S. Military And Government
2005 07 26
By Greg Szymanski | arcticbeacon.com
For 11 long years, Kay Griggs heard all the messy details from her military husband, usually while he was drinking before going into one of his drunken stupors. First going public in 1998 in an eight hour video interview with a truth-seeking Michigan pastor and FM radio broadcaster, she now is back after 9/11 to warn Americans to beware of the evil lurking within the highest levels of government, bound and determined to destroy America. July 25, 2005
Katharine ?Kay? Griggs knows what it?s like to have a gun pointed in her face. She knows what it?s like to have her face slapped, her bones broken and her nose bloodied by her former bully of a husband, an active Marine Colonel and a man who she claims is ?above the law and literally gets away with murder.?
Virginia court documents and photos of her battered arms and legs tell the sad and brutal physical story of her failed marriage, a tumultuous 11 year roller coaster ride ending in 1999.
But the real story for public consumption isn?t the private divorce court details. It is the secret military information about drug running, weapon sales, sexual perversion and assassination squads she learned firsthand from her husband, U.S. Marine Corps Col. George Raymond Griggs, now remarried and living in Mirror Lake, NH.
This isn?t the first time Griggs is going public with her story about government mob-like hit squads and the sexually perverted secret ?cap and gown and skull and bone society? her husband belonged to along with other high-ranking Marine officers and pubic officials.
She first went public in 1996 after receiving death threats, being rescued by Sarah McClendon, former senior member of the White House press corps, who believed her story and took Griggs under her wing, giving her a place to stay and important advice about how to stay alive when dealing with military operatives.
?I became a whistle blower and received death threats,? said Griggs this week in an extended telephone conversation from her Tidewater, VA. home. ?I finally wound up living for safety reasons with Sarah, the dean of the White House Press Corps, who had been with every president since FDR and was in Army intelligence and also an attorney's daughter from Texas.?
Advised by McClendon to go public without being able to get the mainstream media to listen, she traveled to Adrian, MI on the advice of a friend to do a long extended taped interview with Pastor Rick Strawcutter, a preacher and owner of a 500 watt pirate FM station at 99.3 on the dial in Lenawee County.
Strawcutter, who believed in free speech radio and empowering the public with the truth, produced two extended interviews finally released in 2000, one being a two hour version called ?Sleeping With The Enemy? and the other an unedited eight hour version available at www.kaygriggstalks.com.
Since then Griggs said she went back to her Virginia home, tried to piece her life together and essentially talked to private groups or anybody who would take the time to listen.
Now this week Griggs decided to tell her story again, saying ?I will keep repeating it to anyone? and adding after 9/11, the war in Iraq, the London bombings and the fear of terrorism, the ?American people are at a point were they are ready and willing to hear the truth.?
Although they may be shocked, Griggs said the ?truth will set you free,? even if it means facing up to the highest form of corruption, including sexual perversion and government sponsored mob-like hits orchestrated by high-ranking military and government officials.
?My former husband George, who is a trained assassin, calls the people he is involved with the members of The Firm or The Brotherhood. If you are in the click, you are above the law and literally can get away with murder. For years, mostly when he was drinking, he told me how he and others in this elite military group would kill people,? said Griggs, as she mentioned name after high-powered name and story after-detailed story about sexual pervasion, murder, military hit squads, brainwashing and mind control, all activities sanctioned, participated in and condoned by a group of military and political elite.
?There were many other things and people he told me about which were startling, things I?ll tell you later. But George is like a robot, glazed eyes and all. While he drinks, he sort of comes alive. It is hard to explain unless you actually see him. He told me he was the No. 1 shooter for a long time for a group of powerful people at the top. If a guy is too honest, for example, they get rid of him.?
When asked how large an inside group it was and how she survived after going public with such damning information about so many high powered names, she added:
?I just keep myself and my story in the public eye. I am a descent, honest person who believes in telling the truth. I have a deep, abiding faith and trust in God. I also come from a strong-minded, strong-willed family and I am not afraid of generals and admirals.
?As far as the sheer numbers of people involved in this cap and gown, skull and bones secret society, it?s hard to say. But it is based on old friendships, college and prep school relationships, covering up secrets and sexual perversion.
?My husband told me about all the sexually perverted rituals, like anal and oral sex in coffins at drunken parties and running naked in the woods at Bohemian Grove. Then there was the last time I saw George was in 2001 and he was telling me to keep quiet, but I think he knows I will never stop telling the truth.?
During numerous drinking binges over many years, one of the main things that sticks out in Griggs? mind was how easily her husband rationalized killing small number of innocent people and how he was able to somehow justify the killings if it accomplished a strategic goal for the elite group involved.
?Who are these people?? Griggs repeated after being asked the same direct question. ?In general, they are first generation German sons, mostly who run things in the military through tight friendships made in Europe and at war colleges. Psyops is a controlling group and Paul Wolfowitz is a major player, as are the many Zionists on this side of the Atlantic.
?Truth is light. And these guys are anxious to collect the global power now in the few hands of their Freemasonic ( French Macons ) brotherhood's elite hands. It is a very, very small group and a rather homogenized group of global top down existentialist Zionists and socialists. In short Nazi?s who came to the U.S. when Hitler, their boy, turned on them in 1933.
Griggs said other recognizable names and major players she learned from her husband?s arrogant ramblings besides Wolfowitz and other nondescript military and civilian names, involved in what she called a Zionist global takeover, included Donald Rumsfeld, George H. Bush, Dick Cheney, Henry Kissinger and Andy Fine, to name a few.
?After what I learned from George about ?Rummy,? as he called him and idolized him and the others, is that they all operate from this secret little, sick society and are all basically cowards and bullies. And I don?t believe I should ever keep quiet about who they are because the only way we are going to change there behavior is to shed light on what they are doing and show how ludicrous , sick and inept their behavior really is.
?My husband George just idolized ?Rummy? and thinks he is just wonderful when basically he is nothing more than an in the closet-Nazi. Also, George liked to brag how he and Wolfowitz were down in Indonesia in the 1970s, down there training young assassins.
?After what I heard all those years and now putting it into prospective after 9/11, I think they are trying to destroy America. Their whole game is all about war, selling weapons and creating a militaristic society. I know first hand from listening to my husband, they will do anything ? I mean anything including murder ? to get what they want.?
Although Griggs said her husband never mentioned anything specific about 9/11 during their marriage, she claims he hinted several times that ?war-gaming and airplane crashes? were necessary elements to control and manipulate the American population.
Putting many of her husband?s comments together with other acquaintances made through him, she had this to say about 9/11:
?Before 9/11, there were some things which let me know that it was involved with war gaming going on at ACT Commands center in Suffolk. War games and diversions and manipulations of American public opinion he said are "necessary.? George explained some examples such as airplane "crashes" and the bombing by the Israeli Lebanese Bekka valley recruits who blew up the Marine Corps barracks. I believe my husband knew ahead of time 9/11 was going to occur.
?I know that there was a war game going on via Tampa, I think it was called Bright Star, which was being run on 9/11 by a weird and insecure USMC General who was in charge while the Army head was conveniently away in the Near East.
?I am sure 9-11 was a joint and combined military operation, using boys who were recruited via A.Q. Khan's Israeli network in Pakistan and South Africa through Zionists in Hamburg. I believe that certain MI6 British Zionists with the Ian Goodwin-Peter Goodwin-Basil Cardinal Hume Yorkshire network were also involved in funding and recruiting these guys. It was a large and ongoing operation to set up and involved lots of CIA Zionists and lots of funny money.?
this is kay griggs in 20 minute exerpt ... im not making this shit up, theres a 3 plus hour video too on google ...
http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...=66&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=2
ummm wildest info ever--marines are FOD
Kay Griggs - Sleeping With The Enemy
Kay Griggs, Former Marine Colonel's Wife, Talks Again About Military Assassin Squads, Drug Running, Illegal Weapon Deals And Sexual Perversion Deep Within The Highest Levels Of U.S. Military And Government
2005 07 26
By Greg Szymanski | arcticbeacon.com
For 11 long years, Kay Griggs heard all the messy details from her military husband, usually while he was drinking before going into one of his drunken stupors. First going public in 1998 in an eight hour video interview with a truth-seeking Michigan pastor and FM radio broadcaster, she now is back after 9/11 to warn Americans to beware of the evil lurking within the highest levels of government, bound and determined to destroy America. July 25, 2005
Katharine ?Kay? Griggs knows what it?s like to have a gun pointed in her face. She knows what it?s like to have her face slapped, her bones broken and her nose bloodied by her former bully of a husband, an active Marine Colonel and a man who she claims is ?above the law and literally gets away with murder.?
Virginia court documents and photos of her battered arms and legs tell the sad and brutal physical story of her failed marriage, a tumultuous 11 year roller coaster ride ending in 1999.
But the real story for public consumption isn?t the private divorce court details. It is the secret military information about drug running, weapon sales, sexual perversion and assassination squads she learned firsthand from her husband, U.S. Marine Corps Col. George Raymond Griggs, now remarried and living in Mirror Lake, NH.
This isn?t the first time Griggs is going public with her story about government mob-like hit squads and the sexually perverted secret ?cap and gown and skull and bone society? her husband belonged to along with other high-ranking Marine officers and pubic officials.
She first went public in 1996 after receiving death threats, being rescued by Sarah McClendon, former senior member of the White House press corps, who believed her story and took Griggs under her wing, giving her a place to stay and important advice about how to stay alive when dealing with military operatives.
?I became a whistle blower and received death threats,? said Griggs this week in an extended telephone conversation from her Tidewater, VA. home. ?I finally wound up living for safety reasons with Sarah, the dean of the White House Press Corps, who had been with every president since FDR and was in Army intelligence and also an attorney's daughter from Texas.?
Advised by McClendon to go public without being able to get the mainstream media to listen, she traveled to Adrian, MI on the advice of a friend to do a long extended taped interview with Pastor Rick Strawcutter, a preacher and owner of a 500 watt pirate FM station at 99.3 on the dial in Lenawee County.
Strawcutter, who believed in free speech radio and empowering the public with the truth, produced two extended interviews finally released in 2000, one being a two hour version called ?Sleeping With The Enemy? and the other an unedited eight hour version available at www.kaygriggstalks.com.
Since then Griggs said she went back to her Virginia home, tried to piece her life together and essentially talked to private groups or anybody who would take the time to listen.
Now this week Griggs decided to tell her story again, saying ?I will keep repeating it to anyone? and adding after 9/11, the war in Iraq, the London bombings and the fear of terrorism, the ?American people are at a point were they are ready and willing to hear the truth.?
Although they may be shocked, Griggs said the ?truth will set you free,? even if it means facing up to the highest form of corruption, including sexual perversion and government sponsored mob-like hits orchestrated by high-ranking military and government officials.
?My former husband George, who is a trained assassin, calls the people he is involved with the members of The Firm or The Brotherhood. If you are in the click, you are above the law and literally can get away with murder. For years, mostly when he was drinking, he told me how he and others in this elite military group would kill people,? said Griggs, as she mentioned name after high-powered name and story after-detailed story about sexual pervasion, murder, military hit squads, brainwashing and mind control, all activities sanctioned, participated in and condoned by a group of military and political elite.
?There were many other things and people he told me about which were startling, things I?ll tell you later. But George is like a robot, glazed eyes and all. While he drinks, he sort of comes alive. It is hard to explain unless you actually see him. He told me he was the No. 1 shooter for a long time for a group of powerful people at the top. If a guy is too honest, for example, they get rid of him.?
When asked how large an inside group it was and how she survived after going public with such damning information about so many high powered names, she added:
?I just keep myself and my story in the public eye. I am a descent, honest person who believes in telling the truth. I have a deep, abiding faith and trust in God. I also come from a strong-minded, strong-willed family and I am not afraid of generals and admirals.
?As far as the sheer numbers of people involved in this cap and gown, skull and bones secret society, it?s hard to say. But it is based on old friendships, college and prep school relationships, covering up secrets and sexual perversion.
?My husband told me about all the sexually perverted rituals, like anal and oral sex in coffins at drunken parties and running naked in the woods at Bohemian Grove. Then there was the last time I saw George was in 2001 and he was telling me to keep quiet, but I think he knows I will never stop telling the truth.?
During numerous drinking binges over many years, one of the main things that sticks out in Griggs? mind was how easily her husband rationalized killing small number of innocent people and how he was able to somehow justify the killings if it accomplished a strategic goal for the elite group involved.
?Who are these people?? Griggs repeated after being asked the same direct question. ?In general, they are first generation German sons, mostly who run things in the military through tight friendships made in Europe and at war colleges. Psyops is a controlling group and Paul Wolfowitz is a major player, as are the many Zionists on this side of the Atlantic.
?Truth is light. And these guys are anxious to collect the global power now in the few hands of their Freemasonic ( French Macons ) brotherhood's elite hands. It is a very, very small group and a rather homogenized group of global top down existentialist Zionists and socialists. In short Nazi?s who came to the U.S. when Hitler, their boy, turned on them in 1933.
Griggs said other recognizable names and major players she learned from her husband?s arrogant ramblings besides Wolfowitz and other nondescript military and civilian names, involved in what she called a Zionist global takeover, included Donald Rumsfeld, George H. Bush, Dick Cheney, Henry Kissinger and Andy Fine, to name a few.
?After what I learned from George about ?Rummy,? as he called him and idolized him and the others, is that they all operate from this secret little, sick society and are all basically cowards and bullies. And I don?t believe I should ever keep quiet about who they are because the only way we are going to change there behavior is to shed light on what they are doing and show how ludicrous , sick and inept their behavior really is.
?My husband George just idolized ?Rummy? and thinks he is just wonderful when basically he is nothing more than an in the closet-Nazi. Also, George liked to brag how he and Wolfowitz were down in Indonesia in the 1970s, down there training young assassins.
?After what I heard all those years and now putting it into prospective after 9/11, I think they are trying to destroy America. Their whole game is all about war, selling weapons and creating a militaristic society. I know first hand from listening to my husband, they will do anything ? I mean anything including murder ? to get what they want.?
Although Griggs said her husband never mentioned anything specific about 9/11 during their marriage, she claims he hinted several times that ?war-gaming and airplane crashes? were necessary elements to control and manipulate the American population.
Putting many of her husband?s comments together with other acquaintances made through him, she had this to say about 9/11:
?Before 9/11, there were some things which let me know that it was involved with war gaming going on at ACT Commands center in Suffolk. War games and diversions and manipulations of American public opinion he said are "necessary.? George explained some examples such as airplane "crashes" and the bombing by the Israeli Lebanese Bekka valley recruits who blew up the Marine Corps barracks. I believe my husband knew ahead of time 9/11 was going to occur.
?I know that there was a war game going on via Tampa, I think it was called Bright Star, which was being run on 9/11 by a weird and insecure USMC General who was in charge while the Army head was conveniently away in the Near East.
?I am sure 9-11 was a joint and combined military operation, using boys who were recruited via A.Q. Khan's Israeli network in Pakistan and South Africa through Zionists in Hamburg. I believe that certain MI6 British Zionists with the Ian Goodwin-Peter Goodwin-Basil Cardinal Hume Yorkshire network were also involved in funding and recruiting these guys. It was a large and ongoing operation to set up and involved lots of CIA Zionists and lots of funny money.?
this is kay griggs in 20 minute exerpt ... im not making this shit up, theres a 3 plus hour video too on google ...
http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...=66&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=2
What kind of ridiculous reply is that? The fukcing Government story, which I happen to not buy, says that WTC7 fell due to fire. I disagree with that. You are backing up the Gov't story. Right?
Now you want me to give my theory so you can reply to that? lol! You guys can't even argue right....
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Ha. I asked a simple question, and will ask it for a third time.
DO YOU GUYS THINK THIS BUILDING (WTC7) FELL DOWN DUE TO FIRE?
YES OR NO!
His answer was: You tell me HOW it fell, then I'll respond to that.
Yours was: I'm out of here.
:shrug:
This building was brought down by controlled demolitions. No ifs, ands, or buts about it.
Fire cannot cause a steel framed building to fall like that. I'm not an engineer, but I'm not a brain dead idiot either. Somewhere in between. Hey man, it would be awesome if you could change my mind on all this. Believe it or not, I WANT to be wrong. But you would have a mountain of things to overturn.
:0corn
well well well
well well well
permit me to connect the dots thanks to my pal, agent ...
seems marine is running for the hills after the video link by kay griggs about the militaries, esp. the marines, fetish for anal penetration .... kay has her masters in history and tho i dont know a ton about her, shes seems very rationale and i havent found 'liar' comments to her claims about the military secrets she has learned through the years and from her husband's, who abandonned her, diary
agent was sagacious enough to recall a post i had no idea existed ... a certain post about Marine wondering if he should let his wife utilize a backdoor cut under the condition he got first bats, something along those lines in a censored recap ...
elementary, my dear watson :mj07:
well well well
permit me to connect the dots thanks to my pal, agent ...
seems marine is running for the hills after the video link by kay griggs about the militaries, esp. the marines, fetish for anal penetration .... kay has her masters in history and tho i dont know a ton about her, shes seems very rationale and i havent found 'liar' comments to her claims about the military secrets she has learned through the years and from her husband's, who abandonned her, diary
agent was sagacious enough to recall a post i had no idea existed ... a certain post about Marine wondering if he should let his wife utilize a backdoor cut under the condition he got first bats, something along those lines in a censored recap ...
elementary, my dear watson :mj07:
andy russo speaks the truth
andy russo speaks the truth
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1263677258215075609&hl=en-GB
watch his freedom to fascism video too, one of best
andy russo speaks the truth
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1263677258215075609&hl=en-GB
watch his freedom to fascism video too, one of best
stolen elections
stolen elections
watch how bush and his cronies steal their victories ... its all connected guys, liars, killers, frauds, evil men
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3555094491715905699&q=election hack
stolen elections
watch how bush and his cronies steal their victories ... its all connected guys, liars, killers, frauds, evil men
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3555094491715905699&q=election hack
duplicating 9-11 tactics in london bombings
duplicating 9-11 tactics in london bombings
i havent had much time to check into other things , concentrating on 9-11 ... but this is just appalling, tony blair's mimicking the 9-11 cover up rabitt hole for the 7/7 2005 bombings ...
list of clone terror tactics
1. they found the same 'ringleaders' ID in 3 of the 4 places the bombs went off:mj07: .... ring any bells, we only found 2 outta 4
2. the faked al qaeda confession released hours later out of texas :scared
3. or my personal fave, the simulated exercises taking place that morning in london mirroring the exact same time and exact same stations where the true :142smilie bombings occurred --lets not forget our own vigilant guardian hoax--
4. stock market speculation bonanzas related to it--hmmmm-:nono:
5. they even copied the number of fake terror attempts, 4 ....:shrug:
6. refusal to release any ctv video that would indetify the 4 bombers and easily put and end to any public questions ... pentagon and airport security cameras, give it up, its been 6 years :SIB
c'mon, guys, when will you naysayers wake up
watch this, if people tragically wouldnt have been murdered like they were here by their own government, it would laughed out by any rookie script reader as an poor ripoff
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4943675105275097719
duplicating 9-11 tactics in london bombings
i havent had much time to check into other things , concentrating on 9-11 ... but this is just appalling, tony blair's mimicking the 9-11 cover up rabitt hole for the 7/7 2005 bombings ...
list of clone terror tactics
1. they found the same 'ringleaders' ID in 3 of the 4 places the bombs went off:mj07: .... ring any bells, we only found 2 outta 4
2. the faked al qaeda confession released hours later out of texas :scared
3. or my personal fave, the simulated exercises taking place that morning in london mirroring the exact same time and exact same stations where the true :142smilie bombings occurred --lets not forget our own vigilant guardian hoax--
4. stock market speculation bonanzas related to it--hmmmm-:nono:
5. they even copied the number of fake terror attempts, 4 ....:shrug:
6. refusal to release any ctv video that would indetify the 4 bombers and easily put and end to any public questions ... pentagon and airport security cameras, give it up, its been 6 years :SIB
c'mon, guys, when will you naysayers wake up
watch this, if people tragically wouldnt have been murdered like they were here by their own government, it would laughed out by any rookie script reader as an poor ripoff
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4943675105275097719
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These two have always bothered me also. Way too similar!
But hey, it worked for us so....:shrug:
