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happy birthday!! ENjoy the stories you write/share on here.

I wrote that in a happy birthday pt1gard thread in 2006. What has happened to you, Gregg that this obsesses you so much? Why will you not answer my questions? I've looked at your videos many times. :shrug:
 

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mav, agent ... you guys are talking to infants intellectually ... i had to laugh when 6'5 asked for a motive ... and how marine cant figure out that 90% of the deaths in iraq are civillian ... they are clueless, guys, Lennies in mice and men :00hour
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More name calling. I think me marine and six are maybe too good debaters.

This is something that you cant do PT . Answer a question without resorting to a video or some article. Answer it !

Explain motive to us . Your interpretation.

Is that so hard to do ?

SixFive is not a idiot. He knows that you have avoided answering this for this entire thread.

If you would answer seriously I would not have to resort to posting crackheads in here.
 

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hey 6'5 email and you are free to phone me, id love to discuss this with you on the phone, like i said, if youd allow me to tape the convo we could play it on MJs ...

for you not to ferret out the motives after all this time is hilarious ... if you are that clueless i would love to get you voice to voice on the phone and see how a real debate would play out ... my email is this name where the lil man runs fast :00hour
 

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hey 6'5 email and you are free to phone me, id love to discuss this with you on the phone, like i said, if youd allow me to tape the convo we could play it on MJs ...

for you not to ferret out the motives after all this time is hilarious ... if you are that clueless i would love to get you voice to voice on the phone and see how a real debate would play out ... my email is this name where the lil man runs fast :00hour

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More phone call requests. This is what it boils down to . Motive. This is what pt1 , agent , and mav will not answer to . why ?

No more videos or articles posted by anyone. Just post your own words. What you believe about this 911 . Is that so hard ? or are you afraid of me, marine and sixfive. We seem to be intellectually inferior anyway. what are you afraid of ?

All the videos and questions and more questions are easy to ask. But getting down to the nitty gritty of motive is where the real answers would be. Its obvious they have no clue what the motives are.

They will not do it because it exposes their ability to debate us rationally.

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leading the challenged thru the crosswalk

leading the challenged thru the crosswalk

altho these ideas have been presented and championed by me and others many times, it seems certain langley moles cant grasp them, so with that said, i will state in project daddio gladio, the following motives for 9/11

#1 permanent war for permanent peace ... i think even the brain addled can gumshoe that concept

#2 as IKE said, beware the military industrial complex ... false flags have been the petro of every war we have fought since the late 19th century--what better way to accomplish 9/11 then to follow the PNAC charter signed by the neocons such as richard perle, william kristol, paul wolfowitz, dov zakheim, cheney and rumsfeld et al [Official story apostles, please read your leaders' manifesto, they laid it all in a 1999 letter to Prez Clinton.]

#3 to keep sheep in perpetual fear to take away their rights ... check out the fine print in the homeland security act ... your neighbor can spy on you and if he refuses to wear a wire he can be sent to prison without a get out of jail card... these and dozens of more rights are slowly being ursurped and with our false flag bluffing big brother scaring sheep into their stables the woolites gladly exchange civil liberties for the protection of murdering neocons. [check out britain, they gotta a headstart blueprint to this already]

#4 money money & coin ... lets see, the pentagon has sucked over 10 trillion out of the tax payers in last decade and has stashed over 7 trillion of that in foreign accounts ... on 9/10 Rummy admitted to 2.3 trillion dollars that have gone unaccounted for or missing in the pentagon budget. then the next day tall buildings are blown up (complete with pyroclastic clouds that sprout 200' in 1 second and turned all the concrete into dust) and within a short time the military budget increases dramatically ... sheep = fear = more $$ for Cheney and the neocons as the rockefellers and rothchilds giggle over their brandy snifters

#5 over a million have been murdered in Iraq and no one cares, that seems to be the M.O. of our bloodthirsty gov. How many of these countries that we have invaded since ww2 have become democracies? our omnivorous diet to feast on weak nations is never quenched but it does keep us ordering 3 billion dollar carriers and subs

#6 the men in power are psychopaths and care nothing about killing women and children and actually enjoy it ... i.e. why do we need DU? no one has answered that ... why do these men go to the bohemian grove and worship Satan, and why does the white house cover up their sexual perversions with children?


*** anyone who cares to add more for the flocks mulch is more than welcome ...

if they werent too lazy to type in PNAC or Tim Osman theyd begin to fit the borders of the jigsaw, but like true followers they need to be led thru crosswalks by patrol boys :00hour



alas, even tho they refuse to listen, I tried, they will come back with more off topic, diversionary name calling and pictures, or maybe 6'5 will paste something about power tools or red grange for two pages to try to ruin a thread he says he doesnt care about ... all of them duck every single simple question yet they mock exactly what they are: cowards afraid to answer direct questions or delve into the darkside of their hero's psyche ... marine least has an excuse, he was brainwashed; we all know what initiations he mustve undergone in the corps ... the picture hangers are excused for having failed to graduate kindergarten and thus being crippled by the intrinsic predilection to never using logic which allows them to avoid the possibility to learn new things bc truth is too ugly for them to fathom... this is all right, children, some of us still need a nite light to graze peacefully
 
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altho these ideas have been presented and championed by me and others many times, it seems certain langley moles cant grasp them, so with that said, i will state in project daddio gladio, the following motives for 9/11

#1 permanent war for permanent peace ... i think even the brain addled can gumshoe that concept

#2 as IKE said, beware the military industrial complex ... false flags have been the petro of every war we have fought since the late 19th century--what better way to accomplish 9/11 then to follow the PNAC charter signed by the neocons such as richard perle, william kristol, paul wolfowitz, dov zakheim, cheney and rumsfeld et al [Official story apostles, please read your leaders' manifesto, they laid it all in a 1999 letter to Prez Clinton.]

#3 to keep sheep in perpetual fear to take away their rights ... check out the fine print in the homeland security act ... your neighbor can spy on you and if he refuses to wear a wire he can be sent to prison without a get out of jail card... these and dozens of more rights are slowly being ursurped and with our false flag bluffing big brother scaring sheep into their stables the woolites gladly exchange civil liberties for the protection of murdering neocons. [check out britain, they gotta a headstart blueprint to this already]

#4 money money & coin ... lets see, the pentagon has sucked over 10 trillion out of the tax payers in last decade and has stashed over 7 trillion of that in foreign accounts ... on 9/10 Rummy admitted to 2.3 trillion dollars that have gone unaccounted for or missing in the pentagon budget. then the next day tall buildings are blown up (complete with pyroclastic clouds that sprout 200' in 1 second and turned all the concrete into dust) and within a short time the military budget increases dramatically ... sheep = fear = more $$ for Cheney and the neocons as the rockefellers and rothchilds giggle over their brandy snifters

#5 over a million have been murdered in Iraq and no one cares, that seems to be the M.O. of our bloodthirty gov. How many of these countries that we have invaded since ww2 have become democracies? our omnivorous diet to feast on weak nations is never quenched but it does keep us ordering 3 billion dollar carriers and subs

#6 the men in power are psychopaths and care nothing about killing women and children and actually enjoy it ... i.e. why do we need DU? no one has answered that ... why do these men go to the bohemian grove and worship Satan, and why does the white house cover up their sexual perversions with children?


*** anyone who cares to add more for the flocks mulch is more than welcome ...

if they werent too lazy to type in PNAC or Tim Osman theyd begin to fit the borders of the jigsaw, but like true followers they need to be led thru crosswalks by patrol boys :00hour



alas, even tho they refuse to listen, I tried, they will come back with more off topic, diversionary name calling and pictures, or maybe 6'5 will paste something about power tools or red grange for two pages to try to ruin a thread he says he doesnt care about ... all of them duck every single simple question yet they mock exactly what they are: cowards afraid to answer direct questions or delve into the darkside of their hero's psyche ... marine least has an excuse, he was brainwashed; we all know what initiations he mustve undergone in the corps ... the picture hangers are excused for having failed to graduate kindergarten and thus being crippled by the intrinsic predilection to never using logic which allows them to avoid the possibility to learn new things bc truth is too ugly for them to fathom... this is all right, children, some of us still need a nite light to graze peacefully
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ok you seem to have done it. You refrained from posting any videos or articles. It looks like these are mostly your own words.

Lets take them one by one now.

marine, sixfive ? which one would you like to tackle ?

now that we got it out on the table. well kinda.
 

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pt1gard,

I posted a somewhat similar take on the reasoning back in Nov of '06...btw the Pete Peterson mentioned was Chairman of the CFR at the time ...Fed Reserve bank Chairman of NY and founder of the Blackstone Group.......

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beertime,

Don't you think that being the "strongarm" of the international bankers isn't such a bad position to be in? Also do you think our "system" would really work if it weren't carefully controlled and manipulated? Certainly you can see that they've used the manipulation of interest rates and the PRICE of oil to keep all world markets in a pretty decent range. Think back to the market boom of the 90's....I can recall seeing PETE PETERSON himself on tv stating how we were headed for economic disaster. Many "boomers" had HUGE 401k accounts, preparing for early retirement.
9-11 wiped out TRILLIONS of dollars in value from accounts all over the world...bringing all world markets back down to a "more workable level". The subsequent runup in the PRICE of oil with the termoil in Iraq has helped keep economies from running up too fast.
I asked one of the guys at work the question the other day......Do you think the Chinese would "sacrafice" 3000 of their citizens for the sake of their "system"? He replied...SURE! I then asked how about the Russians...He said ..YES I believe they would! How about the Saudi's or Iranians I asked. He said WITHOUT A DOUBT! Then I asked ....how about the USA? He responded ...NO WAY! After mulling it over I came to the conclusion that we NEED that type of mentality from most of the population to maintain the "system".
beertime...I know you're fed up with the way you perceive the "system" to be. BUT...breaking the "stranglehold" of the moneymen and their "good cop", "bad cop" politicians WOULD BE EXTREMELY PAINFUL...and one must be carefull what you wish for...'cause you might not like what's left.

....just another point of view on this interesting topic....

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spell it out for me!! only insults and no discussion. Even your wife posted in this thread she didn't see motive. Let's hear it.

PS you wouldn't tell me in person, OMFG you are so dumb, so why do it here?

She never said she didn't know the motive. And if you think I wouldn't say that to your face you're wrong. I still love ya though man but GEEEEE ZUS!

The reasons behind it are like conspiracy theory 101 section 1 paragraph fukcing A! If you can't decipher THAT, why are you even in this thread trying to argue? It's no wonder you resorted to Barry Sanders BS. :rolleyes:

I won't sit here and spoon feed you because apparently it just oozes out your ears. But basically, our Gov't wanted that war (Iraq). They want people terrified and Bush to be the 'hero', hunting down and punishing the terrorists. This spring boarded them to the Patriot Act to strip you of most of your rights. Remember, Terror Alert: Orange! (Elevated). Maybe you forget all the BS reasons we got dragged into this war???

They count on people thinking just like you guys do. You're the reason they can pull this shit off.

Oh wait, I'm sure it was Bin Laden and crew who planned all this from some cave in Afghanistan:mj07:

And we still can't find him:142smilie
 

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Heres another pretty simple question for Marine, Six and Scott


It is physically impossible for an airliner to cause the WTC towers to collapse straight down.

QUOTE]

says who?......some chucklehead conspiracy theorist?...

you won`t believe popular mechanics but you believe some moron doing chickenwire simulations in his basement?...or rosie o`donnell?.....("fire never melted steel?")

maybe michael moore has a point....this thread could be interpreted as a pretty damning indictment of the american mental healthcare system.....`cause, if it were functional, many of these guys would surely be on some powerful antipsychotics.....

honestly,every time i check this thread out i feel like "alice" after she stepped through the looking glass...

sheesh...
 

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6-5,

I hear you bud, I mean... I equate agent to saying:
There! Don't tell me you dont see that pink elephant right over there?


I find it rather interesting and amusing watching pt1gard's tone and verbage morph throughout this thread.
Go back and read some of first posts by him... no read the latest ones. Complete night and day difference.
I bet that the guy start out as a nice clean cut guy... and by now he has a 3 foot beard and won't come out of his house.
 

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6-5,

I hear you bud, I mean... I equate agent to saying:
There! Don't tell me you dont see that pink elephant right over there?


I find it rather interesting and amusing watching pt1gard's tone and verbage morph throughout this thread.
Go back and read some of first posts by him... no read the latest ones. Complete night and day difference.
I bet that the guy start out as a nice clean cut guy... and by now he has a 3 foot beard and won't come out of his house.

6`-5",marine and scott.....

don`t say anything,but,i actually was in on the demolition of the towers......shhhhh!....

there is a vast neocon-zionist conspiracy, and i know the head jew....

our next meeting will be at my house on december 27th at 7:30......please bring a little something for the pot-luck dinner....

remember...mum`s the word..

/g.w.
 

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hey marine,

once again you and scott, 6'5 and the mindless wont address any basic questions and ask everyone else to ... please tell me exactly what all you geniuses think happened? is it the straight official story, did all 19 terrorists get on the plane ... you can dish it out but never come clean ... you are all jokes:00hour

scott, since you cant comment and need others to think for you, go ahead and email me and explain your thoughts and/or call, you guys are so sorry, you wet and froth at the mouth thinking about acually exposing your ignorance :)
 

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I won't sit here and spoon feed you because apparently it just oozes out your ears. But basically, our Gov't wanted that war (Iraq). They want people terrified and Bush to be the 'hero', hunting down and punishing the terrorists. This spring boarded them to the Patriot Act to strip you of most of your rights. Remember, Terror Alert: Orange! (Elevated). Maybe you forget all the BS reasons we got dragged into this war???


good stuff, agent, it amazes how stupid these guys truly are ... its either ignorance or they are shills, either way its tiresome, and if they hate this topic so much why do they return time and again and flash their achilles: i.e. lack of comprehension?
 

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pt1...my brother....chill out a bit...laugh a little...it`s the holiday....

merry christmas,btw.....

look....this stuff sometimes takes a long time to shake out.....look at o.j.....he`s still looking for nicole`s killer(even though it`s hard to believe he hasn`t looked in the mirror in the past 10 years).....

anyhoo...merry christmas....and please...i don`t want any of you troofers(and i say that with affection) trying to crash my neocon-zionist pot-luck dinner/meeting....

it won`t matter,though...i`ll be in disguise....

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hey marine,

once again you and scott, 6'5 and the mindless wont address any basic questions and ask everyone else to ... please tell me exactly what all you geniuses think happened? is it the straight official story, did all 19 terrorists get on the plane ... you can dish it out but never come clean ... you are all jokes:00hour

scott, since you cant comment and need others to think for you, go ahead and email me and explain your thoughts and/or call, you guys are so sorry, you wet and froth at the mouth thinking about acually exposing your ignorance :)

Please tell me exactly where the proof is that almost all the K-9 dogs died that did the collapse work.
Please tell me exactly where the proof is that the CIA is using opium fields in Afghanistan as cash crops - which is why the production levels have been so high since 2001.

Donkey, you are not the man with the plan here. You are not the man with the answer. You sit there as if you are king of the ****ing hill and demand that all of us weak minded individuals email and call you - as if we need to prove our worth to you.
You put it out there to me to call you and record it. I've ponied up and said - let's go. All you need to do is explain to me your thought process and how you filter your information when you take choice sound bytes and post them here and try to make them fact.
i.e, dog statement, and opium statement.

Those two expamples alone (well, let's not forget saying that Col. Griggs was the commandant of the USMC either..) give me doubt to letting you record me, which I know you will anyway even without my consent... its what you do with it afterwords that worries me. Are you going to jerk off to it? or are you going to cut it up and insert different questions before my answers and then put it up at www.911dumb****s.com

Except we aren't going to do this as a one on one call. I'm going to post a 800 number on here that will allow you and i to speak on, and everyone else can feel free to dial in and listen.
 

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jarhead, did you take it up the ass in the corps ... telling me to jerk off? give me a break? you or scotty, the ultimate pile on stiff, run to jack whining like little girls all the time ...

you insulted me from day one, i say shit to you and you cry .. you never ever say what happened all you want to know is where i get facts ... 99% of time they are posted ... the canine deal i heard from a radio archive; TRY LISTENING TO SGT. TARTAGLIA LINK, HE TALKS ABOUT DYING DOGS TOO ... the commadant deal if the rank wasnt proper, doesnt matter, his wife said all you jarheads take it up the ass, straight from her hubby's diary--so do you or dont you?

you are such a shill and flunky, you amuse me ... hows it feel to be insulted with caustic words? you and scott and fdc get away with it all the time yet when reversed you cry and whine and run to the authorities with skid marks... so have you ever seen jarheads get sodomized ... have you ever done it, have you ever heard about it? you want all my facts answered, i think you are damaged goods and dont know reality ... the 9/11 facts are fairly cut and dried and since you worked for the military i expect you to parrot it like a good lackey ... but i am still curious, is it bc you are sexually disoriented like the white house kiddie porn perverts that you seem to defend or never comment on? trust me, i saw your pic, its something very ordinary like your brain ...

if jack wants to close the thread i dont really care, ive put in enough info to prove you and scott atlanta and 6'5 and gw are complete dumbshits ...

you say agent is my cheerleader, you make me laff, anyone that disagrees with you, you attack, just like you accuse us of ... the difference is, you have no facts, you dont answer the most basic anomalies of 9/11 .... your mindset sickens me and is what makes 9/11 possible altho when this country changes for the worse, you will prob wont even recognize it bc you are incapable of sensing climates ...
 
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sniffle sniffle boo hoo.

there you go, right from the shitbird's mouth. Let's shut down this thread!
hey, I dont agree with TonyT or whatever his name is, but I haven't dragged his name thru mud or lashed out at him. You know why? Because he isn't a cocky arrogant ****ing prick who acts like he is god himself telling all of us to call and email him in private so he can judge how smart we are.


I am telling you, as have others: YOU ARE LIVING IN A FANTASYLAND! SEEK HELP NOW!
You just don't get it. Seriously. You don't get it. It's not about what "i believe" this about you stating that this was an inside job and our country did it to ourselves. You are trying to prove your point with smoke and mirrors. Everyone is calling you out on it and you refuse to listen.

Here it is, nearly 7 years later and there has been nothing proven. I can't recall turning on the news lately and listening to them talk about the current investigation being conducted on the insider job that occured? Media bias you say? The Right controls the media?

This is the same media that attempted to crucify Bush over ridiculously false National Guard papers.
This is the same media that ripped apart the men's lacrosse team because there was a whiff of racial assault.

And now, here it is.. with Cheney and Bush at record lows in approval for a White House staff... and all this apparently obvious information at our hands... and no one will act on it? Are you fvcking kidding me? You think that the Right controls the media?
 

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And, technically, on Day 1 I did not start shit with you. I stated that while you posted that question in the opening post you probably had info lined up and I didn't understand why you posted that question if you already had all that info on tap.


I didn't say you were full of shit until day 2.
 

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you insulted me from day one, i say shit to you and you cry .. you never ever say what happened all you want to know is where i get facts ... 99% of time they are posted ... the canine deal i heard from a radio archive; TRY LISTENING TO SGT. TARTAGLIA LINK, HE TALKS ABOUT DYING DOGS TOO ... the commadant deal if the rank wasnt proper, doesnt matter, his wife said all you jarheads take it up the ass, straight from her hubby's diary--so do you or dont you?


You are missing such an incredibly obvious thing here dumf*k.

Credibility.

If you can't get things right, what are we supposed to believe?

Question everything. Didn't you say that in one of your posts way early on here? question everything?

Here I am, questioning you. daily.

I guess it doesn't apply to you. only applies to "the man" huh?
 
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