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The fact that this man is alive...
...is proof that "Loose Change" is bullshit.
Here's why:
1. The man in the picture above is Dylan Avery. To be more precise, the fact that Dylan, his friends, and family are alive, is proof that "Loose Change" is bullshit. He, along with a couple of his friends, created a 9/11 conspiracy video claiming that the US government and the military caused 9/11. Take a closer look at the last part of that last sentence: he's claiming that the US government, for whatever ends, killed nearly 3,000 innocent Americans, and tens if not hundreds of thousands of more lives in the conflicts that ensued because of it.
2. Since Dylan's arguing that the government has no problem killing 3,000 innocent people, this raises the question: if his documentary is true, and we've established that the government has no ethical qualms about killing thousands of its own people, then why wouldn't the government kill Avery and his friends as well? What's a few more lives to them to ensure the success of this conspiracy?
Whatever reason it may be that the government supposedly orchestrated this conspiracy, it must have been worth it to them to cause so much suffering and loss of life. So if there's any truth to this, then you can bet your ass that the government wouldn't let a couple of pecker-neck chumps with a couple of Macs and too much time on their hands jeopardise their entire operation by letting this stupid video float around on the Internet. I can picture you morons emailing me now: "BUT MADOX, MAYBE DYLAN POSTED IT ON THE INTERNET BEFORE THE GOVERNMENT HAD A CHANCE TO REMOVE IT LOL." Yeah, too bad this rebuttal is inconsistent with the premise of Dylan's shit-festival of a movie: that the WTC was brought down "in a carefully planned and controlled demolition ... and it was pulled off with military precision." Now we're expected to believe that the same government that was able to commit the largest terrorist operation in history--with military precision no less--is suddenly too incompetent to sniff out and shut down a little website set up by some college losers within days, if not minutes of its creation? The US government has the capability to monitor every electronic communication made anywhere in the world, yet we're expected to believe that they wouldn't be able to nix this kid long before his video ever became popular?
I win.
There is no conspiracy.
Eat shit, losers.
...is proof that "Loose Change" is bullshit.
Here's why:
1. The man in the picture above is Dylan Avery. To be more precise, the fact that Dylan, his friends, and family are alive, is proof that "Loose Change" is bullshit. He, along with a couple of his friends, created a 9/11 conspiracy video claiming that the US government and the military caused 9/11. Take a closer look at the last part of that last sentence: he's claiming that the US government, for whatever ends, killed nearly 3,000 innocent Americans, and tens if not hundreds of thousands of more lives in the conflicts that ensued because of it.
2. Since Dylan's arguing that the government has no problem killing 3,000 innocent people, this raises the question: if his documentary is true, and we've established that the government has no ethical qualms about killing thousands of its own people, then why wouldn't the government kill Avery and his friends as well? What's a few more lives to them to ensure the success of this conspiracy?
Whatever reason it may be that the government supposedly orchestrated this conspiracy, it must have been worth it to them to cause so much suffering and loss of life. So if there's any truth to this, then you can bet your ass that the government wouldn't let a couple of pecker-neck chumps with a couple of Macs and too much time on their hands jeopardise their entire operation by letting this stupid video float around on the Internet. I can picture you morons emailing me now: "BUT MADOX, MAYBE DYLAN POSTED IT ON THE INTERNET BEFORE THE GOVERNMENT HAD A CHANCE TO REMOVE IT LOL." Yeah, too bad this rebuttal is inconsistent with the premise of Dylan's shit-festival of a movie: that the WTC was brought down "in a carefully planned and controlled demolition ... and it was pulled off with military precision." Now we're expected to believe that the same government that was able to commit the largest terrorist operation in history--with military precision no less--is suddenly too incompetent to sniff out and shut down a little website set up by some college losers within days, if not minutes of its creation? The US government has the capability to monitor every electronic communication made anywhere in the world, yet we're expected to believe that they wouldn't be able to nix this kid long before his video ever became popular?
I win.
There is no conspiracy.
Eat shit, losers.
you are a complete joke, judgy ... why dont they kill every single documentary maker, dylan avery in one amongst hundreds; his isnt even close to some of the more enlightening, of course you havent seen them so how could you know ... why dont they kill DRG, sybil edwards, charley sheen, Marion Cotillard, David vonkleist, sgt. tartaglia, alex jones, kevin barrett, johnny wave, jimmy walter--a millionire funding the truth all over the globe, michael collins piper, etc etc; you want me to name another 50, you mypoic fed?
you know absolutely nothing about 9/11 ... you find some wtcs info and swallow it bc some other neocon plant is on the dole saying the buildings weren't blown up, and you cant stomach that the usa murders people everywhere ...
are you into the need for the usa to maim over a million iraqis and usa soldiers using DU ...
the humorous thing is that with all my posts if i have had a few that arent 100% accurate, i would be amazed ... but lets face it, unlike you and marine, you guys NEVER admit you could be wrong anytime anywhere ... im not that naive in life
my facts taken on the whole, just like DRG contends, pile drive you sheep into the ground ... the fact you and marine wont even face 90% of my questions proves you are shills and unworthy of carrying on a debate ... you think you have 'proof on one or two things in the argument' that's what children do, judgy ... if im 90% right then thats an "A" ... you guys think you are 10% right and in any flunky's book that's not good
you cry and post pics like the other dolts and wont even answer simple things i ask bc you know nothing other than your tower BS
so judge
can cell phones work at 30K feet?
why wont they release any of the footage of the flight 77 hitting the pentagon?
do you find it curious that terrorist passport IDs fluttered free at the wtcs and shanksville?
why did the fbi admit ted olson lied during the moussouai trial?
why did bush remain reading pet the goat after wtc 2 was hit, when every SS agent in the world would say protocol would be to get him out there instantly?
why didnt any of the 19 terrorsits appear on the original flight manifests? how did they get aboard?
why did lisa jefferson lie on the larry king show and change her story regarding todd beamer?
why are OBL videos released by the USA gov. as evidence faked? or do you say thay are all real?
how do fires burn 90 days later at the wtcs at 2xs the heat of day one?
why did some of the 19 supposed terrorists train at USA MILITARY instillations and use those same addresses as their own?
why did norad not get an intercept plane up for 90 mins when 67 times for 67 times in the previous year did they made it happen in 15 mins or less?
why did cheney lie about his arrival in the white house bunker and norm mineta testify differently?
how do girders weighing over a ton get shot 600' away from the towers and harpoon buildings?
judgy, you are a shill and doofus, keep posting pics and cartoons with your hillbilly pals :mj07:
ps judge, stick your uneducated nose into the MENA story and start opening your mind.
you know absolutely nothing about 9/11 ... you find some wtcs info and swallow it bc some other neocon plant is on the dole saying the buildings weren't blown up, and you cant stomach that the usa murders people everywhere ...
are you into the need for the usa to maim over a million iraqis and usa soldiers using DU ...
the humorous thing is that with all my posts if i have had a few that arent 100% accurate, i would be amazed ... but lets face it, unlike you and marine, you guys NEVER admit you could be wrong anytime anywhere ... im not that naive in life
my facts taken on the whole, just like DRG contends, pile drive you sheep into the ground ... the fact you and marine wont even face 90% of my questions proves you are shills and unworthy of carrying on a debate ... you think you have 'proof on one or two things in the argument' that's what children do, judgy ... if im 90% right then thats an "A" ... you guys think you are 10% right and in any flunky's book that's not good
you cry and post pics like the other dolts and wont even answer simple things i ask bc you know nothing other than your tower BS
so judge
can cell phones work at 30K feet?
why wont they release any of the footage of the flight 77 hitting the pentagon?
do you find it curious that terrorist passport IDs fluttered free at the wtcs and shanksville?
why did the fbi admit ted olson lied during the moussouai trial?
why did bush remain reading pet the goat after wtc 2 was hit, when every SS agent in the world would say protocol would be to get him out there instantly?
why didnt any of the 19 terrorsits appear on the original flight manifests? how did they get aboard?
why did lisa jefferson lie on the larry king show and change her story regarding todd beamer?
why are OBL videos released by the USA gov. as evidence faked? or do you say thay are all real?
how do fires burn 90 days later at the wtcs at 2xs the heat of day one?
why did some of the 19 supposed terrorists train at USA MILITARY instillations and use those same addresses as their own?
why did norad not get an intercept plane up for 90 mins when 67 times for 67 times in the previous year did they made it happen in 15 mins or less?
why did cheney lie about his arrival in the white house bunker and norm mineta testify differently?
how do girders weighing over a ton get shot 600' away from the towers and harpoon buildings?
judgy, you are a shill and doofus, keep posting pics and cartoons with your hillbilly pals :mj07:
ps judge, stick your uneducated nose into the MENA story and start opening your mind.
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here let me help smarten you up, judgy
here let me help smarten you up, judgy
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1558956367063931499
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here let me help smarten you up, judgy
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1558956367063931499
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donk,
the reason we have not answered ALL of your mind numbing questions is because you can only shovel sh1t so fast.
the reason we have not answered ALL of your mind numbing questions is because you can only shovel sh1t so fast.
Yes sir, I do.you`re my favorite judge...you know that?
However, it is comforting to read your words admitting such. Thank you and I guess I am honored.
right, marine, you coward, you are never wrong yet you cant answer simple questions bc you know the answer is that you are a shill and the truth is out there in the form that the neocons and the usa gov. caused 9/11 and you cant even begin to tackle it other then harping on 1% of minor points ... :00hour
so take a stab at those and all the others you have ducked for so long--ive exposed you 100xs times to every slight misstep i might have had...
see, the diff. between you and me is i want the truth, you side step all of it along with hillbilly, gw, or judgy who knows next to nothing, and hicks like uga who knows absolutely nothing except how to fingerpaint:mj07:
so take a stab at those and all the others you have ducked for so long--ive exposed you 100xs times to every slight misstep i might have had...
see, the diff. between you and me is i want the truth, you side step all of it along with hillbilly, gw, or judgy who knows next to nothing, and hicks like uga who knows absolutely nothing except how to fingerpaint:mj07:
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SOOOOO, let me get this straight? This very public figure didn't get executed by the Gov''t (which would only have added to the conspiracy and not stopped any "movement"), thus there can't be a conspiracy?
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I WIN, EAT SHIT:mj07: :mj07: :mj07:
Talk about retarded fking theories.
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I WIN, EAT SHIT:mj07: :mj07: :mj07:
Talk about retarded fking theories.
mr mel,
isnt reassuring that these probing intellectuals address my simple posted questions, ones they flee from everytime yet maintain people that dare question lies are raving conspirators? and they add to the jocularity by offering feeble excuses like they are too busy to pick up the gauntlet yet they have spent days reading this thread and pasting pics and other sheep's convoluted thoughts?:mj07:
WE ALL KNOW THE TRUE CONSPIRACY IS THE FAIRY TALE NEOCON MYTH PARROTED BY SHEEP IN FORUMS SUCH AS THIS.:00hour
isnt reassuring that these probing intellectuals address my simple posted questions, ones they flee from everytime yet maintain people that dare question lies are raving conspirators? and they add to the jocularity by offering feeble excuses like they are too busy to pick up the gauntlet yet they have spent days reading this thread and pasting pics and other sheep's convoluted thoughts?:mj07:
WE ALL KNOW THE TRUE CONSPIRACY IS THE FAIRY TALE NEOCON MYTH PARROTED BY SHEEP IN FORUMS SUCH AS THIS.:00hour
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i'm bored.
when are you going to counter my arguements on the 19 rector building?
or is that how it works?
you throw sh*t on the wall... i clear out the obvious false ones and then you just move on with the ones i haven't got to yet?
so you are pretty much just conceding that I am right in what I post by not responding to it.
After all, you are vocal about pretty much every bit of crap you post here... then you get quite and wont discuss it anymore... so I must be right.
cool.
you are a weasel, marine....
i said whatever you think about the rector bldg is fine by me for the twentieth time, i dont even care about that minute point, so chalk it up on your side if it makes you happy; the fact is the fake tapes from cnn show no bldg and other anomalies that you have refused to address over and over on here ... what is your problem of assimilating my answers and then re-asking them like a skipping record :nono:
now since you are the ultimate wuss in ducking everything, why dont you address all the ones i have asked instead of running like a girl:mj07:
now answer mine, griggs denier :mj07:
so its officially marine 1-0, arent you a genius :0corn
and once again what have you done for mankind in regarding kids, old people or anyone, since you seem obsessed with this resler thing ... you are the ultimate loser.
i said whatever you think about the rector bldg is fine by me for the twentieth time, i dont even care about that minute point, so chalk it up on your side if it makes you happy; the fact is the fake tapes from cnn show no bldg and other anomalies that you have refused to address over and over on here ... what is your problem of assimilating my answers and then re-asking them like a skipping record :nono:
now since you are the ultimate wuss in ducking everything, why dont you address all the ones i have asked instead of running like a girl:mj07:
now answer mine, griggs denier :mj07:
so its officially marine 1-0, arent you a genius :0corn
and once again what have you done for mankind in regarding kids, old people or anyone, since you seem obsessed with this resler thing ... you are the ultimate loser.
Over the years, complaints and concerns about Resler have included: 1) His drinking (he has maintained that he didn't mix social drinking and coaching); 2) Inappropriate language, some of it considered demeaning to women; 3) Permitting foul language by his players; 4) Complaints about his coaching ability in recent years. (Nonetheless, Roosevelt won its fifth KingCo 4A title under Resler last season. Overall, he was 187-51 and won the 2004 Class 4A state championship).
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Havnt been in here in months and first time back I see all the same old same old. I dont think I missed much.
Cant dispute the guys record.
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Havnt been in here in months and first time back I see all the same old same old. I dont think I missed much.
Cant dispute the guys record.
After a few minutes, my dad started to get impatient. "What's taking you?" he shouted.
"I'll be there in a minute." Jeff's voice was detached.
A short time later, Jeff returned carrying a large bowl of popcorn. He set it down and we attacked it like starving dogs.
We each had eaten a couple fistfuls when my dad made this sour face. "What the hell did you put on this?!"
Jeff shrugged. "I just used some butter from the refrigerator."
"Tastes funny," my dad said, inspecting a handful.
And that was it. Funny or not, we dug back into the bowl, gradually depleting it even though it tasted strange.
A short time later, my dad noticed Jeff hadn't eaten any of the corn, not a kernel, and stopped in mid-chew. "There's something wrong with this," he said, dropping a handful of corn back in the bowl. "What the hell did you do?"
Jeff looked at the nearly empty bowl, then back at all of us. Without blinking he said, "I stood up on the counter and pissed on it."
My dad's eyeballs rolled into the back of his head. He couldn't believe this perversion came from his first-born son.
"You what?!" he said, more sickly than loud.
"I peed on it. That's not butter." Jeff was almost exultant.
"I can't believe what I'm hearing." My dad looked like he'd just seen photos from the Holocaust. "You did not."
Jeff was done talking.
My dad looked at Jeff then back at the corn.
"That's the sickest thing I ever heard," he said. "Go to your room!"
Jeff arose and did as he was told.
My dad looked at Bruce, Paul and me. We'd all eaten the corn. The room was thick with a shared shame.
My dad released a few more "I can't believe it, that kid's sick."
But most damning to all of us, the unspoken truth, was not the act of being duped into eating urine-soaked popcorn, but the fact that even though it tasted terrible--the gluttons that we were--we still devoured it.
That's what stung. Felled by one of the seven deadly sins.
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the seven deadly sins:142smilie
"I'll be there in a minute." Jeff's voice was detached.
A short time later, Jeff returned carrying a large bowl of popcorn. He set it down and we attacked it like starving dogs.
We each had eaten a couple fistfuls when my dad made this sour face. "What the hell did you put on this?!"
Jeff shrugged. "I just used some butter from the refrigerator."
"Tastes funny," my dad said, inspecting a handful.
And that was it. Funny or not, we dug back into the bowl, gradually depleting it even though it tasted strange.
A short time later, my dad noticed Jeff hadn't eaten any of the corn, not a kernel, and stopped in mid-chew. "There's something wrong with this," he said, dropping a handful of corn back in the bowl. "What the hell did you do?"
Jeff looked at the nearly empty bowl, then back at all of us. Without blinking he said, "I stood up on the counter and pissed on it."
My dad's eyeballs rolled into the back of his head. He couldn't believe this perversion came from his first-born son.
"You what?!" he said, more sickly than loud.
"I peed on it. That's not butter." Jeff was almost exultant.
"I can't believe what I'm hearing." My dad looked like he'd just seen photos from the Holocaust. "You did not."
Jeff was done talking.
My dad looked at Jeff then back at the corn.
"That's the sickest thing I ever heard," he said. "Go to your room!"
Jeff arose and did as he was told.
My dad looked at Bruce, Paul and me. We'd all eaten the corn. The room was thick with a shared shame.
My dad released a few more "I can't believe it, that kid's sick."
But most damning to all of us, the unspoken truth, was not the act of being duped into eating urine-soaked popcorn, but the fact that even though it tasted terrible--the gluttons that we were--we still devoured it.
That's what stung. Felled by one of the seven deadly sins.
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the seven deadly sins:142smilie
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But you went on and on about the rector building topic calling it the holy grail of the 'truth movement'. Yet now you can dismiss it so casually?
You're weird.
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This STILL is cracking me up! Just when I think people have hit rock bottom and cannot get stoooopider, Judgy goes and digs this up. :142smilie
They didn't murder the Loose Change producer which proves there is no conspiracy:142smilie :142smilie :142smilie
my sister's cousin's neighbor's boyfriend's aunt knows a guy named Joe Deluca who didn't die on 9/11 so there MUST BE a conspiracy.
MARINE,
like i said you are a fraud and coward, even spotting you the artifice of the rector bldg., you continue to duck and evade a real debate, the ultimate p*ssy ... you are such a square you cant see that every single time you do this you prove my point in spades ...:00hour
and, hillbilly, dont you wish you could think and write and put your thoughts down 1/1000th as well as a normal person instead of relying on pics:mj07:
like i said you are a fraud and coward, even spotting you the artifice of the rector bldg., you continue to duck and evade a real debate, the ultimate p*ssy ... you are such a square you cant see that every single time you do this you prove my point in spades ...:00hour
and, hillbilly, dont you wish you could think and write and put your thoughts down 1/1000th as well as a normal person instead of relying on pics:mj07:
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one more example of murdering gov. coverup
one more example of murdering gov. coverup
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Hampton
this would make a great movie, tragic as it is.
one more example of murdering gov. coverup
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Hampton
this would make a great movie, tragic as it is.
