a quick poll--need some input

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What next Pt1, FTD is a government plant to post here on MadJacks to keep the coverup alive.........Your either off your med's or those rainy days in Seattle have caught up with you, seek help and soon........

Sorry for your loss FTD
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very good comment Sportsaholic.

We have him on the run with everyone on ignore.

maybe he should change his name to nancyboy

oh I forgot , yyz has that one taken
 

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Gregg - you're right, of course. I appreciate your politeness and ability to spell common words.

I think the "turn away and bray" reaction we see from the likes of garden and KOD can be accounted for by fear. It's scary, after all, to see "our" government for what it actually is.
 

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From what I've read there were 120 or so Jews killed in the buildings. However, I think there was only one Israeli.

There's also the matter of the Odigo warnings, which I posted earlier in this thread. I guess you find it convenient to ignore an Israeli paper's reporting that people received warnings via its message service before the attack.

I'll post it again:

Odigo says workers were warned of attack
By Yuval Dror

Odigo, the instant messaging service, says that two of its workers received messages two hours before the Twin Towers attack on September 11 predicting the attack would happen, and the company has been cooperating with Israeli and American law enforcement, including the FBI, in trying to find the original sender of the message predicting the attack.


http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=77744&contrassID=/has\


What do you say to this, gardenweasel?

How could Israelis warn other Israelis about an attack "our" government says was carried off by Muslims?


sorry..my machine crashed.....

let me get this straight....some instant messages(i`m proceeding with the assumption that your premise is correct)..sender unknown,btw.......proves that the joos were behind 9/11?....

sooo,this means that the mossad were the ones that set up the demolition of the towers in the middle of nyc?....

or were they in cohoots with the several month old bush administration?....

and they did it all under the noses of the liberal laden cia and bureaucracies left over from the clinton administration?....

and who were those fundamentalist islamists on those planes?

i don`t know whether to take the laudanum or send it to you.....

that bin laden copping to the crime is just kerfuffle?....
 

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The problem is, KOD, that virtually every war we've been in had a triggering incident that turned out to be a lie. "9/11" is just that.

On closer inspection it always turns out that the government concocted lies to create the pretext for a war the people didn't want any part of.

- Pearl Harbor

and now

"9/11"
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OK I will give you a chance even though you failed miserably on that last question about the direct warning. And you failed to provide any further eveidence of your claim of a direct warning to the two employees. Did the employees even work in the WTC ?

OK tell me how pearl harbor resembles 911.

I wonder where ptgourd went ?

He must be wearing a muzzle or something.
 

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or were they in cohoots with the several month old bush administration?....

and they did it all under the noses of the liberal laden cia and bureaucracies left over from the clinton administration?....

and who were those fundamentalist islamists on those planes?

i don`t know whether to take the laudanum or send it to you.....

that bin laden copping to the crime is just kerfuffle?....

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good points there GW

Hey gw have you seen ptgourd ? I think he may
not have any more answers for us.

If I was a pimp , I would turn him out like the bitch that he is.

OK - I am sleepy now. I only got to page 3 of this thread. Cant wait to read what other proof ptgourd has in store for me.

thanks Agent . I am enjoying this thread. Its kinda like science fiction with a twist.
 

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i like pt1....and i hope niederton isn`t easily offended...

we bust balls in the political forum...but it`s never personal from my end....

it`s a gambling forum and we are,after all,degenerates...
 

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i like pt1....and i hope niederton isn`t easily offended...

we bust balls in the political forum...but it`s never personal from my end....

it`s a gambling forum and we are,after all,degenerates...
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yeh its not personal with me either. But he sure did get personal with some of the posters that were questioning him.

Got them on the run, calling them stupid etc.

I wonder where that guy went .....

He is probably reading this with his fingers on the ignore button, going to take it out on KOD.

yeh ok pal. If he had just addressed my very first questions with some kind of respect , I would have gone about my business.
 

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let me get this straight....some instant messages(i`m proceeding with the assumption that your premise is correct)..sender unknown,btw.......proves that the joos were behind 9/11?....

If it's true, and the story appeared in an Israeli paper, it proves that Israelis used an Israeli messaging company to warn Israelis (I presume) that the WTC was going to be attacked - before it happened.

This is dead serious stuff, garden. It's not something you can dismiss as a joke. This report did appear. It was reported subsequently on Fox. And Fox did then throw that report down the memory hole and try to pretend it had never happened. And conservative Britt Hume's boy Carl Carmeron did quote someone saying that it was "career suicide" to bring up the Israeli connection (ie, the hundreds of spies that Chertoff released back to Israel).

Again I ask: how in the world does an Israeli know about a "Muslim" operation before it takes place - and warn his fellow Israelis?

And who really controls our government and media if they're afraid to report on this stuff?

I'm not aware of any major media in the U.S. owned by Muslims.

There's something serious and scary going on here.


sooo,this means that the mossad were the ones that set up the demolition of the towers in the middle of nyc?....

or were they in cohoots with the several month old bush administration?....

I infer from a pattern of behavior combined with bits of evidence appearing in the media. The Mossad's motto is "by way of deception thou shalt do war," and its history is essentially a decades-long series of terrorist false-flags. An Israeli and former Mossad agent named Victor Ostrovsky has written two books detailing this stuff, including the bombing of the disco in Berlin, which the Mossad successfully false-flagged Reagan into blaming on Libya. Ostrovsky also said that the Mossad knew about the marine corps barracks bombing in Lebanon before it happened but chose not to warn the U.S. That's a Mossad agent making those claims, not me. Is he lying? The Mossad tried to get a court to suppress his book when it came out, so I assume he's not lying. There's also the matter of the USS Liberty attack, which Gregg has posted on.

So, I can't prove that Mossad did WTC. But it does fit their behavior pattern. And the motive is there. The Bushies are Zionists to a man, and they all wanted to get rid of Saddam Hussein and reorder the Middle East. The two trillion dollars and X thousands of cornfield boys' bodies it takes to do that are nothing to them.

At a certain point, you have to try not to see what's going on.


and they did it all under the noses of the liberal laden cia and bureaucracies left over from the clinton administration?....

Don't be fooled by liberal-conservative or Republican-Democrat facades. They're better seen as two factions of one party. When it comes to wars like this both parties are on the same side. The Democrats have the power to get us out of Iraq. They do nothing. That's because they and the Republicans are ruled by what is good for Israel rather than what is good for the United States. At least that's my judgment.

and who were those fundamentalist islamists on those planes?

Like the FBI, I don't know. Unlike the FBI, I do care.

i don`t know whether to take the laudanum or send it to you.....

No need to be insulting. Remember, there's a teensy-weensy (.000001) chance that you're...not 100% right.
 
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`night fellers....

enjoyed the discussion...looks like this thread ain`t dyin` anytime soon...

pt1...we can disagree,bud....

niederton...don`t be a stranger to the forum...good stuff...

scottie....you`re a pit bull..:142smilie
 

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G'night, garden.

Fun discussing this stuff.

I do believe in conspiracies - in sports and in politics.

NFL = sports-flavored entertainment.

9/11 = neocon pretext for getting your boy to die for Israel.
 

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If it's true, and the story appeared in an Israeli paper, it proves that Israelis used an Israeli messaging company to warn Israelis (I presume) that the WTC was going to be attacked - before it happened.

This is dead serious stuff, garden. It's not something you can dismiss as a joke. This report did appear. It was reported subsequently on Fox. And Fox did then throw that report down the memory hole and try to pretend it had never happened. And conservative Britt Hume's boy Carl Carmeron did quote someone saying that it was "career suicide" to bring up the Israeli connection (ie, the hundreds of spies that Chertoff released back to Israel).

Again I ask: how in the world does an Israeli know about a "Muslim" operation before it takes place - and warn his fellow Israelis?

And who really controls our government and media if they're afraid to report on this stuff?

I'm not aware of any major media in the U.S. owned by Muslims.

There's something serious and scary going on here.




I infer from a pattern of behavior combined with bits of evidence appearing in the media. The Mossad's motto is "by way of deception thou shalt do war," and its history is essentially a decades-long series of terrorist false-flags. An Israeli and former Mossad agent named Victor Ostrovsky has written two books detailing this stuff, including the bombing of the disco in Berlin, which the Mossad successfully false-flagged Reagan into blaming on Libya. Ostrovsky also said that the Mossad knew about the marine corps barracks bombing in Lebanon before it happened but chose not to warn the U.S. That's a Mossad agent making those claims, not me. Is he lying? The Mossad tried to get a court to suppress his book when it came out, so I assume he's not lying. There's also the matter of the USS Liberty attack, which Gregg has posted on.

So, I can't prove that Mossad did WTC. But it does fit their behavior pattern. And the motive is there. The Bushies are Zionists to a man, and they all wanted to get rid of Saddam Hussein and reorder the Middle East. The two trillion dollars and X thousands of cornfield boys' bodies it takes to do that are nothing to them.

At a certain point, you have to try not to see what's going on.




Don't be fooled by liberal-conservative or Republican-Democrat facades. They're better seen as two factions of one party. When it comes to wars like this both parties are on the same side. The Democrats have the power to get us out of Iraq. They do nothing. That's because they and the Republicans are rule by what is good for Israel rather than what is good for the United States. At least that's my judgment.



Like the FBI, I don't know. Unlike the FBI, I do care.



No need to be insulting. Remember, there's a teensy-weensy (.000001) chance that you're...not 100% right.

sorry...i`m snarky...it`s all in fun...but,i`m sooo right on this one....when ONE witness comes forward,we can talk...

and i gave your premise the presumption of authenticity...i wonder why the 9/11 commission didn`t?....

if you live in this country...looking at the prevailing political climate.....you know that declaring that they`re"two sides of one party" is......it`s downright ron paulian...

one question...are there any muslims living in israel?......

hmmmm?...interesting question,isn`t it...i`m sure you know the answer...
 

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good stuff, you are very well informed on all fronts ...:00hour

gw,

thanks for the kind words, but there have been many witnesses come forward, i have posted them all over this thread--just read post 352, if that sounds too surreal to you, then you will never sway and thats your priviledge ... if you mean have bush cheney rockefeller wolfowitz perle the mossad et al. come fwd., no, theyd be fried in a chair ... and on bin laden confessing, that is thoroughly discussed here, that video found by mind blowing luck in a tent in afghanistan, was not of BL, hes left handed, doesnt wear jewelry, isnt that dark and his nose is not even close ... im repeating posts now, if you guys dont want to read facts, thats cool, but i am not about going backwards to explain things to people who wont spend time to read the basics
 
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good stuff, you are very well informed on all fronts ...:00hour

gw,

thanks for the kind words, but there have been many witnesses come forward, i have posted them all over this thread--just read post 352, if that sounds too surreal to you, then you will never sway and thats your priviledge ... if you mean have bush cheney rockefeller wolfowitz perle the mossad et al. come fwd., no, theyd be fried in a chair ... and on bin laden confessing, that is thoroughly discussed here, that video found by mind blowing luck in a tent in afghanistan, was not of BL, hes left handed, doesnt wear jewelry, isnt that dark and his nose is not even close ... im repeating posts now, if you guys dont want to read facts, thats cool, but i am not about going backwards to explain things to people who wont spend time to read the basics

o.k.....i tried....i went back and read the first 2 paragraphs..and that was more than enough......i made it as far as the part where one of the first responders(obviously not robert oppenheimer or werner von braun)thought that "tactical nuclear weapons" were used?.....

either bush,or possibly our chief ally probably in the world(israel),either put tactical nukes on 2 passenger jets,with delayed reaction triggers,btw........and found some islamists to fly them into the towers to boot....or figured out a way to integrate them into the towers without anyone knowing or ever finding out?....

you`re a good guy,pt1...i hope to discuss hoops,f`ball and other issues with you in the near future...

but,if your purpose was to keep that vein on my forehead in a constant state of flux and raw that nerve in the logic center of my brain, then,you`ve succeeded in a big way.....:00x30

PEACE,my brotha`s....
 

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Geezus K RISTE Scott, you managed to spew more dumbness in a few hours after I went to bed than I ever would have dreamed possible!

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Have you read ANY FAWKING thing posted? Or do you just enjoy spewing the ignorance? Do you think I want these things to be true? I made up my mind about most of this a longggggggggg time ago.

Are you really dumb enough to believe a plane brought those buildings down? They were burning at about 1300 deg for an hour, and we are talking about the most indestructible buildings ever built! How many of your welds have fire proof asbestos sprayed on them you dope? Most of the fuel from the planes exploded out the other side of the buildings, or was burned off in the initial explosion. You really look like a dumb ass barging in here arguing about shit that you know nothing about. Just keep your dumb head buried in the sand you ignorant ass. Keep believing all the BS your gov't spoon feeds you. Keep believing those guys in a cave planned and executed this entire thing, and took over planes with box cutters and flew commercial airliners all over NORAD protected airspace without a single fighter being released for 36 minutes, and were able to find their way to the towers and fly the planes perfectly into them. I feel like a complete dumb ass just typing that stupid ass story, yet you believe it? These fukcers couldn't get a model plane off the ground!

Do yourself a favor and don't come back in here, because I will be forced to make you look like an even bigger dumb ass than you have managed to do yourself. Just bury your head, and go on with your life, and let us cooks have our fun. :00x30
 

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Do yourself a favor and don't come back in here, because I will be forced to make you look like an even bigger dumb ass than you have managed to do yourself. Just bury your head, and go on with your life, and let us cooks have our fun. :00x30

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I was invited in here for my opinions agent. Cant remember whot that was that invited me ....

uhhh YOU !

OK I am on page 3 now reading every line and looking at every video.

sure is interesting how you and ptgourd can be so stupid.

Maybe I can pursuade you to my side.

I will do my bestest.
 

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scott,

since you have come into this thread, like you have so many since we both joined, and messed it like a mongrel with diarrhea, insulted me over and over, and i have never once entered one of your threads or communicated with in all these years b/c i had no respect for how you treat anyone, nor your intellect, i am offering you to get my email from jack and phone me and curse me all you want bc thats all it seems you are interested in, i.e. insulting people, calling me a pussy ... if that will make you happy, get it all out of your system and be my guest ... i wont raise my voice... i would welcome your diatribe as something you obviously need to resolve some deep rooted issues ...

the pictures of the pentagon wreckage you posted are all faked, theres a guy online that solves that very conclusively, such as their triage center was photographed as much as a year earlier bc the cement road divider isnt even in the pics ... the fake 5 photos they released is even marked 9/12 on some tapes; the flight recorder proves the plane was 479' high on its last entry which wouldve made it impossible to hit the pentagon ....you are so far beyond your expertise here, your ignorance mocks you ...

here's some pentagon links

http://911review.org/brad.com/pentagonpictures.html

http://car.1accesshost.com/

http://www.public-action.com/911/boneguys.html

http://www.pentagonstrike.co.uk/pentagon.swf


go get victor thorn's 911 on Trial, or daivd ray griffiths THE NEW PEARL HARBOR ... go to 911underground and listen to some of the 500 plus radio programs that actually will illuminate your darkened brain ...

i know i said i wouldnt address you, but you have even exceeded the amount of posts i dared imagine you would ...

now you can have a choice, keep dumping garbage in here, or get informed ... if you keep even a semi opened mind and not regress to a reptilian brain you will see the gov.'s version has no validity, that they changed their story over and over, that the kean commission lied etc etc ... you have no knowledge, read up and try to get in the game ... some people have been studying these events for 6 years, ten hours a day ... you arent going to be informed reading 10 posts ... i invite you to explore on your own ...

and one more thing, being a patriot is questioning your gov., not following them like a lapdog ... only 25 per cent of the original colonists believed we should fight back against england ... what if the majority would have decided to acquiesce ...

this isnt about ego or who yells the loudest, its about weighing data and being informed.

gl in your search for the truth,
gregg
 

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cool link

cool link

http://911busters.com/aSanFran.htm

large selection of speakers and streaming vids that tell you the things the mass media refuses to report ...

listen to jim marrs tell you about USA soldiers suicides in iraq and bush cutting benefits to 911 responders, or michael ruppert, a LA cop, talk about NORAD'S stand down--great rundown to catch anyone up that has no clue on the timeline and lies by our gov., amongst many great speakers:00hour
 
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