a quick poll--need some input

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why? does he have you on ignore? i have no idea what's going on in here and not about to read the whole thread.

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Jack

its a convaluted mess and pt1gard should not be allowed to continue perpetuating a fraud.

This thread belongs in the sports fans forum where we will not have to look at it everyday.

He bumps this like a madman.
 

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open discussion?

i didnt realize one is supposed to respond to pictures and scurrility on here ... there hasnt been a single person discuss 9-11 intelligently with anyone here who doesnt cow tow to the official story, you only post PM and then name call ...

I didnt realize everytime someone posts an article that it reuired to defending themself to ad hominems ... these neoncon supporters are so threatened by the truth they clamor to have to this thread shutdown, yet they fail to address the posts themes ...

its ok, i understand they cant believe the neocons murdered thousands on 9-11 so they could murder hundred of thousands with their expensive toys in the middle east, almost all of them innocent women and children, or torturing more innocent men in abu ghraib, which almost every single one, if not all, are released later w/o any formal charges ... thats your perogative, im fine with it ... but should i choose to point out these horrific injustices to mankind and it so upsets you that you plead with jack to have my thoughts and several more on MJs removed, then that is your perogative ...

it just amuses me how much it burns your asses to permit free speech and thought ... that is what Hitler and nazis beat the drum for ...

I will keep posting pertinent information and ignoring all who bring nothing to the table and continue to tell me over and over to STFU, and I wont run to jack asking to fight my battles. you waste my time repeating myself, which i have several times to your same laborious, mind-arrested charges... you are the flavorless gum in the cog trying to slow down the engine of TRUTH, and I wont fall prey to your B-League machinations :00hour
 
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whatever you say, paul harvey
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at least my Paul Harvey posts are diversified and not the same propaganda over and over and over.

He refuses to answer any questions that shed light on his conspiracy theories. He is the one that does not allow free speech. He is the Hitler in this equation.

And he called daddy AR a moron.

That alone should qualify this thread to be dumpstered.
 

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Who do you guys think you are?!! You disagree with something so you want it dumpstered!:mj07:

DON'T open the freaking thread then, how's that?:00x33

Yet you CAN'T stay away! You must pop your little heads in and name call, comment, etc.

Oh would I love to know who the hall monitor is that emailed Jack with the subject line of name calling. :mj07: I don't doubt it was likely AR, as I have seen him pull this stunt with another poster, plus he had that 'who me?' post a couple above this one. Whoever it was has a very juvenile mentality, gimme a break.

Again, you don't like the threads message, stay out! Start your own thread, and post away boys. :shrug: To me, you're all about as worrisome as a cloudy day.

Let us carry on Gregg, enough time has been wasted already.
 

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Oh would I love to know who the hall monitor is that emailed Jack with the subject line of name calling. :mj07: I don't doubt it was likely AR, as I have seen him pull this stunt with another poster, plus he had that 'who me?' post a couple above this one. Whoever it was has a very juvenile mentality, gimme a break.

agent....

in the 8 years that i have been here i have never told jack to ban somebody or close a thread. and what evidence do you have that you know that i have done this before...i would like to see it...

talk about juvenile mentality....making unfounded accusations is very juvenile..

you got a lot of fuking nerve !!
 
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agent....

in the 8 years that i have been here i have never told jack to ban somebody or close a thread. and what evidence do you have that you know that i have done this before...i would like to see it...

talk about juvenile mentality....making unfounded accusations is very juvenile..

So you just 'happened' to leave for a few months....then 'happened' to come on back when Sponge was banned from the General and Political forums? Sorry, but I find that hard to believe! But hey, I could be wrong..:shrug:
 

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So you just 'happened' to leave for a few months....then 'happened' to come on back when Sponge was banned from the General and Political forums? Sorry, but I find that hard to believe! But hey, I could be wrong..:shrug:

that's right i had nothing to do with your pen pal being banned...
 

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Uh oh, now we have an AR 182 / Sponge conspiracy??!!! ...I'm pretty sure Ed McCaffrey once again plays a bigger role than people realize.
 

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back to biz, gents

back to biz, gents

CIA Agent Allegedly Met Bin Laden in July
Alexandra Richard
(Page 2, November 1, 2001)


Duba?, one of the seven emirates of the Federation of the United Arab Emirates, North-East of Abi-Dhabi. This city, population 350,000, was the backdrop of a secret meeting between Osama bin Laden and the local CIA agent in July. A partner of the administration of the American Hospital in Duba? claims that public enemy number one stayed at this hospital between the 4th and 14th of July.

Having taken off from the Quetta airport in Pakistan, bin Laden was transferred to the hospital upon his arrival at Duba? airport. He was accompanied by his personal physician and faithful lieutenant, who could be Ayman al-Zawahari -- but on this sources are not entirely certain--, four bodyguards, as well as a male Algerian nurse, and admitted to the American Hospital, a glass and marble building situated between the Al-Garhoud and Al-Maktoum bridges.

Each floor of the hospital has two "VIP" suites and fifteen rooms. The Saudi billionnaire was admitted to the well-respected urology department run by Teerry Callaway, gallstone and infertility specialist. Dr Callaway declined to respond to our questions despite several phone calls.

As early as March, 2000, 'Asia Week,' published in Hong Kong, expressed concern for bin Laden's health, describing a serious medical problem that could put his life in danger because of "a kidney infection that is propagating itself to the liver and requires specialized treatment". According to authorized sources, bin Laden had mobile dialysis equipment shipped to his hideout in Kandahar in the first part of 2000. According to our sources, bin Laden's "travels for health reasons" have taken place before. Between 1996 and 1998, bin Laden made several trips to Duba? on business.

On September 27th, 15 days after the World Trade Center attacks, at the request of the United States, the Central Bank of the Arab Emirates announced an order to freeze assts and investments of 26 people or organisations suspected of mainting contact with bin Laden's organization, and in particular at the Duba? Islamic Bank.

"Relations between the Emirate and Saudi Arabia have always been very close," according to sources, "princes of reigning families, having recognized the Taliban regime, often travelled to Afghanistan. One of the princes of a ruling family regularily went hunting on the land of bin Laden, whom he had known and visited for many years."

There are daily flights between Duba? and Quetta by both Pakistan and Emirates Airlines. As to private planes from Saudi Arabia or from the Emirates, they regulariy fly to Quetta, where their arrival is rarely registered in airport logs.

While he was hospitalised, bin Laden received visits from many members of his family as well as prominent Saudis and Emiratis. During the hospital stay, the local CIA agent, known to many in Duba?, was seen taking the main elevator of the hospital to go to bin Laden's hospital room.

A few days later, the CIA man bragged to a few friends about having visited bin Laden. Authorised sources say that on July 15th, the day after bin Laden returned to Quetta, the CIA agent was called back to headquarters.

In late July, Emirates customs agents arrested Franco-Algerian activist Djamel Beghal at the Duba? airport. In early August, French and American authorities were advised of the arrest. Interrogated by local authorities in Abu Dhabi, Beghal stated that he was called to Afghanistan in late 2000 by Abou Zoubeida, a military leader of bin Laden's organization, Al Qaeda. Beghal's mission: bomb the US embassy on Gabriel avenue, near the Place de la Concorde, upon his return to France.

According to Arab diplomatic sources as well as French intelligence, very specific information was transmitted to the CIA with respect to terrorist attacks against American interests around the world, including on US soil. A DST report dated 7 September enumerates all the intelligence, and specifies that the order to attack was to come from Afghanistan.

In August, at the US Embassy in Paris, an emergency meeting was called between the DGSE (French foreign intelligence service) and senior US intelligence officials. The Americans were extremely worried, and requested very specific information from the French about Algerian activists, without advising their counterparts about the reasons for their requests. To the question "what do you fear in the coming days?", the Americans kept a difficult-to-fathom silence.

Contacts between the CIA and bin Laden began in 1979 when, as a representative of his family's business, bin Laden began recruiting volunteers for the Afghan resistance against the Red Army. FBI investigators examining the embassy bombing sites in Nairobi and Dar es Salaam discovered that evidence led to military explosives from the US Army, and that these explosives had been delivered threee years earlier to Afghan Arabs, the infamous international volunteer brigades involved side by side with bin Laden during the Afghan war against the Red Army.

In the pursuit of its investigations, the FBI discovered "financing agreements" that the CIA had been developing with its "arab friends" for years. The Duba? meeting is then within the logic of "a certain American policy".
 

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smurph

at least my Paul Harvey posts are diversified and not the same propaganda over and over and over.

He refuses to answer any questions that shed light on his conspiracy theories. He is the one that does not allow free speech. He is the Hitler in this equation.

And he called daddy AR a moron.

That alone should qualify this thread to be dumpstered.


You know I'm messin. I love the Paul Harvey thread, and have even bumped it myself from fear that you had forgotten about it.

I think it's silly to request this thread be closed though.
 

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operation code angel

operation code angel

Intel sources allege controlled demolition of the WTC was a U.S. DOJ "war games" exercise involving FEMA and run by former NYC Police Chief Bernard Kerik at Pier 29.

Submitted by fedup 2006-02-05 10:47:15
according to intelligence sources who asked not to be named until subpoenas and testimony commence. When Thomas Ridge resigned, the alleged 9-11 terrorist Kerik, SIDEKICK OF RUDY GIULIANI, was in line to become Secretary of Homeland Security after the passage of the U.S. Patriot Act; however, his appointment was derailed by Congress due to multiple irregularities and improprieties; Kerik was never subpoenaed for interrogation about these allegations involving Defense Department operations on 9-11 called "Code Angel" / Tripod II.

2. TARGETED PAPERWORK/PERSONNEL DESTROYED AT THE PENTAGON: moreover, ONI officials themselves--***some of whom WERE PROBING the fraudulent 10-year debt instruments allegedly held by Cantor-Fitzgerald in the doomed North Tower***--also perished along with the investigation files, all of which were curiously in the path of the 9.11 Pentagon impact. Colonel Hermann had offices in the Northwest corner of the Pentagon and he worked with David Rose of the Chancellor of the Exchequer's office for the Queen of England. She said that Keith Johnson, the Queen's signatory at Wachovia Bank, told her about the Office of Naval Intelligence being hit at the Pentagon on September 11--that there had been an ongoing investigation of money laundering in that Pentagon office.
 

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Newsweek Story: Alleged Hijackers Trained at U.S. Military Bases

By George Wehrfritz, Catharine Skipp and John Barry

NEW YORK, Sept. 15 /PRNewswire/ -- U.S. military sources have given the
FBI information that suggests five of the alleged hijackers of the planes that
were used in Tuesday's terror attacks received training at secure U.S.
military installations in the 1990s.

Three of the alleged hijackers listed their address on drivers licenses
and car registrations as the Naval Air Station in Pensacola, Fla. -- known as
the "Cradle of U.S. Navy Aviation," according to a high-ranking U.S. Navy
source.

Another of the alleged hijackers may have been trained in strategy and
tactics at the Air War College in Montgomery, Ala., said another high-ranking
Pentagon official. The fifth man may have received language instruction at
Lackland Air Force Base in San Antonio, Tex. Both were former Saudi Air Force
pilots who had come to the United States, according to the Pentagon source.

But there are slight discrepancies between the military training records
and the official FBI list of suspected hijackers -- either in the spellings of
their names or with their birthdates. One military source said it is possible
that the hijackers may have stolen the identities of the foreign nationals who
studied at the U.S. installations.

The five men were on a list of 19 people identified as hijackers by the
FBI on Friday. The three foreign nationals training in Pensacola appear to be
Saeed Alghamdi and Ahmad Alnami, who were among the four men who allegedly
commandeered United Airlines Flight 93. That flight crashed into rural
Pennsylvania. The third man who may have trained in Pensacola, Ahmed
Alghamdi, allegedly helped highjack United Airlines Flight 75, which hit the
south tower of the World Trade Center.

Military records show that the three used as their address 10 Radford
Boulevard, a base roadway on which residences for foreign-military flight
trainees are located. In March 1997, Saeed Alghamdi listed the address to
register a 1998 Oldsmobile; five months later he used it again to register a
second vehicle, a late model Buick. Drivers licenses thought to have been
issued to the other two suspects in 1996 and 1998 list the barracks as their
residences.

NEWSWEEK visited the base early Saturday morning, where military police
confirmed that the address housed foreign military flight trainees but denied
access past front barricades. A base public-information officer and the
base's duty officer both said that information about the three students had
been turned over to the FBI.

It is not unusual for foreign nationals to train at U.S. military facilities. A former Navy pilot told NEWSWEEK that during his years on the
base, "we always, always, always trained other countries' pilots. When I was
there two decades ago, it was Iranians. The shah was in power. Whoever the
country du jour is, that's whose pilots we train."

Candidates begin with "an officer's equivalent of boot camp," he said.
"Then they would put them through flight training." The U.S. has a
long-standing agreement with Saudi Arabia -- a key ally in the 1990-91 gulf
war -- to train pilots for its National Guard. Candidates are trained in air
combat on several Army and Navy bases. Training is paid for by Saudi Arabia.
 

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you could think anything you want...it doesn't matter with me.

you should ask yourself..why has your friend been banned by a few other sites besides this one ?

also why is it your business what other posters do ?

Why is it YOUR business what other posters do? What kind of question is that? Why the fukc are we even on here then??????????????????

Who cares what Sponge did or didn't do on other sites? All I know is he got banned from here, and I think it was at your (and a few others) request which is completely lame. I know you wish this place was a constant suckfest where everyone agrees with everyone, and pats everyone on the back, but some people have differing opinions. To me, it's what makes the place exist in the first place, the sharing of different opinions.

I won't clutter this thread anymore with this as I don't want it to get locked. Feel free to email me and we can discuss it further if you want.
 

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Why is it YOUR business what other posters do? What kind of question is that? Why the fukc are we even on here then??????????????????

Who cares what Sponge did or didn't do on other sites? All I know is he got banned from here, and I think it was at your (and a few others) request which is completely lame. I know you wish this place was a constant suckfest where everyone agrees with everyone, and pats everyone on the back, but some people have differing opinions. To me, it's what makes the place exist in the first place, the sharing of different opinions.

I won't clutter this thread anymore with this as I don't want it to get locked. Feel free to email me and we can discuss it further if you want.

there is a reason why somebody keeps getting banned....it's because of their ways & it's their fault nobody else's...

contrary to what you think i like when people have different opinions...& discuss the differences intelligently & not abusively...

and why would i e-mail you about this...i don't give a shit what you think about this or anything else....:142smilie
 

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AR if you honestly have an open mind listen to this 20 minute interview where your PM main man gets his ass handed to him by a host and caller in--its hilarious ....

click the link, scroll to the date i posted ... it will be painful but then again the truth always is when you are duped by lies ... but trust me, its invigorating when you finally admit you were a sheep like i was, its ok, i was where you are once then i started thinking :00hour

all my best, my friend,
gregg :)


http://911underground.com/


? 2006-08-23_Popular_Mechanics_in_Full_Retreat_on_Charles_Goyette_Show.MP3
 

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The Motive for the 9/11 Attack

The official legend of the 9/11/01 attack is rather sparse on motive. Muslim extremists attacked the United States "because they hate our freedoms". This was the only motive articulated by the Bush Administration, but more rational motives were available to consumers of print media: perhaps Osama wanted to punish the United States for stationing troops in Saudi Arabia, and perhaps he wanted to provoke the United States into attacking Arab nations in order to recruit jihadists. But the issue of bin Laden's motive was never a big issue, since he had already been tried and convicted on TV on the day of the attack. All that was important is that he hated us, that lots of Arabs hated us, and that military action was required to stamp out the terrorist training camps in Afghanistan.
Beneficiaries of the Attack

The purely ideological motive ascribed to the elusive Osama bin Laden contrasts with the very tangible and material benefits that flowed to individuals and organizations within the power structures of the United States. Indeed, the number of beneficiaries is so large that attempting to identify them may shed little light on how the crime was perpetrated. Determining who had the means to execute the attack is more likely to lead to the individuals who planned and executed the attack.

Despite the near certainty that the vast majority of beneficiaries had no operational role in the attack, it is clear that many worked to facilitate it, aided its coverup, and actively exploited the reaction to it. Since many of these actions involved commission of crimes, their investigation and prosecution could be instrumental in unravelling the vast crime of 9/11.

Beneficiaries of the attack included the highest officials in the New York City and Federal governments, and corporations benefiting from policies enacted by those officials.

* George W. Bush enjoyed an immediate surge in popularity and the burying of investigative reports on electoral fraud by his brother Jeb's Republican election machine in Florida. "United We Stand" slogans propagated across the nation as Bush boasted of "smoking out" the terrorists.
* Rudolph Giuliani became an instant hero by immediately appearing for photo ops as the hands-on mayor at Ground Zero, and by taking command of the situation. He was exalted as Man of the Year by Time magazine while he managed the largest evidence destruction operation in history.
* The new War on Terror would become the umbrella for whole new levels of pork, unaccountability, and corruption in the nexus of government and industry that would fight the war.
* The weapons industries prepared for a new orgy of corporate welfare, as the Pentagon budget would be further bloated. Certainly we would need billion-dollar stealth bombers to smoke the elusive Osama bin Laden out of his cave.
* Vice President Cheney's company, Halliburton, would soon be getting fat no-bid contracts to rebuild the infrastructure that American bombs would destroy in Afghanistan and Iraq.
* The owner of the World Trade Center complex would receive a $7 billion payout for the destruction of the seven buildings. Silverstein Properties had just acquired a 99-year lease on the World Trade Center, and a new insurance policy, in July of 2001. Silverstein would be ridded of those white elephants, the Twin Towers, with their obsolete office space and asbestos abatement problems.
* The Project for a New American Century got the new Pearl Harbor that it said would be needed to rapidly achieve its goals.


Not to mention, nearly every policy coming from this sham of a Gov't is driven by terror and the threat of it and the attacks from that September day.


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