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look at these lies ... the truth is the cell phone calls were all faked

look at these lies ... the truth is the cell phone calls were all faked

Families hear heroism on 9/11 calls from planes
'Overwhelmed by the unbelievable courage'
From Phil Hirschkorn
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PRINCETON, New Jersey (CNN) -- Relatives of passengers and crew aboard the four airliners hijacked on September 11, 2001, heard tapes Friday of calls from the doomed planes and said later that they were moved by heroic efforts on all the flights.

"I was overwhelmed by the unbelievable courage of the passengers and crews of all four of these flights," Deborah Burlingame, sister of one of the hijacked pilots.

She spoke after a confidential Justice Department briefing for the families held at a hotel.

"I sat there wistfully wishing that this country could be as united ... and as brave in fighting the terrorists as they were in the fierce few moments of September 11. I was very proud of them," said Burlingame.

Her brother Charles was pilot of American Airlines Flight 77, which crashed into the Pentagon.

Some family members talked with reporters after the briefing, but none would elaborate on the session specifically.

Because the government hopes to introduce the calls as evidence at the trial of alleged September 11 conspirator Zacarias Moussaoui, those who attended the briefing were required to sign a non-disclosure agreement that prohibits them from discussing the contents of the tapes or the briefings. They were not allowed to make recordings or take notes during the session.

"The one thing that the [Justice Department] made irrefutably clear to us was that to the extent we disclose any information, we are only aiding the terrorists," said Hamilton Peterson, whose father and stepmother were on United Flight 93.

But one relative, Alice Hoaglan -- whose son Mark Bingham called her from one of the flights -- recounted for reporters her final call from her son.

"'Mom, this is Mark Bingham. I just want to tell you that I love you. I am on a flight from Newark to San Francisco. There are three guys on board who have taken over the plane and they say they have a bomb. You believe me don't you, Mom? I'm calling you from the air phone.' And then we were disconnected," Hoaglan said, her voice breaking.:mj07:

She quickly added, "That's not information I got today. That's information I got at 6:44 a.m. Pacific Daylight Time [on September 11, 2001] from the lips of Mark Bingham."

There were 246 victims on the four jets hijacked by 19 terrorists who were later found to be acting on behalf of al Qaeda, the Islamic terrorist organization led by Saudi exile Osama bin Laden.

American Airlines Flight 11, a Boston-to-Los Angeles flight with 81 passengers and 11 crew on board, struck the World Trade Center north tower.

United Airlines Flight 175, a Boston-to-Los Angeles flight with 56 passengers and nine crew onboard, struck the Trade Center's south tower.

A second American plane, Flight 77, from Washington's Dulles International Airport to Los Angeles with 58 passengers and six crew onboard, crashed into the Pentagon.

A second United plane, Flight 93, from Newark to San Francisco with 37 passengers and seven crew onboard, crashed in rural Shanksville, Pennsylvania.

Nearly 150 people attended the session Friday.

CNN learned that calls from just two people -- flight attendants Betty Ong and Amy Sweeney, both on American Airlines Flight 11 -- were played during the three-hour briefing.

Other calls were summarized verbally by Justice Department prosecutors, and nearly an hour was devoted to questions from relatives and responses from prosecutors.

Peterson described the session Friday as "a wonderful although detailed and grisly presentation" that provided family members with more information about the final moments of the flights.

Earlier reports and investigations have indicated that passengers on Flight 93, after they learned of the three prior hijackings, fought the hijackers and prevented them from reaching a target in Washington -- believed to be the U.S. Capitol.

Two years ago, families of Flight 93 passengers heard a 30-minute cockpit voice recording played in a government briefing and said then that it generally confirmed that many passengers acted heroically.

After Friday's session, Peterson said heroism was not limited to that one plane.

The briefing "shows that it was not just [Flight] 93 with respect to heroism and commitment with respect to passengers and crew. There is no question there were many heroes on the flights," he said.

Sandy Dahl, widow of the pilot of Flight 93, described the mood in the briefing room as "very hard. It was a difficult time for all of us.


Another session for family members is scheduled next month in Boston, with video hookups available for families in Washington and Los Angeles.

The briefings are being conducted by federal prosecutors and FBI agents handling the case of Moussaoui, whose trial has been delayed indefinitely by a dispute over whether Moussaoui may obtain testimony from high-level al Qaeda operatives in U.S. military custody overseas. (Full story)

"Many family members who lost loved ones on one of the flights on September 11, 2001, have contacted us requesting to know what occurred in the flights before they were intentionally crashed by the hijackers," U.S. Attorney Paul McNulty wrote in an April 13 letter that invited the families to the briefing.

"Due to the extended delays in the prosecution of the Moussaoui case, we feel it is important to provide flight families with this information now, rather than wait until the case goes to trial," he wrote. "The sole purpose of this briefing is to describe for you the evidence gathered during the investigation of this case."

Burlingame said the briefing Friday "filled in more of details for us."

She said the session affected her deeply "not so much for the bare facts -- which I had steeled myself for -- but for my incredible pride at the horror of what they faced and how they went forward very, very bravely.

"Those voices will be instrumental hopefully in bringing justice to Zacarias Moussaoui," she said.

Some family members said they were passing on the opportunity to hear the tapes. Stephen Push, whose wife was killed aboard the plane.


then dewdney and the moussaoui trial proved all the cell phone calls were lies and faked or done by voice morphing.
 
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Soon, those FAKE CELL PHONE CALLS of 9-11 can actually go through!, say phone companies


'Before this new "Pico cell," it was nigh on impossible to make a call from a passenger aircraft in flight. Connection is impossible at altitudes over 8000 feet or speeds in excess of 230 mph.' --- So, anything the corporate media or the Bush regime invented about 9-11 cell phone calls is a lie. And they know it. ---


Miracles and Wonders
Cell Phones Soon Can Be Used On Airplanes - 911?


By Alan Cabal




MIRACLES AND WONDERS Last week, USA Today reported a joint effort between Qualcomm and American Airlines' to allow passengers to make cellphone calls from aircraft in flight. According to the story, the satellite-based system employs a "Pico cell" to act as a small cellular tower.

"It worked great," gushed Monte Ford, American Airline's chief information officer. "I called the office. I called my wife. I called a friend in Paris. They all heard me great, and I could hear them loud and clear."

Before this new "Pico cell," it was nigh on impossible to make a call from a passenger aircraft in flight. Connection is impossible at altitudes over 8000 feet or speeds in excess of 230 mph.

Yet despite this, [the GOVERNMENT LIE IS THAT even though the technology was unable to allow for it] passengers Todd Beamer, Mark Bingham, Jeremy Glick and Edward Felt all managed to place calls from Flight 93 on the morning of September 11. Peter Hanson, en route to Disneyland with his wife and daughter, [was unable to have] phoned his dad from Flight 175. Madeline Amy Sweeney, a flight attendant, [was unable to have] made a very dramatic call from Flight 11 as it sped to the North Tower. Barbara Olson [as well was unable to have] made two calls, collect, to her husband at his government office from Flight 77 as it made its way to the Pentagon. [This is the husband/lawyer who defended Bush's case at the Supreme Court in December 2001. What a coincidence they have there. Plus, he is on record for saying that it is OK for the US to lie to the population. Plus, his memory of the call is very hazy and the facts about it have changed--and made internally contradictory--in the serveral times he has been questioned about it. And who told you that all this occurred, well Bush and the corporate media instructed you on these lies. When it was physically impossible to do it.


Each call was initially reported as coming from a cellphone. Later, when skepticism reared its ugly head and the Grassy Knollers arrived, the narrative became fuzzy; it was suggested that $10-a-minute Airfones were involved. Olson was an easy candidate for Airfone (one doesn't call collect from a cell), but as the stories developed, Olson?and Felt?were said to have called from inside locked lavatories. No Airfone there.



In the very near future, numerous technological miracles and wonders will rise up out of the ashes of that terrible day, much the way the space program supposedly gave us Tang and Velcro. Satam Al-Suqami's indestructible passport, for one, is currently under the microscope in the Reverse Engineering Department at Area 51. My old passport was falling apart when I finally replaced it last year, just from spending 10 years in my pocket. His survived the destruction of the World Trade Center. I want one of those.



Likewise, professional bowlers could benefit from inquiries into whatever physical force brought about the collapse of WTC 7. And as a frequent flyer who finds long-term parking difficult and expensive, I'd like to know by what mechanism Mohammed Atta got to Portland, ME, where he was videotaped boarding a flight to Logan Airport in Boston. His rental car was found at Logan.



And last but not least, every suburban homeowner will want the miraculous PentaGrass. Whatever that lawn at the Pentagon is made out of, it sure is amazing stuff?it resists and repels fire, explosion, skid marks, aircraft debris, jet fuel, luggage and body parts. Shit from your neighbor's dog won't stand a chance!



Who would've thought there'd be a silver lining even in the debris cloud made that Tuesday morning?


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These faked cell phone calls are just another lie from the regime of lies that is the corporate military government of the United States. The US military regime lies entirely about the sheer physical difficult of these cell phone calls, as it is pumped as 'evidence' of 9-11 'attacks' to make pretend and to 'back up', when the US government's word is THE ONLY SOURCE of these calls existence in the first place. They invented these stories to back up their other lies that there were terror hijackings of Arabs involved on these flights--when of course the very people 'identified' by the FBI as 'suicide pilot/terrorists'...actually around 9 of the people named complained that the FBI was using their images. They were alive and well in the Middle East, according to BBC.

Actually the people whom the FBI wanted to associate with the terrorists are likely a false flag operation on U.S. soil. Some of them were actually trained and associated with U.S. military bases, and others are actually military officers associated with spy bases at Monterrey, CA and Pensacola Naval Air Base in Florida. Some even used these mlitary bases as the address on their drivers licenses.

In short, the official puppet show of a story is officially dead by this point. There is simply a lack of story for the Bush Administration to even have connecting the 'attacks' to Afghanistan, Iraq, or Iran, or whoever they next attempt to dupe the world--just like Hitler duped the world with the Reichstag fire. The U.S. puppet show is so full of holes at this point and everything has been thoroughly disproven by facts (from the demolitions in the WTCS, to the explositions inside the Pentagon, to the lack of a Boeing at the pentagon) that you can see the actual government hands directing everything. The cell phones are just another one of their lies--though I imagine if you have been following this you knew this anyway.
 

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>>>didnt bombs go off BEFORE the building was hit<<<
If you think about it, it would be critical for those behind this attack to take out the sprinkler system. (water pumps) As reported by the firemen the sprinklers were in fact not working.
 

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>>>didnt bombs go off BEFORE the building was hit<<<
If you think about it, it would be critical for those behind this attack to take out the sprinkler system. (water pumps) As reported by the firemen the sprinklers were in fact not working.
 

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good pts. mr sammo .... william rodriguez, the biggest hero of 9/11, testified to the kean commission that he heard bombs go off b4 the plane hit the tower ... funny thing, the whitewash commission didnt use a word from the day's biggest hero ... hmmm, which conspiracy is least plausible? ... im getting confused :shrug:
 

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>>>Soon, those FAKE CELL PHONE CALLS of 9-11 can actually go through!, say phone companies<<<

Funny thing.....when the neocons/internet shills realized that cell phones couldn't be made on jets once they were airborne they switched their story to air phones.

Now we know that air phones weren't on 757s in 2001........the crickets started. Followed by more and more name calling.

Seems they keep painting themselves deeper into the corner.
 

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Your hero, David Ray Griffin cites in his book instances of cell phones being used on the flights.
Specifically flight 93.

David Ray Griffin.

He admits calls were made now.

weird huh?

so is he a liar and blasphemer now too?
 

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hey gard,

how come all this researched article and sound bytes you use never comes with a date published?

Is it to throw us off and make us believe it is breaking news? And to mask the fact that just about everything you post is over 5 years old and has already been proven false?
 

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Holy shit dog boy, do you realize how fvcking dumb you are?

He's so fawkin dumb, he has YOU on his side.:mj07: :mj07: :mj07:

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the tied is turning, ptgourd is backing down from debate.

Victory is close.

Just want to thank IO, Jack, SixFive, Marine , me, jabberwocky, gardenw, and all the conspiracy busters that have chimed in.

Way to go fellows ! They have tasted defeat.

Just tap out Scooter.....you're over your cute little head. Nothing but bird pictures and cartoons coming from your dumb ass.
 

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An excerpt from an authentic interview of our supposed enemy, criminal mastermind and arch-villain Usama bin Laden himself (as opposed to the fake tapes released by the CIA)?

Source: Ummat, Urdu-language daily newspaper based in Karachi, Pakistan - Friday, 28 September 2001 - pages 1, 7.
Source: BBC Monitoring Service. - Source: http://www.khilafah.com/1421/category.php?DocumentID=2392&TagID=2

I have already said that I am not involved in the 11 September attacks in the United States? I had no knowledge of these attacks, nor do I consider the killing of innocent women, children and other humans as an appreciable act.

Islam strictly forbids causing harm to innocent women, children and other people. Such a practice is forbidden even in the course of a battle. It is the United States, which is perpetrating every maltreatment on women, children and common people of other faiths, particularly the followers of Islam?

America does not want to see anyone equal to it. It expects slavery from others. Therefore, other countries are either its slaves or subordinates.Whoever committed the act of 11 September are not the friends of the American people. I have already said that we are against the American system, not against its people, whereas in these attacks, the common American people have been killed

The United States should try to trace the perpetrators of these attacks within itself; the people who are a part of the U.S. system╜those who are working for some other system; persons who want to make the present century as a century of conflict between Islam and Christianity
They can be anyone, from Russia to Israel and from India to Serbia

Then there are intelligence agencies in the U.S., which require billions of dollars worth of funds from the Congress and the government every year. This [funding issue] was not a big problem till the existence of the former Soviet Union but after that the budget of these agencies has been in danger. They needed an enemy

You see, the Bush Administration approved a budget of 40 billion dollars. Where will this huge amount go? It will be provided to the same agencies, which need huge funds and want to exert their importance. Now they will spend the money for their expansion and for increasing their importance. I will give you an example. Drug smugglers from all over the world are in contact with the U.S. secret agencies. These agencies do not want to eradicate narcotics cultivation and trafficking because their importance will be diminished. The people in the U.S. Drug Enforcement Department are encouraging drug trade so that they could show performance and get millions of dollars worth of budget. General Noriega was made a drug baron by the CIA and, in need, he was made a scapegoat?

In the same way, whether it is President Bush or any other U.S. President, they cannot bring Israel to justice for its human rights abuses or to hold it accountable for such crimes. What is this? Is it not that there exists a government within the government in the United Sates? That secret government must be asked as to who carried out the attacks

I have already said that we are not hostile to the United States. We are against the [U.S. Government] system, which makes other nations slaves of the United States, or forces them to mortgage their political and economic freedom. This system is totally in control of the American-Jews, whose first priority is Israel, not the United States. It is clear that the American people are themselves the slaves of the Jews and are forced to live according to the principles and laws laid by them. So, the punishment should reach Israel. In fact, it is Israel, which is giving a blood bath to innocent Muslims and the U.S. is not uttering a single word

The Western media is unleashing such a baseless propaganda, which makes us surprise but it reflects on what is in their hearts and gradually they themselves become captive of this propaganda. They become afraid of it and begin to cause harm to themselves. Terror is the most dreaded weapon in modern age and the Western media is mercilessly using it against its own people. It can add fear and helplessness in the psyche of the people of Europe and the United States. It means that what the enemies of the United States cannot do, its media is doing that. You can understand as to what will be the performance of the nation in a war, which suffers from fear and helplessness?

- Usama bin Laden
 

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Minister of Justice, West Germany, Horst Ehmke, PhD:

?Terrorists could not have carried out such an operation with four hijacked planes without the support of a secret service.?

State Secretary, Federal Ministry of Defense, West Germany, Andreas von Buelow, PhD:

?The official story is so inadequate and far-fetched that there must be another one?This is unthinkable, without years-long support from secret apparatuses of the state and industry.?

President of Italy, Francesco Cossiga:

?[9/11] could not be accomplished without infiltrations in the radar and flight security personnel.?

General Leonid Ivashov, Chief of Staff, Russian armed forces, Ministry of Defense:

?Only secret services and their current chiefs - or those retired but still having influence inside the state organizations - have the ability to plan, organize and conduct an operation [9/11] of such magnitude?Osama bin Laden and ?Al Qaeda? cannot be the organizers nor the performers of the September 11 attacks. They do not have the necessary organization, resources or leaders.?
 

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The Five Dancing Israelis Arrested On 9-11

As the world watched in disbelief and asked the question...

...Mossad operatives were seen dancing with joy.

A Mossad surveillance team made quite a public spectacle of themselves on 9-11.
The New York Times reported Thursday that a group of five men had set up video cameras aimed at the Twin Towers prior to the attack on Tuesday, and were seen congratulating one another afterwards. (1)

Police received several calls from angry New Jersey residents claiming "middle-eastern" men with a white van were videotaping the disaster with shouts of joy and mockery. (2)

"They were like happy, you know ? They didn't look shocked to me" said a witness. (3)
[T]hey were seen by New Jersey residents on Sept. 11 making fun of the World Trade Center ruins and going to extreme lengths to photograph themselves in front of the wreckage. (4)

Witnesses saw them jumping for joy in Liberty State Park after the initial impact (5). Later on, other witnesses saw them celebrating on a roof in Weehawken, and still more witnesses later saw them celebrating with high fives in a Jersey City parking lot. (6)

"It looked like they're hooked in with this. It looked like they knew what was going to happen when they were at Liberty State Park." (7)
 

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How did they know there would be an event to document on 9/11?

It doesn't take Sherlock Holmes to connect the dots of the dancing Israeli Mossad agents - here's the most logical scenario:

1. The Israeli "movers" cheered the 9-11 attacks to celebrate the successful accomplishment of the greatest spy operation ever pulled off in history.

2. One of them, or an accomplice, then calls a 9-1-1 police dispatcher to report Palestinian bomb-makers in a white van headed for the Holland Tunnel.

3. Having thus pre-framed the Palestinians with this phone call, the Israeli bombers then head for the George Washington Bridge instead, where they will drop off their time-bomb van and escape with Urban Moving accomplices.

4. But the police react very wisely and proactively by closing off ALL bridges and tunnels instead of just the Holland Tunnel. This move inadvertently foils the Israelis' misdirection play and leads to their own capture and 40 day torture.

5. To cover up this story, the U.S. Justice Department rounds up over 1000 Arabs for minor immigration violations and places them in New York area jails. The Israelis therefore become less conspicuous as the government and media can now claim that the Israelis were just immigration violators caught in the same dragnet as many other Arabs.

6. After several months, FBI and Justice Department "higher-ups" are able to gradually push aside the local FBI agents and free the Israelis quietly.

Osama bin Laden was immediately blamed for the 9/11 attacks even though he had no previous record of doing anything on this scale. Immediately after the Flight 11 hit World Trade Center 1
CIA Director George Tenet said "You know, this has bin Laden's fingerprints all over it." (27)

The compliant mainstream media completely ignored the Israeli connection. Immediately following the 9-11 attacks the media was filled with stories linking the attacks to bin Laden. TV talking-heads, "experts", and scribblers of every stripe spoon-fed a gullible American public a steady diet of the most outrageous propaganda imaginable.

We were told that the reason bin Laden attacked the USA was because he hates our "freedom" and "democracy". The Muslims were "medieval" and they wanted to destroy us because they envied our wealth, were still bitter about the Crusades, and were offended by Britney Spears shaking her tits and ass all over the place!

But bin Laden strongly denied any role in the attacks and suggested that Zionists orchestrated the 9-11 attacks. The BBC published bin Laden's statement of denial in which he said:

"I was not involved in the September 11 attacks in the United States nor did I have knowledge of the attacks. There exists a government within a government within the United States. The United States should try to trace the perpetrators of these attacks within itself; to the people who want to make the present century a century of conflict between Islam and Christianity. That secret government must be asked as to who carried out the attacks. ... The American system is totally in control of the Jews, whose first priority is Israel, not the United States." (28)

You never heard that quote on your nightly newscast did you?

[A] number of intelligence officials have raised questions about Osama bin Laden's capabilities. "This guy sits in a cave in Afghanistan and he's running this operation?" one C.I.A. official asked. "It's so huge. He couldn't have done it alone." A senior military officer told me that because of the visas and other documentation needed to infiltrate team members into the United States a major foreign intelligence service might also have been involved. (29)

Bin Laden is not named as the perpetrator of 9/11 by the FBI:

When asked why there is no mention of 9/11 on Bin Laden?s Most Wanted web page (30), [Rex Tomb, Chief of Investigative Publicity for the FBI] said, ?The reason why 9/11 is not mentioned on Usama Bin Laden?s Most Wanted page is because the FBI has no hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11.? (31)

To date, the only shred of ?evidence? to be uncovered against bin Laden is a barely audible fuzzy amateur video that the Pentagon just happened to find "lying around" in Afghanistan. How very convenient, and how very fake. (32)

There is no evidence, be it hard or circumstantial, to link the Al Qaeda "terrorist network" to these acts of terror, but there is a mountain of evidence, both hard and circumstantial, which suggests that Zionists have been very busy framing Arabs for terror plots against America.
 

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mahoney,

great stuff ... the dancing israelis is perfect story to show mossad involvement tho the doubters again never speak to them bc they dont even know who they are ....



agent,

i about died seeing the confederate put jabber in gray colors too :mj07:



mr sammo,

more damning evidence on the flopping from cells to airphnes that didnt exist the doubters never address ... seems like lotsa stuff they cant explain so they pretend like its never asked or in print in this thread:00hour
 

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judge i dont assume to know exactly what happened that day, but i dont believe any hijackers ever stepped on those planes and the dupes were piloted by remote ...
I?ll get back to this one.
pt1gard said:
now do you believe that satam's passport fluttered down and was picked up and handed to a cop a few blocks from the wtcs?
Like you, I don?t know but will agree that it seems odd.
pt1gard said:
what are your feelings on the Babs olson phone calls that the fbi has admitted never happened but were a huge part of the official story?
I am not concerned about this story. It does however appear to have been a misguided effort on someone?s part to humanize the tragedy.
pt1gard said:
do you believe planes can evoporate like the gov. insisted happened 2xs that day?
While I am a structural engineer, I am no expert on how an aircraft is supposed to behave upon impact but it does not seem unusual to me that a plane fully loaded with fuel would disintegrate when striking the ground at full speed.
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please answer my 3 questions as I showed you the same respect ... i have gone on record as saying none of the crash sites IMO were hit by 11, 77, 93 or 175 ...
Back to your quote at the top of my post. You state there that you believe that ?the dupes were piloted by remote? yet in this portion of your post you state that you believe that none of the four flights actually crashed at the sites. Which is it or you confusing yourself?

I find it hard to believe that any rational person would truly believe that the scenes of the planes that were captured by numerous photographers crashing into the WTC towers, never happened. Please consider how broad of a conspiracy would it have to be to have simulated those crashes and coordinated all of the eyewitnesses to the tragedy. I tell you what, David Copperfield ain?t got shit on those magicians!
 

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i didnt say NO planes crashed there, I just dont believe that 11, 77, 93 nor 175 crashed where the gov. said they did .. if they did why cant they produce one of hundreds of missing parts that serial #s would confirm they match up ... why cant the pentagon show us 1 moving film that would prove a 767 hit?


have you done much research into the actual cnn footage and other major media outlets provided that day? if not go on youtube and start punching in a couple hours worth of that day in live time scenes ... its amazing how things got doctored ... ive studied it for hundreds of hours and even people much more versed than i, ones like mr sammo, would have hard time putting finger on all the lies, deception and trickery the cointelpro have spun on the wtc crime scene regarding the tapes ... please look into this and judge for yourself, its a fascinating part of the whole story, bc you will see clear evidence things got played with in many instances ...


thanx for replying, i know you dont believe in any of what i have come to believe but i enjoy discussing it with anyone who is civil :)

take care
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but but but...
if the video clips being shown on the tv that morning were doctored..... that means that the 50 man conspiracy thesis that you supported is shot out of the water.

Cameraman and news anchors were not listed on that <50 person list.
Looks like another plate of shit you threw on the wall has not stuck.
 

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I find it hard to believe that any rational person would truly believe that the scenes of the planes that were captured by numerous photographers crashing into the WTC towers, never happened. Please consider how broad of a conspiracy would it have to be to have simulated those crashes and coordinated all of the eyewitnesses to the tragedy. I tell you what, David Copperfield ain?t got shit on those magicians!

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I think you probably figured out that pt1gourd is not a rational person.

This has been asked many times of the tin foil heads and they of course have not answers.

It was remote controlled planes , videod by goverment cameramen.....

:shrug: :shrug:
 

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but but but...
if the video clips being shown on the tv that morning were doctored..... that means that the 50 man conspiracy thesis that you supported is shot out of the water.

Cameraman and news anchors were not listed on that <50 person list.
Looks like another plate of shit you threw on the wall has not stuck.
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yeh we can turn that into thousands that were now part of having to keep their mouths shut.

its patently rediculous to even consider, yet he goes on and on.
 
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