A serious question about Units

[TDP]

I have been betting on games since 1981. I see various posts with varying units. I understand 2 and 3 unit bets, but could some one who uses a unit system tell me how you bet a 10, 20, 40 or any big number unit game?

If your bankroll represents 100 units, how can you bet this much without eventually losing your money? I am not trying to be smart, I just do not understand. Can those of you who rate your games high units please explain how much of your bankroll the number you put on your units represents.

If it is a 40 unit play are you saying that you are betting 40% of your bankroll. I would like to know.

 

[EagleGreen]

TDP,

I agree with your assessment. I have been playing since 1989 when I was 15 years old and have never wagered more than 1500 on a single game and that was "once upon a time". In any event on this site I post 2* - 5 * units which to me equates to a $220 bet to a $550 bet. I do on occasion play a REV w/Action however I only post single games in unit format. 40 units? Don't know. Some of those outrageous cappers on TV (Brandon Lang etc) do this 40 dime 50 dime etc which to me is ridiculous! They can go and lose 9 plays in a row at 5 units and throw one big 50 Unit play out there and say great week up 5 dimes.....JOKE! JOKE! Anyway theres my 1.5 cents of input.

 

[TheSportsPredictor]

I have been betting on games since 1981. I see various posts with varying units. I understand 2 and 3 unit bets, but could some one who uses a unit system tell me how you bet a 10, 20, 40 or any big number unit game?

If your bankroll represents 100 units, how can you bet this much without eventually losing your money? I am not trying to be smart, I just do not understand. Can those of you who rate your games high units please explain how much of your bankroll the number you put on your units represents.

If it is a 40 unit play are you saying that you are betting 40% of your bankroll. I would like to know.

I always assume the unit is X and if it would be a 40-unit play (which is total BS, if someone says they are playing this they are a liar, a fool, or a scammer), then it would be 40X -- not a % of your bankroll.

So if your unit of bet is $20, then 40X would be $800.

Now, I have read cappers who recommend that your base bet be 2-3% of your total bankroll. So if you have 1K, then you're betting $20 a game as your one-unit plays. Then you can bet a bit more as your one-unit play if you bankroll goes up, a bit less if it goes down, since your one-unit play is defined as 2% of your bankroll.

In this case it would be incredibly stupid to go 40 units, b/c then you're betting 80% of your bankroll. Maybe a four- to five-unit play would be your max under this system.

 

[TDP]

EagleGreen,

I appreciate your reply and respect your answer. I learned the hard way as most of us had too what those guys on TV are about many years ago. Having said that, I am better for the experience because they taught me what not to do and that outlandish promises are to be taken with a grain of salt.

I always play my own picks that I cap, but do look in on various people from various places that I respect to get an idea of what the thought process is any given day. I look at your posts and respect your opinion. Best of luck to you...

 

[EagleGreen]

Thanks TDP!

A few things to know about me and my posts is that I play everything I post, I look at certain angles which I value more than statistics in most instances, and I look for "dogs" that can win the game out right - this works specifically well in CBB and CFB and home dogs are HUGE because college kids traveling becomes a grind especially late in the season.

Funny, a few years ago I got out of the scene all together ( I SUCK at NFL Capping and it really killed me one year) and decided to climb back into playing CBB after the Super Bowl ended. I played flat $220 a game(no more no less) and on average 1-5 plays a night. I was playing with a guy on the street in Roxborough and on the season I won slightly over $22K which gives you a little idea of my winning % on the CBB season. I had 1 losing week the whole season and went with a "system" that back then was as solid is it gets. One of the angles I used would be to bet against a team who was playing their 3rd road game in a row in 7 days or less time frame. At the time the system hit at over 72.5% from what I monitored and I cleaned up. They have changed the schedule a lot over the years that this specific instance doesn't happen to often and the angle only applied to travel out of state. So like TENN playing MIDTENN, TENNST, and TENNCHATT wouldn't fit the angle.

Also, I am a huge fan of the 1st 2 rnds of the 65 team tourney because dogs win and they win Out right. You can clean up with the points and get good pay backs on the ML.

Anyway, I am a little disappointed this year in my CBB capping because at one point I was up 47 units and have slipped back to + 26 units! My goal still including the tournament is to hit +100 units so "STAY TUNED" and as always GL!

 

[TouchdownJesus]

I think there are a few "high rollers" on this site and I'm not here to call anyone specific out. I just think a lot of times people are trying to keep up with the Joneses or don't want to talk about what they might think are bets that are too low.

My "units" are usually $20 and if I get cold, I may reduce it to $10. I won't bet less than $10 on anything other than a parlay (and my site minimum is $5).

In the past I bet significantly bigger and it got to be where I couldn't afford the losing streaks and it took all the fun out of it.

This isn't a job for me...thank goodness...I have ups and downs and love the action along with the chance to win some extra cash. In the long run, sometimes the losses are almost as fun as the wins. Ok, not really, but again the action is fun and everyone has stories about bad beats and lucky wins, etc.

I usually won't go higher than $100 these days, so that would be 5 units, and even that is rare. Just all depends on several factors. Not sure that I answered much here, but the main thing is that I think most of us are betting less than 100 per game, maybe much less, and theres nothing wrong with that.

 

[TDP]

TheSportsPredictor and Touchdownjesus respectively...Thanks for your insights as I am always curious and learning. No matter how long I do this I will never quit listening to people who are willing to share their knowledge. A close friend told me a long time ago that the one thing that you can steal from someone legally and that they are usually happy to give you is their knowledge.

I may not always agree with others, but I am wise enough to know that I am not always right and that there are many more than one way of doing things...Thanks for the insight and BEST OF LIFE TO YOU AND YOUR FAMILIES...P.S.EagleGreen, I had to laugh when I read your comment on the first two rounds of the NCAA tournament. I play straight units and rarely moneylines if I can get points, but that is the biggest instance in all of sports that the dogs really bark...Thanks and best of luck to all.

 

[CartersCubs]

also some people prefer a unit system where 1unit=$1 so when people say 40units it could seriously be anything. If they actually are smart they will post unit value in their signature

 

[Theboundbook]

If I do use the word 'unit(s)' on my posts they represent 100.00... I have seen others where their 40 unit play is what a 4 unit play is to me...

I agree with the statement though of people winning 5k on one game and saying they are killing it this week.

If you look at the length of time people have been posting here, the one's that I have been here 3+ years obviously have been doing well enough to fare through the winning and the losing streaks; especially those who bet almost every day and treat it as a 'second job' and are hitting 60%+ year in and year out I have found are the one's I want to see posting and read...

 

[Smitty]

the way i look at it, 1 unit is your minimum play. for some, that's $10, for some it's $50, for some it's $100. generally speaking, the highest play i'll make is 3 units. if i absolutely love a play, i might go 5 units. 2 ways to look at the guys who post "40 unit" plays. 1) the lowest they play is 10 units, so a 40-unit play is really a 4-unit play for anybody else. they just want to sound important, like the touts. 2) they are completely full of it.

i really don't think it matters what that 1 unit equals to each person. it shouldn't matter. we all bet different amounts, and there's nothing wrong with that. we all have different bankrolls. if we're keeping an honest record of our 'units', then that accurately reflects how you're doing overall.

just my 2? (2? = 1 unit)

 

[CartersCubs]

I seriously don't understand how people can bet almost every day. If anyone on here does that and hits 60% year in and out they normally go to pay (aka TEEMO).

 

[Theboundbook]

I seriously don't understand how people can bet almost every day. If anyone on here does that and hits 60% year in and out they normally go to pay (aka TEEMO).

There are lots of us here.... I know of 8 right off the top of my head without blinking that post here DAILY!

 

[CartersCubs]

that's just sick. I don't have the stomach for that at all. Maybe that decision making comes with time. With this being my first year in this I make money 1 way and 1 way only: pick my spots and make it count.

 

[Theboundbook]

that's just sick. I don't have the stomach for that at all. Maybe that decision making comes with time. With this being my first year in this I make money 1 way and 1 way only: pick my spots and make it count.

And that is a VERY GOOD STRATEGY..... Generally better than day in and day out grind.... But like poker players, you can play in a few tourneys each mos and pick your spots and cash, or grind it out every day and make your money consistently, but generally not in huge lumps at one time.

 

[CartersCubs]

ok ok ya that makes plenty of sense. well thanks for the insight TBB, and as always good luck this CBB season!